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    Default John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

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    For the past three decades, John Thompson has broken down film, probed for weaknesses and drawn up schemes. The 56-year-old has run the defense at, among other places, five different SEC programs. The guy has coached against national championship teams that have been pass-heavy and also teams that have relied primarily on the run to win national titles. Last Saturday night, Thompson was tasked with trying to get the Arkansas State Red Wolves, a team that won 10 games in 2011, to slow down the Oregon Ducks.

    The game kicked off at 7:30 PT and within 15 minutes, it unfolded in a disastrous manner for Thompson. The Ducks proceeded to score touchdowns on their first seven drives. None of those drives took longer than 2:54 seconds. By midway through the second quarter, Thompson's team trailed 50-3.

    Football coaches, especially ones in their mid-50s, seldom are awestruck. But that word, perhaps better than any other, summed up Thompson's mindset after what he witnessed Saturday night in the Pacific Northwest.

    “That is, by far, the fastest team I have ever, ever, EV-VER seen,” Thompson said Tuesday night. "It is unbelievable.”

    The Ducks went on to win 57-34 and amassed 605 total yards of offense, but in truth, Chip Kelly had throttled things down so much by midway through the second quarter, stats don't illustrate much of an accurate picture of the kind of display Oregon put on. If Kelly felt so inclined the Ducks would've scored over 100 points on the defending Sun Belt champs in Week One.

    “We had guys there in the right spot and we still ended up two steps behind ‘em,” Thompson said. “Things just happened so fast.”

    Thompson was well-versed in the Ducks' speed. This off-season, he'd studied hundreds of hours of film of an offense that averaged over 46 points per game last year. He saw clips of De'Anthony Thomas averaging over 77 yards a carry in the Rose Bowl. Saw video of Oregon's spring game where the new starting QB Marcus Mariota broke off an 82-yard TD run right through the Ducks D. Saw clip after clip of Kenjon Barner gashing defenses.

    “We weren't gonna play a snap of man,” he said. Instead, the Red Wolves went with some combo coverage and also kept a man over the top. “We tried to blitz ‘em. They ate us up. We tried zone pressures. They got us with that too.”

    They preached sure tackling and taking good angles. Problem is, that kind of geometry can't be replicated from a board. Reliable, heady players could diagnose things but couldn't get near making the play because they'd never seen the pace or the speed until they were caught up in the whirlwind.

    The Ducks' headliners: Thomas and Mariota, were even better than advertised. Thompson struggled for a comparison to fit the 5-9, 176-pound sophomore. Former Florida great Percy Harvin, a bigger, thicker player with a great first step, was the closest Thompson could think of, but even that didn't seem to apt. “Thomas has such great moves and has so much pure speed. He's not like Dexter (McCluster), who was more of a jitterbug type. He's a one-cut and go guy. Wow!”

    The real revelation, though, proved to be Mariota, the 6-4, 211-pound Hawaiian, who went 18-of-22 for 200 yards and three TD passes. “I thought he'd be more run than throw, but he's got a very live arm and is really, really accurate and has great touch. I was so impressed with him.”

    Of course, if you focus too much on those two, then Kenjon Barner or freshman running back Byron Marshall may get you. Or Josh Huff. Or . . .

    As flashy as the Ducks' personnel and shiny uniforms are, their playbook was actually not fancy. Like many teams, they run the inside zone, they run the stretch play, run the power, throw some screens and are very adept at running boots and nakeds thanks to their dynamic young QB. “It's West Coast concepts and some spot routes, but they're so good at play-action and their O-line does a good job of selling play-action, and when they run the climb routes, they just get on you so fast and find the spaces between the linebacker and the safeties.”

    In all, the Ducks had six different ball-carries with at least a 24-yard gain. They had 11 different receivers with a reception of 10 yards or longer. They were 10-of-19 on third downs and four-of-five on fourth downs. “You've gotta keep great leverage on them, and that's what we didn't do,” Thompson said.

    Two seasons ago, Oregon came within a last-second field goal of beating Auburn for the BCS national title. Last year, the Ducks were bottled up by LSU, 40-27, in the opener. Thompson, though, pointed out that in that game, the Ducks dropped some balls, had some fumbles and Duck quarterback Darron Thomas missed quite a few open receivers. “Then,” he says, “LSU's swagger took over. But this kid (Mariota) is a much, much better thrower.

    “I think they're gonna win it all,” Thompson predicted. “I just don't see people being able to deal with their speed.”
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    Default Re: John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

    Well, here's hoping he's right, but it is a long season.

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    Default Re: John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

    the ducks with a deadly passer just might be unbeatable
    she appears composed, so she is, I suppose

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    Default Re: John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

    Couple thoughts.... Kyle Long in about a month will give Mariota a ton of new found protection.... this kid is a freakish animal of O Line nightmares.... Look for Brown and Colt to wear out defenses at the TE position..... these guys are a load to bring down..... I also expect AA to get better in a hurry and by USC, he'll be pushing Barkley's Oline right into him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLAZER PROPHET View Post
    Well, here's hoping he's right, but it is a long season.
    I thought you'd say that Thompson should take off the Duck homer glasses

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    Default Re: John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

    Oh yeah...... Can't wait to see Deforest Buckner destroy folks in about a month too! This kid is the next Dion Jordan! Book it!

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    Default Re: John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

    I can't wait to see how we do against better teams. I think we have a very good shot at the Natty, barring a ton of injuries.

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    A young QB and 5 soup cans to start couldn't be better.... By USC Marcus will have his own groove and something tells me Marshall and Addison will be big time threats to go along with DAT, Barner and Kelly.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Pepper View Post
    A young QB and 5 soup cans to start couldn't be better.... By USC Marcus will have his own groove and something tells me Marshall and Addison will be big time threats to go along with DAT, Barner and Kelly.....
    That USC game is going to be epic! I can't wait for our revenge.

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    Default Re: John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

    The Duck's running game, so long as they stay healthy, will just be unstoppable. But any team can prepare to stop the run and disrespect the pass.

    Mariota will evolve into a phenomenal passer and can torch secondaries with his arm if given the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Pepper View Post
    Oh yeah...... Can't wait to see Deforest Buckner destroy folks in about a month too! This kid is the next Dion Jordan! Book it!
    The main problem with this happening is they're playing DB at Strong Side DE not Dion's Drop End spot. Tony Washington is Dion's backup.

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    Default Re: John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

    For now! Dion 6'7 240, Deforest 6'7 230..... I think once Dion goes to the pros and Buckner gets a year under his belt he will slide over.... We'll see...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Pepper View Post
    For now! Dion 6'7 240, Deforest 6'7 230..... I think once Dion goes to the pros and Buckner gets a year under his belt he will slide over.... We'll see...
    The two may share the same size, but after that there arent as many similarities. Check out Dion Jordan's 40 coming in as a recruit. 4.6 Seconds And Deforest Buckner's 40 as a recruit: 5.04 Seconds a whole half second almost. Not to say that Deforest is slow.. but his speed might not project as much to a Drop End as you may think. Jordan had his speed and grew into the size he is. Deforest was already bigger and slower as a HS kid, and still will fill out some probably.

    If you are looking for similar Speed coming out of High School and size to add to it, your best bet might be to argue for Christian French being the drop end of the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Pepper View Post
    For now! Dion 6'7 240, Deforest 6'7 230..... I think once Dion goes to the pros and Buckner gets a year under his belt he will slide over.... We'll see...
    nice theory.... but DB has bulked up considerably

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    Default Re: John Thompson says Ducks are gonna "Win it all"

    Buckner gained 30+ pounds in a year? What are they feeding this kid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Pepper View Post
    Buckner gained 30+ pounds in a year? What are they feeding this kid?
    James Harris + Coach Radcliffe + Student Athlete Development - Nutrition =

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Pepper View Post
    Buckner gained 30+ pounds in a year? What are they feeding this kid?
    if you follow recruiting & college football for a while you'll notice that 20-30 pound swings in weight (up or down) are pretty common for the Lineman. In fact, I recall Ricky Heimuli gained 40 pounds from his Sr year in HS to his Freshman year. Through diet & training, Oregon helps players sculpt their bodies to be optimal for where they plan to play. Apparently DB is focused on bulk more then speed, which is echoed in his listing as a Strong Side DE in the depth chart

    http://web.nmsu.edu/~ogden/oregon/depth2012.htm

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    Well I played college football and 30+ pounds in less then a year is an effort if done safely and you're not adding needless water weight.... that's a ton of muscle to put on...

    BTW- he was listed 230 spring of last year... so that's 30+ in under six months....

    Bulk weight always concerns me cause if not maintained in the offseason if can easliy turn to fat... I don't want Buckner turning into a 6'7 fatty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Pepper View Post
    he was listed 230 spring of last year... so that's 30+ in under six months....
    really? I never saw a list of the Spring Weights or noticed them updated from the previous fall... link please

    it seems especially unlikely that Buckner's weight would have been taken & updated since he was still back in Hawaii attending HS

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