Could have been a contender??????

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  1. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    The other day I got to thinking about all the new Yankee players that I thought at the time, "The guy is going to be special" but ended up not being what I expected.


    Kevin Maas & Shane Spencer are obvious selections but who else did you think could have been special but wasn't?

    Andy Kosco?, Dan Pasqua?, Or perhaps, Gerald Williams?. Who's your guy?
     
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    Kevin Maas was definitely on my list... I would also add Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances... Hell, Joba looked OUTSTANDING until the bugs attacked him and he lost his mojo...

    Food for thought... http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/10398728/new-york-yankees-farm-system-gone-wrong and http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130823/yankees-farm-system-joe-kelly-cubs-stats/
     
  4. Rick2583

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    I honestly think that "JOBA RULES" shit also messed him up.

    And did we get all we could out of Mike (Pags) Pagliarulo?
     
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    You all pretty much nailed this one,
    Pags, Pasqua, Bam Bam Meulens, Maas-(as quick to 100 HR's as the Bambino), Joba, Hughes, Boesch, Montero, you guys pretty much named them all. I am glad they were shipped off too.

    I always thought Joe Pepitone was supposed to be the second coming of Mickey Mantle, and was let down he couldn't fill the Micks shoes.

    Add Tom Tresh to the list too.

    Some who should of remained Yankees IMO were:
    Austin Jackson
    Al Leiter
    Doug Drabek

    just to name a couple, feel free to add those who you feel should of remained Yankees also.
    I'd list more, but am late to work, (retired but got a chore to do in town, cya later)..
     
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    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Can Newman, Oppenheimer and Cashman get past the
    "guessing game" in selecting future Yankees? Man......
    I still think they are complete failures making millions.
    Hire me. LOL
     
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    I also thought we'd get more out of Steve Whitaker & Otto Velez. And we should have held onto Buhner.
     
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    This is very true wrt joba rules...
     
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    Limited to guys from the farm, or can we include FA acquisition s?
     
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    FA's that ended up being a bust? Hell yeah & I'd put Ed Whitson right at the top along side Kevin Brown.
     
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    Alex Rodriguez
     
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    Pavano?
     
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    He won an MVP and a WS with us... even if it were pharmaceutically enhanced... not sure I can say he was a complete bust...
     
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    Compared to what was expected? He's a complete bust. More so than everyone else named, combined.
     
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    A lot was expected yes, failed to meet expectations, yes, but a bust, I wouldn't say that...

    Now, Pavano was a bust...
     
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    Its all of relative hammer. Aroid was a bust when you look at the gap of expectations vs. Actual. That gap is larger than anything you would ever dream to get from fragile Carl.
     
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    I'll agree to disagree on this... he carried the team many times... Pavano never did... A-Rod was most definitely a disappointment as a whole, but he was vital to the last championship.... wouldn't have won it without him
     
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    Was Phil Hughes mentioned yet?

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    Pava-NO was a Butt Bust. I never ever heard of any player in MLB History, going on the DL for falling on his ass/butt.

    Brown, what a dick...!
    3 years in L.A. prior, and had 1, maybe 1 1/2 decent years in L.A., but was a bust in L.A. overall. Couldn't believe my ears, when NY signed the idiot.

    Buhner definitely should of been kept in NY. HR power to all Fields.

    Ed Whitson downright stunk. Could never win in NY, or handle the crowd of NY, a litmus test for greatness, and Ed failed miserably.

    I would of not let Reggie walk
    either. Although I enjoyed seeing Reggie play in Anaheim, he should of retired a Yankee, not an Angel.

    I was glad to see Rickey Henderson become a Yankee, but even happier to see Rickey go back to Oakland.

    I enjoyed seeing the likes of Gooden, Strawberry, Sheffiled, Justice, Sierra, don pinstripes, although they were but shadows of their former glory years and self's. Doc did throw a No Hitter in the Bronx, and the others put fear in opposing pitchers, getting some key hits, and Post Season power. I would of thought twice about obtaining Cecil Fielder, and Jesse Barfield, (Barfield came at to steep a price, by trading away Leiter, who would throw his first No-No in Toronto, I mentioned Leiter already, cant' say it enough either).

    And of course, we got the great Ichiro, one of the greatest hitters in his prime, of all time, tho' his prime is up, not many players can do what Ichiro can at his age. Another HOF'er to be in our midst, to bad the Yanks couldn't of landed him in 2000. But he is no Derek Jeter either. He is Ichiro San, 2nd in rifle arm caliber in his prime, only behind Roberto Clemente.

    I was thrilled as a kid, to see Wetteland depart to Texas, allowing MO' to step in and become the great HOF'er he was. Flash Gordon was a great set up man in his day as well. A better set up man, than he was a Starter, with KC and Boston, IMHO.

    I enjoyed seeing the likes of Jimmy Key, David Cone, David Wells, Roger Clemens, Mike Mussina, coming to the Yankees, what a SP staff those 90s on Bronx Kings had. One of my all time favorite moments in Yankee History, was seeing Boomer wearing a game used Babe Ruth Cap. Recall-Wells pitched one inning before Torre made him remove it.

    By the time he donned PinStripes, Randy Johnson IMO, was a shadow of the Great Pitcher he once was, A sad way to end a career, hanging on too long, never able to extend his reign of greatness, never showing glimpses of a 5 Time Cy Young Record Holder.

    Torre was no doubt one of my favorite Mgrs. to come to the Bronx. I also loved Sweet Lou as a Mgr. The only Mgr. who ever showed Donnie Baseball, what he was doing wrong, when he rarely slumped. I never would of fired Pinella either.

    I don't think Lemon should of been fired, and Martin hired and fired 5 times, WTF- revealed King George's lack of prowess, and a addiction to Press Headlines.

    Man I could do this all day long, into the night....(but I'm trying to keep replies to 20 words or less).....
     
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    Definitely should have held onto Jackson which years later George admitted that he messed up on that one. And I hated to see Chambliss get traded.
     

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