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    Default Update: Lloyd Irvin breaks silence, but does he say anything, really?



    This was never going to be an easy story to keep under wraps.

    Lloyd Irvin, one of the most prominent Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for MMA (no-gi) teachers in the United States, coach of UFC Bantamweight Champion Dominick Cruz, Brandon Vera, Phil Davis, Mike Easton, with nearly two dozen affiliate schools across the US and in Canada, was accused of rape nearly 25-years ago.

    This story has emerged as a result of an incident on New Year's Eve in Fairfax, VA. Two of Lloyd Irvin's students, Matthew Maldonado (26) and Nicholas Schultz (21), ran into one of their female training partners from an affiliate school at a nightclub. Deeming her too drunk to drive, the two men offered to escort her to the home of an instructor nearby. Instead, they lured her to the St. Matthews Parking Center and repeatedly raped and bashed her. They were caught on security camera doing so, allowing police to release these details. They left the young woman on the concrete where she cried for help until someone came to her aid some time later.

    The crime has dredged up a prior incident in Lloyd Irvin's past. In 1989, Irvin and several other men were involved in a gang rape. An under-aged (17 y.o.) Hampton University student had drinks with some college aged men and agreed to come up to their apartment. She alleged that two men, Terrence C. Gatling and Lloyd E. Irvin Jr., held her down on a bed and sexually assaulted and beat her, with at least five more men taking turns raping and sodomizing her afterward.

    The case eventually found two of the seven men identified guilty of rape, one (Gatling) guilty of forced oral copulation, and one (Irvin) not guilty. Irvin's defence was that although he wanted to have sex with the teenager, and she was a willing participant (a "freak"), he was impotent and thus unable to do so. Though there is a remote chance that the Lloyd E. Irvin Jr. (20) in question is not the Lloyd E. Irvin Jr. (former Boise State student, 20 years old at the time of the incident) we know from Team Lloyd Irvin, especially since Irvin has refused to comment on this in recent weeks, it seems more likely than not it is him.

    Sadly, the story gets more sordid from this point.

    Now that this old story has been brought back up, Irvin's students and associates are under the microscope.

    Irvin's combat sambo instructor, for one, has an even more dubious past. He forced his adopted sons (minors) to have sex with him and with each other, all of which he videotaped. He was later convicted.

    Phil Proctor, a Lloyd Irvin black belt and the head instructor at TLI affiliate school (Wrightson BJJ in Maryland) came out in defence of Irvin, calling the 1989 rape victim "a dirty whore" who "got to feeling guilty". Proctor has since had a torrent of criticism come his way.

    Irvin's top BJJ prospect Keenan Cornelius is being pressured by his family to leave TLI. In response, Lloyd Irvin black belt Marcos Avellan, responding to Facebook posts made by Keenan's sister Chloe urging him to move on, criticized Cornelius's family and his upbringing, suggesting that TLI had been a better family to him than his own, and that Irvin's past should remain undisturbed.

    TLI's and Lloyd Irvin's personal Facebook pages have been inundated with questions and comments regarding both cases. So far Irvin or someone from his business has been cutting and deleting anything pertaining to either case and threads on MMA.TV have been deleted as well. Damage control.

    And we're still not done.

    Coincidentally, with his students accused of rape and his own history brought to light, Lloyd Irvin has been offering rape prevention seminars. In fact, Lloyd Irvin bought the domain name LloydIrvinRape.com in order to direct web traffic to his seminars and away from the story of the 2013 or 1989 rape cases involving him and his students. Yikes. This is profiteering at it's lowest. I wonder how women who sign up for those classes would feel if they knew Irvin and some of his students had been implicated in rape cases?

    Probably the worst thing about all of this is that it is snowballing while Lloyd Irvin himself refuses to comment. According to Avellan, Irvin believes his "not guilty" verdict in court speaks for itself. What it seems to speak to is that he was a willing participant in morally deplorable behaviour who got off on a technicality, despite being directly accused of rape by the victim.

    One more caveat--the victim claims that Irvin told her during the rape to take it in stride and be a soldier. Irvin's Combat Gold Club refers to it's members as Soldiers of Submission. Takes on a whole new meaning doesn't it?


    Sources: bloodyelbow.com, MMA.tv
    Last edited by speeds; 01-16-2013 at 07:29 AM.


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    Default Re: Team Lloyd Irvin members accused of rape, Lloyd Irvin himself has prior rape case

    Keenan's dad has chimed in and reveals just how deep the rabbit hole goes...



    Hello MMA.com, I'm Tom Callos, Keenan and Chloe's dad, a 40 year MA practitioner, the last 18+ being in BJJ (mostly) but received my 6th dan from Master Teacher Ernie Reyes, Sr. of San Jose, CA, and a long time school owner/teacher/activist working within the international martial arts community.

    For those of you who don't know me, I've been working behind the scenes for nearly 30 years now in the MA teacher's community. I've owned schools, all Ernie Reyes West Coast Schools, most of which are still in business and teaching people the Reyes brand of eclectic, character and performance based martial arts. I've retired from daily teaching, although I still take lessons in BJJ, and I've retired from engaging in school management, although I have, for the last 10+ years, been operating my school and think-tank for teachers of the martial arts --called The 100.

    FYI, The 100. was founded based on a correspondence I once had with Ms. Rosa Parks. I had written her a letter and she responded with a 2 page hand-written letter --and, well, it (further) endeared me to her (of course!). One day a few years later I was thinking about her --and wondering if I might ever do something as important as her simple act of protest and I thought, no, I probably wouldn't or couldn't. But I imagined that 100 martial arts teachers, life-timers, might; 100 of us might, given the right subject and good timing, stand up for things that would make our collective efforts something akin to Ms. Rosa's. We haven't managed it yet, but that's the spirit my current work was started with.

    We have, however, managed to bring some fine ideas and projects to the table, projects involving anger management, environmental self-defense, community activism, teen suicide prevention, dietary self-defense, bully prevention education, and other non-combative education-based subjects. We stand collectively, I believe, for truth in advertising, transparent pricing, and ethical, sane, and sustainable business practices in the martial arts community.

    As for Mr. Avellon (sp?), well, I don't really know who he is (beyond his posts and advertising), what he's done of any significance, or what's wrong with him, but his letters to me have asked if I was retarded, asked me if I was going to continue to carry on like a little girl, and other such bullying tactics --and when I forwarded them to Lloyd to suggest he teach his young student some manners, I got a 30 minute ranting phone call from Lloyd that ended my faith in his coaching, my respect for his intellect, and any desire to cultivate a relationship --on any level --with the man. It was very strange, to say the least (but not half as strange as the sad and thuggish letters I received from MA).

    And all of this occurred before all of this other sad nonsense revealed itself. After the rapes and hearing that Keenan's house was broken into by the SWAT team in full riot gear and that Keenan was pushed to the ground, handcuffed, that guns were pointed at him, and that he was taken to jail for questioning, I wanted my son out of there. Keenan told us those two boys who raped that poor girl bragged about it and had taken video on one or more of their cell phones. At that point, I went into full protection mode --and went public with our family's feelings about the disgusting, troubling, and crazy goings on there in MD.

    These guys don't need my help in destroying their own reputations or revealing to us what sits behind their work. They're doing a fine job at telling us who they are and what they stand for. It's sad and it's very bad for the martial arts community. I regret, now, engaging with competitive BJJ and introducing my son to this sort of thinking and depravity. BJ Penn is my friend, a former student and training partner, and a teacher of mine, and despite his complete immersion in fight culture, he has managed to retain his integrity, to stand up as a role model of effort and community involvement, and even in defeat, he has carried himself like a champion. I can't say the same for these morally questionable young "instructor-thugs."

    That they almost all represent themselves, thru products and hype, as things they are (obviously) anything but, that they have so poorly handled this entire tragedy, that they have engaged in so much stomach churning misogyny and even attacked my daughter's stand on rape and concern for her brother, well, its all becoming quite laughable, I think.

    Keenan is a smart young man, raised well, and conscientious about his practice. I don't want to see this collective lack of character and intelligence stain him as he proceeds with his martial arts and life journey. I also recognize that, until things went so bad, they didn't seem "that" bad, but now, knowing what we all know, how can we sit idle and not expect the men and women bright enough to recognize what's going on and to see who is driving the bus, to look for greener pastures?

    I still find it hard to believe this has all happened. The only benefit to anyone in all of this mess is what it's taught us, through the revealing behavior of their "team," what this organization is, apparently, constructed of. Shame.

    I offer praise to my brave daughter, Chloe, for speaking up, publicly. I'd like to see 1000 more women/men step up and set the record straight about what rape is --and why we don't keep it quiet, tolerate it, or support those who commit it.


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    Default Re: Team Lloyd Irvin members accused of rape, Lloyd Irvin himself has prior rape case

    tomcallos - Hey, fellow forum participants, I am compelled to make one more statement before going to dinner and pushing a little more of this nastiness out of my/our lives:

    If this whole affair disgusts or in any way troubles you, tomorrow morning call your local rape-crises center and offer to volunteer --in whatever capacity they might need volunteers for. Let's stop trashing --and start helping.

    There are only a handful, I believe, of martial arts schools --or for that matter, sensei, in the nation who genuinely understand and TEACH rape prevention to any degree that makes sense or really might make a difference. But we could do it. All of us could.

    Step # 1 is do the research. Talk to people who understand rape and work on behalf of prevention in your community. Use this tragedy to launch our communities most massive, important, non-commercial, grass-roots movement to bring the martial arts world up to speed on the issues.

    Seek out and post the contact info for men and women who have already done their homework --and activists working in the world on behalf of the rights of others. This time next year, let's have many of you sitting at the table in your community with the other committed, educated, proactive, passionate teachers working on rape prevention --so we don't have to deal with so much therapy after-the-fact.

    And please, rape prevention is, as I understand it, only 10% or less physical technique. Your rape prevention should not be made up, only, of what to do when confronted with a physical assault. There's more to it.

    Let's make the rape of these women stand for something, so that their shame and pain becomes the catalyst for a landmark educational effort on behalf of any community we happen to live in. That would turn all of this bullshit into something we can make sense of.
    Tom Callos


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    Default Re: Team Lloyd Irvin members accused of rape, Lloyd Irvin himself has prior rape case

    Quote Originally Posted by speeds View Post
    Irvin's Combat Gold Club refers to it's members as Soldiers of Submission.
    Check out the cult-like atmosphere Irvin creates with this code of conduct...


    Upon competing 16 classes, you enter the Black Belt Update phase of your training at Lloyd Irvin's Martial Arts. Your instructors will conduct a series of evaluations and tests to determine if you qualify for advance training in the Combat Gold Club. If you qualify, you will be invited to join the Combat Gold Club. Train hard and good luck!


    What is the Combat Gold Club?

    The Combat Gold Club is comprised of students committed to the goal of black belt. By the rank of blue belt a student should make the commitment to black belt and join the Combat Gold Club. We predict that over 90 percent of our students will be BBC members or BBC graduates.

    Who can qualify for the Combat Gold Club?

    To qualify, a student must complete 16 classes or above and have Master Lloyd's approval.

    How do I get recommended?

    To qualify for advance training beyond your trial year, you must:

    Have set the goal of black belt.
    Have regular belt exam participation.
    Super attitude in BJJ and have a positive attitude towards life.
    Demonstrate the qualities of Black Belt Excellence in and out of the school.
    Have a very high level of enthusiasm for BJJ class.
    Support school functions.
    Have good attendance and eagerness to make up absences.
    Be current with tuition payments.
    You must be a true representation of Team Lloyd Irvin
    What are the benefits of the Combat Gold Club?

    Lloyd Irvin's Martial Arts Academy is a Black Belt School and when a student makes the commitment to black belt they are past the trial stage. They become part of our school with the following privileges:

    15% discounts on all school equipment, merchandise, and special events.
    Able to attend extra classes and seminars available to Combat Gold Club members only.
    Special Combat Gold Club patch.
    Able to attend our special National Combat Gold Club events.
    Able to attend special technique classes geared for the BBC.
    What is the Soldiers of Submissions?

    First rule about the Soldiers of Submissions is that we don't talk about the S.O.S. Once you're on the Combat Gold Club and you have what it takes someone will talk to you about the Soldiers of Submission. Those that gain entrance into this elite group must have the will and desire of a True Champion. This group isn't for everyone and for this reason we don't speak about it.


    Do you have what it takes?

    Become a member of the National Combat Gold Club
    at Lloyd Irvin's Martial Arts!


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    Default Re: Update: rape scandal rocks Team Lloyd Irvin, biggest affiliate school severs ties

    BETA Academy, one of TLI's biggest affiliate schools, has cut ties with them.

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/1/16...ademy-cut-ties



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    Default Re: Update: rape scandal rocks Team Lloyd Irvin, biggest affiliate school severs ties

    Ryan Hall chimes-in, in devastating fashion...

    http://livingthemartialarts.com/

    The worst of this is certainly the work of some truly reprehensible individuals who
    seem to think that they have the right to destroy the dignity and innocence of
    others in the pathetic service of their own desires. Some of them will hopefully
    bear the full brunt of the justice system’s penalty for the atrocities they have
    committed. Others may not be liable to judgment at the hands of the courts, but
    should in no way be excused for their own disgusting acts both past and recent.

    Somewhat less grievous, but still staggering in its absurd level of insensitivity,
    cultish wagon circling, and revolting lack of perspective has been the response of
    certain individuals who feel the need to blindly defend the actions of those with
    whom they are associated....
    "I understand now that poor character is poor character and there is never any reason to support it, no matter what carrot that person dangles in front of you or threat that person holds over your head. If an individual is willing to blur or even outright ignore the rules of right and wrong, of human decency, on any level, they are highly likely to do the same in other aspects of their life whether I have witnessed them do so yet or not. If they have mistreated others, it’s only a matter of time before my number is called."


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    Default Re: Update: rape scandal rocks Team Lloyd Irvin, biggest affiliate school severs ties

    An Open Letter To From Lloyd Irvin
    Regarding The Reported Events Of New Years Eve 2012 &
    The Ensuing Conversation About Himself & His Team
    During The First Half Of January 2013

    I first want to apologize.

    I want to apologize
    to my mother,
    to my father,
    to my wife
    and
    to my son for my silence.

    The public taunting & harassing phone calls you have received are undeserved and my recent silence is partly to blame.

    I have in fact made statements in the local news
    but those statements have not reached everyone
    in our BJJ & MMA family and this is the reason my silence ends today…

    I want to apologize to every one of my friends, family and supporters who have suffered threats and degradation in my silence.

    I apologize to my team and to everyone who has supported me in these last few weeks. It has been my family and your letters, phone calls, emails and texts have kept me going.

    My ongoing support of my student who has suffered immeasurably, has occupied much of my thoughts and time in these past few weeks. And as we have unwaveringly shown her… her team, my family and I are there for her in every way.

    She and I have been in consistent contact and she has been back in the gym with us again.

    Her strength and resolve in the face of what has happened is truly one of the most humbling and inspiring experiences of my life.

    I have shared with her my feelings on the matter and both of us are focused and committed to supporting her full recovery and violence prevention for ALL women going forward … I’ll speak to you more about that later in this letter.

    One of my biggest priorities in these past couple of weeks has been to express to her my sincere and deepest apology. And that too is what this letter is about.

    I want to publicly apologize to her for me not knowing, not sensing, and not having the awareness to know that this was even possible.

    My wife keeps saying I couldn’t have known, my mom says I couldn’t have known.

    Everyone I’ve confided in said I couldn’t have known, but that doesn’t change my wishing I could have.

    They keep saying the same thing over and over…

    any reasonable person would understand that you couldn’t have known.

    And that may be true but while that’s a convenient position to take,

    the truth is I didn’t know and I wish I had.
    I will go to my grave wishing someone ELSE from my team would have been there for her that night.

    My counselors will have to deal with any fallout from this letter, as they have advised against making this statement but I simply cannot let my friends and family be left to hang in the breeze like this anymore.

    I also want to publicly apologize to my team.

    Young men and women I love with all my heart and soul.

    I wish for YOU that I could have foreseen this and made new years eve not happen.

    Please know that no matter what is said about me…

    you have been and remain the most honorable, supportive & special people I have ever known… I’m proud to have you represent my school and wear our colors.

    I promise you that I will do everything in my power to clear the air so you may have free passage to attain the goals we’ve promised each other we’d attain together.

    That all being said, in answer to the question… “Why have I been silent on this?”
    To put it simply, my focus has been on my team…

    most of all, I have at my school a dear friend, student & team member who’s had an unimaginably horrible experience and
    my only desire is to care for, support and help her.

    I have promised her that I will do everything in my power to avoid this happening ever again within the influence of my organization/team.

    It should be clearly and simply noted…

    I nor anyone else on my current team or staff had ANYTHING at all to do with what is reported to have happened New Years Eve.

    It has been reported that a video (as of the time I am releasing this letter, I have not seen the video nor has the case been resolved) that was described in the recent court documents shows that this was a deplorable and disgraceful act committed by two individuals who acted OUTSIDE the code of honor of our team, NOT within it.

    As for the accusations that I am “fostering” some sort of environment that makes people do horrific things…

    One of the accused had been with me for barely a month and the other for a total time of barely seven months…

    Anyone who feels that there is some sort of subversive environment being taught and encouraged on our team should realize the level of insult and disrespect they are directing not towards me but the truly honorable athletes and human beings that make up our school… both competitors and non-*?competitors alike.

    I want to repeat,

    my singular concern and effort right now (and much of the reason why I have not spoken to date) is caring for and supporting my teammate and friend who is recovering

    In addition my focus is actively engaging as many people and resources as possible to understand more about how these things happen and what if anything we can do to directly impact these situations before they ever happen.

    I don’t know much about what, how or why new years eve happened…
    I wish I did and I think it unwise to pressure her about all of these details at this point as she’s got enough to deal with.

    Certainly as the trial progresses we will all learn more.

    All I can say is I feel sadness for the depraved and misguided individuals who would suggest that this is part of what we teach.

    It’s an insult to the young women and men on my team who have never behaved in any way other than exemplary. Especially the young woman who most deserves our respect and support.

    This young woman who needs my support, my team’s support and your support should be the ONLY thing we are talking about, thinking about & praying about right now but unfortunately as you know I have become a significant portion of this discussion for something that happened in 1989.

    From this point forward I anticipate that
    anything I say will be ripped apart and shredded by those who either have an axe to grind,
    aren’t focused on prevention of violence/rape against women or even may simply not care about the truth.

    I don’t expect ANYTHING less.

    But its simply unfair to this truly remarkable woman and unfair to the rest of my supporters and team to not tell my side of this story.

    The TRUE side of this story.

    For those of you who hate me or who have judged me…

    what I’m about to say is not for you.

    You have passed your judgment and
    I don’t expect to be able to undo that but

    The truth is that nobody knows much of the real story of New Years Eve 2012 nor the incident of 1989 at all.

    This letter is simply for those who have believed in me or at the very least reserved judgment until having more knowledge of the situation.

    For those who have and continue to support me this is also so that you know your belief in me was not and is not misplaced.

    I also want to add that I’m writing this letter as though I was writing a letter to my son.

    The one person I MOST want to understand my position and gain the wisdom I didn’t have.

    What I am about to share with you IS an eyewitness account of what REALLY happened 23 years ago.

    I’m not going to give you the sugar coated version some have told me to give I’m simply going to tell you the truth, the same truth I told 23 years ago

    So for starters…

    I was once 20 years old
    I did things 20 year olds do… drank too much,
    partied too much,
    etc…

    Probably not unlike many 20 year olds,
    I made more than my share of dumb choices.

    I hadn’t found martial arts yet.

    (I was 3 when I took my first martial arts class
    but I didn’t make it the cornerstone of my life until 1996 at that time I still hadn’t learned how to be a leader)

    I’m not saying this to excuse my choices and decisions, as that’s simply not possible.

    I am saying my life and my foundation was different as an uncertain 20 year old than it is now as a father, husband and mentor at 43.

    Recently some people have decided to believe things about me and the 1989 incident that are absolutely positively untrue….

    and this is what I’d like to speak to next…
    I cannot control what you believe nor will I try. I can only tell the truth.

    I told the truth 23 years ago
    to my mother
    to my father and
    under oath in a court of law and I’m telling the truth today.

    I’m telling you the same thing I told the jury and the truth that is STILL on record.

    The facts are the facts and glossing over the fact that

    I did NOT rape nor have sex with ANYONE involved in the 1989 incident cannot and should not be brushed under the carpet.

    I told the 100% unadulterated truth, just as I’m sharing with you right now.

    I did NOT “get off on a technicality” as some want to say.

    Please understand…
    Before my trial in 1989 I was offered a plea bargain for “lesser time”…

    the prosecutors told my father point blank…

    “Mr. Irvin we are going to give your son
    a lesser penalty if he admits
    he is a rapist and if he doesn’t
    we will lock him up and put him away for a very long time.”

    I talked to my mom and my dad.

    I was a kid.
    I didn’t know what to do.
    Terrified is the only word that comes close.

    I’ve never seen my dad cry in my entire life not before and not since… but I remember his breath on my face and his tears in his eyes…

    “Son, are you guilty of rape?”

    Just the words coming flatly from your father’s mouth … eye to eye
    I still tremble today just remembering it.

    I said “no, no dad I didn’t rape her, I didn’t.” And with that he said…

    “then you will not say you did.”

    And so like my father taught me from the first time I could walk, I went and told the truth and as a result….
    I was not convicted. I was innocent.

    It’s the SAME truth I am sharing with you today…
    It will be the same thing I will eventually tell my son.

    I can only hope that you,

    my BJJ and MMA brothers and sisters,
    judge me based on this truth of what actually happened 23 years ago. Not what some want to presume, guess or assume happened.

    I don’t know that this is necessary and my actions and behavior as well as the actions and behavior of ALL but two of my shortest tenured students should demonstrate this…

    But just in case it is necessary I want everyone reading this to know without ANY uncertainty what so ever…

    I am 100% against rape, attempted rape or any other form of violence against women. I don’t support it, don’t condone it and don’t enable an environment that would ever have anything to do with it.

    Part of me wants to take you point by point bit by bit over the hundreds of hours of testimony and reams of media coverage to demonstrate how little has actually been revealed to date about the night of the incident, actual testimony and the trial.

    But revisiting & rehashing every detail from the case 23 years ago would be nothing but selfish on my part (especially a case whose conclusion found me innocent of all charges).

    I feel doing that does nothing productive for the BJJ and MMA community I care so much about, nothing productive for the men and women of my team and most of all nothing productive for healing needed for the woman my total focus and support is on right now.

    The next most common question I hear
    people asking is multiple forms of… “What about now?”

    Would I do things differently?
    Have I done things differently?
    Would I make different choices?
    Have I made different choices?
    Does this alter how I counsel my son?
    Has any of this effected how I counsel my team members in efforts to help them choose the right path?

    Absolutely YES to all of it.

    I can’t change what’s happened. I wish I was wiser then.

    I have been and AM changing what’s happened every moment since.

    Especially for these last 16 years …

    …and as part of that continued changing
    will be my deep and sincere
    commitment to the woman who needs our support most right now and my promise to spend
    the rest of my days doing what I can to
    prevent any woman from ever
    experiencing anything even remotely similar.

    People are often quick to say “actions speak louder than words”… and in this case I have 16 years of publicly visible
    actions as a martial artist, as a teacher, a coach,
    a husband, a father, a mentor and an advocate…

    and in the end while my actions don’t ERASE the past,
    those actions DO demonstrate the DIFFERENCE between
    the man writing this statement and
    the boy who failed to live up to the standards his mother and father set for him.

    Lastly.
    I have been posed with two most common questions over these last few weeks.

    1) “Why have I hidden this all this time?” Well to be frank…

    please ask yourself to remember the most embarrassing and frightening moment of your entire life and then ask yourself exactly where is it appropriate in EVERY relationship you engage in to bring up that moment/circumstance for the rest of your life.

    My wife has known about 1989 since we first met. My closest friends have known for years.
    Even some of my enemies have known.
    Nothing about this has been hidden.

    Which leads to the second question…

    2) Why did I buy and put up the website url that I purchased and put rape prevention seminar information on it shortly after all the news broke regarding New Years Eve?

    For this I can do nothing other than apologize 100%. I was wrong.
    The timing was horrible and I completely dropped the ball.

    The long and short of it was this…
    The reason I purchased the url was singular.

    I didn’t like the tone and tenor of things online
    (but still felt I could not speak publicly about anything) and I simply didn’t want someone else in control of
    the name my Son and I share in association with
    the current or 1989 situation.

    Beyond that my intention was honorable
    but the execution and timing were awful
    As everyone can see,
    the moment I realized this,, it was taken down…

    I have been an ADVOCATE for women for all my life in the martial arts.

    The martial arts have been my entire life since 1996
    when I finally grew up enough for it to stop being a hobby and it became my life’s foundation.

    Anyone who knows me KNOWS this to be 100% TRUE.

    And since being told about New Years Eve
    my resolve and commitment to doing MORE than I EVER have before
    in this area of women’s advocacy against violence has grown RADICALLY.

    Bottom line is I am 100% guilty of poor timing and taste when it comes to the url and what was posted.

    I spoke to the woman involved new years eve about this and told her my sincere intentions…

    I vow to absolutely make rape & violence against women prevention an even more major cornerstone of my future efforts.

    Understand that my rape-*?prevention program has ALWAYS been completely free, its not a marketing gimmick as some accusers have said.

    I didn’t realize it was possible but
    I promise you that my sensitivity to rape & violence against women prevention has now been made stronger than ever before.

    If there is any good that can come of all of this

    it’s the fact that we are all talking more about rape & violence prevention against women, EDUCATION OF MEN and how to create environments and relationships that keep violence from being used off the mat.

    If you believe what I’ve shared here,
    I thank you for your support and I apologize for taking so long to speak out.

    If you don’t believe me,
    all I ask is that you spare my wife, my mom, my dad and my son any venom you have towards me.

    In closing,

    I want to directly and specifically speak to my brothers and sisters in the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu community. I am sorry, truly sorry for the shadow this casts over our great art, sport and lifestyle that we lead.

    Many people have their opinions and say what they will about my team and my school and my approach to things.

    But one thing nobody can say is that I don’t have a deep passion and commitment to and for our art, sport and our community.

    And its with that passion and commitment that I promise every one of you with all my heart and soul that while I would not and did not commit nor encourage nor enable anything that would ever hurt, harm or violate one of my own friends and team members.

    I will move heaven and earth to understand what happened and why it happened. And should I discover ANYTHING that can be done to prevent new years eve from happening ever again I promise with the tenacity and commitment I have become known for, I will make any and all necessary changes.

    I will spend every waking moment finding ways to make sure everyday from this day forward Team Lloyd Irvin brings enough light back to our community to drown out the darkness of these last few weeks.

    On this you have my word.

    Lastly, If you really want to know what MY philosophy about my team, my school, my responsibilities as a martial arts instructor and the martial arts REALLY is…

    If you want to know what’s happening to ‘the water and the fish in the bowl’…

    watch this video…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTxAj...ature=youtu.be

    I AGREE 100% with their thoughts on what I face and every instructor faces going forward when it comes to what we want for our students and what our responsibilities are to our students, our art, our sport and our community.

    During the video at 28:26 he says “this has to be a wake up call”… he’s right… it does… and it is… and I promise you

    I will make things better for us all or die trying.

    My sincere thanks to both of these men for making this video and the honor they bring to our BJJ family.

    I sincerely thank you for your time and your attention,

    Lloyd Irvin Jr.


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    Default Re: Update: rape scandal rocks Team Lloyd Irvin, biggest affiliate school severs ties

    What I am about to share with you IS an eyewitness account of what REALLY happened 23 years ago.

    I’m not going to give you the sugar coated version some have told me to give I’m simply going to tell you the truth, the same truth I told 23 years ago
    Except he doesn't, at all. He provides no details whatsoever.


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    Default Re: Update: Lloyd Irvin breaks silence, but does he say anything, really?

    It is commendable that Irvin is spending time with the victim and at least taking partial responsibility for what his students did to her, despite saying they were "barely" his students. If I lived in your house for seven months I doubt you'd say I was "barely" your tenant, but anyway...

    What's more disturbing is that the rape victim from 89 directly accused Irvin of raping her but his defense was impotence, and one juror had doubt so he was not found guilty. If he's hanging his hat on that it doesn't speak well of his character. Either he wanted to have sex with her but couldn't (his words) or he did have sex with her and denied it (her words). In both cases he witnessed what would in the very least be the sexual abuse of a minor (and wanted in on it). At worst he witnessed a gang rape and participated. Both Lloyd's version and the victim's version of the events make him out to be a fucking creep!


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