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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Aldridge is a great post defender vs his own man.


    I am not a hater, just pointing that out as to not mislead anyone

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Yeah but zags, blue9 and fez say he is a horrible defender. They don't look at stats brother

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocre Man View Post
    Aldridge is a great post defender vs his own man.


    I am not a hater, just pointing that out as to not mislead anyone
    The data: FG% on all shots taken by all players when Aldridge was within 5 feet of the basket.

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Aldridge is a great one on one defender, but isn't that great at help d. That's the misconception. That's why adding a player like McGee could really help this ball club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TowelBoy View Post
    The data: FG% on all shots taken by all players when Aldridge was within 5 feet of the basket.
    Oh shit!!! Then excuse my last post then! Take that haters!!!!!

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    I've always felt this. Since this article confirms my bias, it's definitely true.


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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Damn I wish we could've got Hibbert. Why did Indy have to match?
    Too many Florence Nightingales
    Not enough Robin Hoods

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Rastapopoulos View Post
    Damn I wish we could've got Hibbert. Why did Indy have to match?
    Hibbert would be the perfect compliment to Aldridge. We would probably be the best team that defends points in the paint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastapopoulos View Post
    Damn I wish we could've got Hibbert. Why did Indy have to match?
    Literally the perfect compliment to Aldridge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastapopoulos View Post
    Damn I wish we could've got Hibbert. Why did Indy have to match?
    Because guys the size of trees that can actually hoop don't just grow on trees?
    Simply Kahmical.

    Lillard in 2012 and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnifier661 View Post
    Oh shit!!! Then excuse my last post then! Take that haters!!!!!
    Then put him at center, make him the apex of the defense, and sign/trade for a different PF.

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Quote Originally Posted by TowelBoy View Post
    The data: FG% on all shots taken by all players when Aldridge was within 5 feet of the basket.
    Interesting. Not quite sure what to make of it. I'm certainly not just going to buy into it because some weird amalgamation of numbers says something that my eyes tell me isn't true. It's pretty much been the consensus here - both lovers and haters - that LMA is not a good help-defender. Are we all just making it up when we see LMA stand glued to the floor rather than rotating to protect the hoop? Funny that some people are so quick to buy into something without first giving it a bit of thought as long as it helps refute someone they take great issue with.

    So...ALL shots taken when LMA is within 5' of the hoop? So, all 3-pointers, all mid-range jumpers, all lay-ups - everything. I'm not quite sure how a missed 3-pointer makes LMA a better post defender...I think it just points to Nic/Wes/whoever being a good perimeter defender OR the shooter just taking a lower-percentage shot. Also, how often is LMA within 5' of the hoop? Given that he leads all PFs (and all but one C) in minutes played, yet only "faced" 221 shots (good for 7th on the list) it appears he's not near the hoop all too often. If he's not near the hoop, how can he be protecting it?

    Maybe we have a poorly thought out stat that really doesn't measure anything?

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Quote Originally Posted by TowelBoy View Post
    The full list is on page 7 of the following pdf link:

    http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbesarable View Post
    The full list is on page 7 of the following pdf link:

    http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf
    The full list of players they studied anyway

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    YOU CAN'T LOOK AT ANY STATS (I.E BLOCKS PER GAME) OR EVEN HIS GAME TO DETERMINE THAT HE IS INDEED A POOR DEFENDER. WE NEED TO TRADE HIM *STAT*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocre Man View Post
    The full list of players they studied anyway
    It's better than giving you just the top 10.

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbesarable View Post
    The full list is on page 7 of the following pdf link:

    http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf
    And on that list he ranks #37 in "shots faced"...

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Quote Originally Posted by blue9 View Post
    And on that list he ranks #37 in "shots faced"...
    Check the following on p. 11 of the pdf:

    B) Proximal FG%: The results summarize the FG% of opponents when each defender was within 5 feet.

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Quote Originally Posted by blue9 View Post
    Interesting. Not quite sure what to make of it. I'm certainly not just going to buy into it because some weird amalgamation of numbers says something that my eyes tell me isn't true. It's pretty much been the consensus here - both lovers and haters - that LMA is not a good help-defender. Are we all just making it up when we see LMA stand glued to the floor rather than rotating to protect the hoop? Funny that some people are so quick to buy into something without first giving it a bit of thought as long as it helps refute someone they take great issue with.

    So...ALL shots taken when LMA is within 5' of the hoop? So, all 3-pointers, all mid-range jumpers, all lay-ups - everything. I'm not quite sure how a missed 3-pointer makes LMA a better post defender...I think it just points to Nic/Wes/whoever being a good perimeter defender OR the shooter just taking a lower-percentage shot. Also, how often is LMA within 5' of the hoop? Given that he leads all PFs (and all but one C) in minutes played, yet only "faced" 221 shots (good for 7th on the list) it appears he's not near the hoop all too often. If he's not near the hoop, how can he be protecting it?

    Maybe we have a poorly thought out stat that really doesn't measure anything?
    The data is broken down by close FGA, middle FGA, and 3PTA. But it is sorted by close FGA.

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    I'm not a Hater and I don't even play one on TV. However, I think the haters would look at the first column (of page 7) and confirm what they already think, which is something like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hater
    In the rare occasions LMA is within 5 ft of the basket, the team's defense improves significantly.
    For myself I would simply say that there are a lot easier ways to score on Portland than going into the post against LMA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbesarable View Post
    The full list is on page 7 of the following pdf link:

    http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf
    5th String Centers are not worth thinking about let alone talking about.

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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    anyone that watches games can tell he frustrates opponents on the block

    but...hes not as good as lebron! so he sucks!!1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drexlersdad View Post
    anyone that watches games can tell he frustrates opponents on the block

    but...hes not as good as lebron! so he sucks!!1!
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    Default Re: Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

    Quote Originally Posted by blue9 View Post
    Interesting. Not quite sure what to make of it. I'm certainly not just going to buy into it because some weird amalgamation of numbers says something that my eyes tell me isn't true. It's pretty much been the consensus here - both lovers and haters - that LMA is not a good help-defender. Are we all just making it up when we see LMA stand glued to the floor rather than rotating to protect the hoop? Funny that some people are so quick to buy into something without first giving it a bit of thought as long as it helps refute someone they take great issue with.

    So...ALL shots taken when LMA is within 5' of the hoop? So, all 3-pointers, all mid-range jumpers, all lay-ups - everything. I'm not quite sure how a missed 3-pointer makes LMA a better post defender...I think it just points to Nic/Wes/whoever being a good perimeter defender OR the shooter just taking a lower-percentage shot. Also, how often is LMA within 5' of the hoop? Given that he leads all PFs (and all but one C) in minutes played, yet only "faced" 221 shots (good for 7th on the list) it appears he's not near the hoop all too often. If he's not near the hoop, how can he be protecting it?

    Maybe we have a poorly thought out stat that really doesn't measure anything?
    the wild hypotheticals to try and fit your narrative are coming off as ridiculously desperate

    its talking about post defense

    re-read it if you have to

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    That stat sucks

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