Could Wolves send Martin to Bulls?

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    from ESPN rumors
     
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    Seems to me that this one's been out there for a long time. If you need volume scoring and are willing to completely sacrifice defense and pay through the nose, you might entertain this one.

    My sense is that the Bulls aren't too worried about scoring going into this season with Rose, McDermott, Mirotic and Gasol being added to the mix.
     
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    Why not pay the LT?

    If he's going to help us contend, let's pay for a winner.

    $7M/season seems like a fair salary to me.
     
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    is Martin better for this team than Dunleavy and Snell? I'm not convinced he is.
     
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    You want to win this year? Yes. He's at worst worth $4M in year 3.
     
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    Like Martin, Dunleavy is a veteran jump-shooting wing who is a proven 3-point shooter. Neither is considered a good defender. I don't see a significant difference between them at this point in their respective careers other than that Martin is more of a volume shooter and as a result, Martin scores more points than Dunleavy. I'm not convinced that this Bulls team needs that volume-based difference and therefore, I'm not interested in giving Tony Snell away for a difference that I believe isn't particularly important to this team. Further, while neither Martin nor Dunleavy is a stellar defender, Dunleavy is both better and more versatile.
     
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    The age difference between Dunleavy and Martin makes little difference for this season.

    Martin as a "scorer" is an OK characterization as long as you understand that both Dunleavy and Martin are jump shooters. Neither takes the ball to the basket. Though it's true that Martin is assisted on somewhat fewer of his jump shots than Dunleavy is, the fact remains that the main reason Martin scores more than Dunleavy is that he takes more jump shots than Dunleavy. The other differences really come across to me as fairly minor.
     
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    Dunleavy took 60% of his shots 2 pointers, a 3pt specialist
    Martin took 71% of his shots 2 pointers, score from all over

    Martin always has been able to manufacture his own shot. Taking more shots is a factor of having the ability to get off more shots.

    Basically, they had to run plays to get Dunleavy free for an open look. You can give the ball to Martin and he'll put the ball in the basket or draws fouls. Dunleavy took 2.3 FTA per 36. Martin more than doubled that at 5.6.

    It's not like the Bulls had a better choice to take shots than Dunleavy, eh? But he still only took ~11 FGA/36.
     

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