Uh oh, Aldridge is an awesome post defender

[TowelBoy]

What will the haters think??

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/3/4/...post-defenders

[Mediocre Man]

Aldridge is a great post defender vs his own man.


I am not a hater, just pointing that out as to not mislead anyone

[magnifier661]

Yeah but zags, blue9 and fez say he is a horrible defender. They don't look at stats brother

[TowelBoy]

Aldridge is a great post defender vs his own man.


I am not a hater, just pointing that out as to not mislead anyone

The data: FG% on all shots taken by all players when Aldridge was within 5 feet of the basket.

[magnifier661]

Aldridge is a great one on one defender, but isn't that great at help d. That's the misconception. That's why adding a player like McGee could really help this ball club.

[magnifier661]

The data: FG% on all shots taken by all players when Aldridge was within 5 feet of the basket.

Oh shit!!! Then excuse my last post then! Take that haters!!!!!

[mook]

I've always felt this. Since this article confirms my bias, it's definitely true.

[Rastapopoulos]

Damn I wish we could've got Hibbert. Why did Indy have to match?

[magnifier661]

Damn I wish we could've got Hibbert. Why did Indy have to match?

Hibbert would be the perfect compliment to Aldridge. We would probably be the best team that defends points in the paint

[Mediocre Man]

Damn I wish we could've got Hibbert. Why did Indy have to match?

Literally the perfect compliment to Aldridge

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Damn I wish we could've got Hibbert. Why did Indy have to match?

Because guys the size of trees that can actually hoop don't just grow on trees?

[Hobbesarable]

Oh shit!!! Then excuse my last post then! Take that haters!!!!!

Then put him at center, make him the apex of the defense, and sign/trade for a different PF.

[blue9]

The data: FG% on all shots taken by all players when Aldridge was within 5 feet of the basket.

Interesting. Not quite sure what to make of it. I'm certainly not just going to buy into it because some weird amalgamation of numbers says something that my eyes tell me isn't true. It's pretty much been the consensus here - both lovers and haters - that LMA is not a good help-defender. Are we all just making it up when we see LMA stand glued to the floor rather than rotating to protect the hoop? Funny that some people are so quick to buy into something without first giving it a bit of thought as long as it helps refute someone they take great issue with.

So...ALL shots taken when LMA is within 5' of the hoop? So, all 3-pointers, all mid-range jumpers, all lay-ups - everything. I'm not quite sure how a missed 3-pointer makes LMA a better post defender...I think it just points to Nic/Wes/whoever being a good perimeter defender OR the shooter just taking a lower-percentage shot. Also, how often is LMA within 5' of the hoop? Given that he leads all PFs (and all but one C) in minutes played, yet only "faced" 221 shots (good for 7th on the list) it appears he's not near the hoop all too often. If he's not near the hoop, how can he be protecting it?

Maybe we have a poorly thought out stat that really doesn't measure anything?

[Hobbesarable]

What will the haters think??

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/3/4/...post-defenders

The full list is on page 7 of the following pdf link:

http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf

[Mediocre Man]

The full list is on page 7 of the following pdf link:

http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf

The full list of players they studied anyway

[EL PRESIDENTE]

YOU CAN'T LOOK AT ANY STATS (I.E BLOCKS PER GAME) OR EVEN HIS GAME TO DETERMINE THAT HE IS INDEED A POOR DEFENDER. WE NEED TO TRADE HIM *STAT*.

[Hobbesarable]

The full list of players they studied anyway

It's better than giving you just the top 10.

[blue9]

The full list is on page 7 of the following pdf link:

http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf

And on that list he ranks #37 in "shots faced"...

[Hobbesarable]

And on that list he ranks #37 in "shots faced"...

Check the following on p. 11 of the pdf:

B) Proximal FG%: The results summarize the FG% of opponents when each defender was within 5 feet.

[TowelBoy]

Interesting. Not quite sure what to make of it. I'm certainly not just going to buy into it because some weird amalgamation of numbers says something that my eyes tell me isn't true. It's pretty much been the consensus here - both lovers and haters - that LMA is not a good help-defender. Are we all just making it up when we see LMA stand glued to the floor rather than rotating to protect the hoop? Funny that some people are so quick to buy into something without first giving it a bit of thought as long as it helps refute someone they take great issue with.

So...ALL shots taken when LMA is within 5' of the hoop? So, all 3-pointers, all mid-range jumpers, all lay-ups - everything. I'm not quite sure how a missed 3-pointer makes LMA a better post defender...I think it just points to Nic/Wes/whoever being a good perimeter defender OR the shooter just taking a lower-percentage shot. Also, how often is LMA within 5' of the hoop? Given that he leads all PFs (and all but one C) in minutes played, yet only "faced" 221 shots (good for 7th on the list) it appears he's not near the hoop all too often. If he's not near the hoop, how can he be protecting it?

Maybe we have a poorly thought out stat that really doesn't measure anything?

The data is broken down by close FGA, middle FGA, and 3PTA. But it is sorted by close FGA.

[Wizard Mentor]

I'm not a Hater and I don't even play one on TV. However, I think the haters would look at the first column (of page 7) and confirm what they already think, which is something like this:

In the rare occasions LMA is within 5 ft of the basket, the team's defense improves significantly.

For myself I would simply say that there are a lot easier ways to score on Portland than going into the post against LMA.

The full list is on page 7 of the following pdf link:

http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf

[drexlersdad]

anyone that watches games can tell he frustrates opponents on the block

but...hes not as good as lebron! so he sucks!!1!

[Natebishop3]

anyone that watches games can tell he frustrates opponents on the block

but...hes not as good as lebron! so he sucks!!1!

This post needs more 1s.

[drexlersdad]

Interesting. Not quite sure what to make of it. I'm certainly not just going to buy into it because some weird amalgamation of numbers says something that my eyes tell me isn't true. It's pretty much been the consensus here - both lovers and haters - that LMA is not a good help-defender. Are we all just making it up when we see LMA stand glued to the floor rather than rotating to protect the hoop? Funny that some people are so quick to buy into something without first giving it a bit of thought as long as it helps refute someone they take great issue with.

So...ALL shots taken when LMA is within 5' of the hoop? So, all 3-pointers, all mid-range jumpers, all lay-ups - everything. I'm not quite sure how a missed 3-pointer makes LMA a better post defender...I think it just points to Nic/Wes/whoever being a good perimeter defender OR the shooter just taking a lower-percentage shot. Also, how often is LMA within 5' of the hoop? Given that he leads all PFs (and all but one C) in minutes played, yet only "faced" 221 shots (good for 7th on the list) it appears he's not near the hoop all too often. If he's not near the hoop, how can he be protecting it?

Maybe we have a poorly thought out stat that really doesn't measure anything?

the wild hypotheticals to try and fit your narrative are coming off as ridiculously desperate

its talking about post defense

re-read it if you have to

[VanillaGorilla]

That stat sucks