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    Quote Originally Posted by Treaty_of_Batum View Post
    What's your guess on how much he will get offered?
    MLE-ish. I don't see why many teams would eat into their salary cap space for a guy who seemed all but worthless a couple of months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed O View Post
    MLE-ish. I don't see why many teams would eat into their salary cap space for a guy who seemed all but worthless a couple of months ago.

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    You may be right. Which then begs the question--if the best offer Hickson receives is MLE-ish, does he take it (hell, it IS $25M guaranteed), or does he accept the QO and play one more year here alongside Aldridge with the assumption that he can play himself into a much bigger payday next summer?

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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed O View Post
    MLE-ish. I don't see why many teams would eat into their salary cap space for a guy who seemed all but worthless a couple of months ago.

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    Again, I'd argue his time in Sacto, or his "worthless" performance, was more an aberration than the mean. Simple as that. The guy was improving every year, and he's still 23.

    Hell, I don't have to argue. This isn't opinion. It's based on facts of his historical stats (aside from a few minor decreases in stats last season, but several still improved). So, is a half-season enough to call Hickson "worthless"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLAZINGGIANTS View Post
    Again, I'd argue his time in Sacto, or his "worthless" performance, was more an aberration than the mean. Simple as that. The guy was improving every year, and he's still 23.
    What did other teams give up to get him?

    His track record before arriving in Sacramento has not changed, and yet no team offered money or a second rounder or anything to acquire him. EVEN IF Sacramento made a mistake by waiving him (and they clearly did), that doesn't change that it appears that no team was that interested in acquiring him from them earlier in the year.

    Hell, I don't have to argue. This isn't opinion. It's based on facts of his historical stats (aside from a few minor decreases in stats last season, but several still improved). So, is a half-season enough to call Hickson "worthless"?
    I am not saying what you seem to think I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PtldPlatypus View Post
    You may be right. Which then begs the question--if the best offer Hickson receives is MLE-ish, does he take it (hell, it IS $25M guaranteed), or does he accept the QO and play one more year here alongside Aldridge with the assumption that he can play himself into a much bigger payday next summer?
    I dunno... I would guess that a guy might think it smarter to take the money when he can. He learned how easily the bottom can fall out of a situation when he was waived by Sacramento.

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    I'm glad he wants to stay in PDX because he's the future

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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    Aldridge is done thus Hickson is the future

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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    On another note, the guys on 1080 said Aldridge's condition could possibly be degenerative.

    Not that they have inside information or anything, just that it's not out of the realm of possibility.

    They were they first ones saying Roy was done after learning of his injuries.

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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    i think he will get something like 4/20ish
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    i think he will get something like 4/20ish
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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    or like 3/15 with a PO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
    3/25 or 4/32.
    I'll take "what is Crawford likely to shoot over the next couple of games" for $500, Alex.

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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    A young player that hasn't consistently proven anything doesn't score an $8M per contract, especially when that player may not have a true position.

    With the new rules on the way I can't see many teams willing to offer much more than the full MLE.

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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    Quote Originally Posted by 3RA1N1AC View Post
    or like 3/15 with a PO
    I think that's a pretty good guess. I'll say 4 years, 26 million with a PO on the 4th year.

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    I would be happy with him signing a 4 year deal with a 3.25 , 3.85 , 4.25, 4.75 million increment or something like that.
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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyToy View Post
    On another note, the guys on 1080 said Aldridge's condition could possibly be degenerative.

    Not that they have inside information or anything, just that it's not out of the realm of possibility.

    They were they first ones saying Roy was done after learning of his injuries.
    every injury "could" be degenerative that isn't a clean break.

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    Default Re: Hickson wants to stay in PDX

    A torn labrum in his hip degenerative? ... Well, I guess if he loses blood supply post-op that's possible, but it's not like he's suffering necrosis right now. Don't get me wrong it's not "good," but this injury/surgery shouldn't have a ton of long-term impact during his playing career -- when he's 50 or 60 that might be a different story.
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