What are your thoughts on him so far? I know some of you have given your feelings on him already. I went to the game against the Wizards the other night and I watched Pietrus closely. I see now what others were saying and also why Monty has doubts about putting him in the game. Yes, he hustles and is a good defender. But offensively the guy is lost. The coach is yelling at him everytime down court to make sure he is in the right place. He puts his head down and goes to the basket and when someone stops him and doesn't know what to do with the ball. He had a key TO when he left his feet and threw the ball to the other team for a Hughes dunk. We lost the game by 2 points. Don't get me wrong, I love Pietrus and he has a bright future but he just isn't very smart out there.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">What are your thoughts on him so far? I know some of you have given your feelings on him already. I went to the game against the Wizards the other night and I watched Pietrus closely. I see now what others were saying and also why Monty has doubts about putting him in the game. Yes, he hustles and is a good defender. But offensively the guy is lost. The coach is yelling at him everytime down court to make sure he is in the right place. He puts his head down and goes to the basket and when someone stops him and doesn't know what to do with the ball. He had a key TO when he left his feet and threw the ball to the other team for a Hughes dunk. We lost the game by 2 points. Don't get me wrong, I love Pietrus and he has a bright future but he just isn't very smart out there.</div> Yeah, he is a bit lost. But imagine once he knows the offense. One of the grand benfits of Pietrus is that when he comes, we get up tempo and lots of scoring style games. But if I were to give Pietrus a rating /10, I say 5/10 (although he is my favorite player
Yes I hope that he does begin to understand the offense better and understand the game of basketball as a whole a lot better. The guy has all the physical talents a player can ask for. Monty is probably the best thing for him right now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes I hope that he does begin to understand the offense better and understand the game of basketball as a whole a lot better. The guy has all the physical talents a player can ask for. Monty is probably the best thing for him right now.</div> I agree that Monty will help him a lot. Muss didn't really play him that much and well, Pietrus kinda did the out of control scorer kind of thing last year. If he can control his shots and his shot selection, he will probably beat out Dunleavy for the starting spot sometime this year.
I enjoy Pietrus' energy and enthusiasm. Defensively, he's active and next to Cliffy our best defender. Offensively, he's simply lost. He has fallen in love with the 3 and the other team(s) is playing off him and daring him to shoot it, as I would. Even if he makes a couple, its a losing proposition at this point. Pietrus has got to come up with a dependable offensive routine, either a pull up mid-range jumper or a reliable drive to the hoop. Sometimes Pietrus will get the ball on a kickout and he hesitates which ruins the flow and lets the defense recover. He needs to learn to anticipate what he's going to do when he gets the ball and make that move decisively, whether its to shoot or drive or pass. Overall, I am heartened by Pietrus' play and can only look forward to his improvement. He is ideal for what Montgomery is doing with him, putting him with the 2nd team for energy and scramble plays against the other team's 2nd team and occasionally playing with the 1st team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">I enjoy Pietrus' energy and enthusiasm. Defensively, he's active and next to Cliffy our best defender. Offensively, he's simply lost. He has fallen in love with the 3 and the other team(s) is playing off him and daring him to shoot it, as I would. Even if he makes a couple, its a losing proposition at this point. Pietrus has got to come up with a dependable offensive routine, either a pull up mid-range jumper or a reliable drive to the hoop. Sometimes Pietrus will get the ball on a kickout and he hesitates which ruins the flow and lets the defense recover. He needs to learn to anticipate what he's going to do when he gets the ball and make that move decisively, whether its to shoot or drive or pass. Overall, I am heartened by Pietrus' play and can only look forward to his improvement. He is ideal for what Montgomery is doing with him, putting him with the 2nd team for energy and scramble plays against the other team's 2nd team and occasionally playing with the 1st team.</div> I just know that once he can better understand the game, he will definetly turn into a key factor for the Warriors and their distant playoff hopes. I have to agreee with almost everything you said Phil
The only time I have seen Pietrus play THIS YEAR was last night and he looked AWESOME! I think if Monty preaches defense and wants to reward players for playing good defense, Pietrus should start. He should start based solely on effort and defense. The icing on the cake is that the guy takes it hard to the rim, he draws fouls, shoots decent from the line and he can hit the 3. What more could you want? A little better understanding of the system, he wont get that sitting on the bench. With Dunleavy, we know what we are getting out of him. With Pietrus on the other hand, he could be the next Sprewell. He is THAT good on defense and will develop his offensive game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">The only time I have seen Pietrus play THIS YEAR was last night and he looked AWESOME! I think if Monty preaches defense and wants to reward players for playing good defense, Pietrus should start. He should start based solely on effort and defense. The icing on the cake is that the guy takes it hard to the rim, he draws fouls, shoots decent from the line and he can hit the 3. What more could you want? A little better understanding of the system, he wont get that sitting on the bench. With Dunleavy, we know what we are getting out of him. With Pietrus on the other hand, he could be the next Sprewell. He is THAT good on defense and will develop his offensive game.</div> Good post WarriorsFan93. But yes, if Monty does award players with good defense with playing time, Pietrus should be the W's starting small forward
I agree with what Philsmith and Warriorsfan had to say. Yes, Pietrus is raw... but he also has the potential to be our best player at both ends of the floor if he can develop an all around game in his position with some finnese moves around the hoop. He's something of an amazing physical spectacle when you watch him move against other 6'6 players. His lateral quickness is just freakish for a player his size. Plus he starts with defense, something the Warriors have badly needed in our starting lineup. If he's not hot from the field, he'll still drive for loose balls or tie people up for the jump ball or play aggressive man-to-man defense.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Pietrus:</div><div class="quote_post">Good post WarriorsFan93. But yes, if Monty does award players with good defense with playing time, Pietrus should be the W's starting small forward</div> Thats what I am saying. The same goes for Muss. I was mad at how he preached defense, but when it came to starters, offensive players got the start over defensive players. Look, it all starts with defense. Even if Pietrus cant shoot a lick, playing defense and rebounding can lead to a fast break for easy points. Pietrus should be starting either over Jrich or Dunleavy. That means if I had to choose between Dunleavy and Jrich, I would choose Jrich because both of them are awful defensively, however, Jrich will give you 20 on any given night let alone 6-7 rebs and 3-4 assists.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats what I am saying. The same goes for Muss. I was mad at how he preached defense, but when it came to starters, offensive players got the start over defensive players. Look, it all starts with defense. Even if Pietrus cant shoot a lick, playing defense and rebounding can lead to a fast break for easy points. Pietrus should be starting either over Jrich or Dunleavy. That means if I had to choose between Dunleavy and Jrich, I would choose Jrich because both of them are awful defensively, however, Jrich will give you 20 on any given night let alone 6-7 rebs and 3-4 assists.</div> J-Rich and Pietrus would be an awesome duo. Imagine, a defender and a scorer as our 2 guard and our SF. Just let Pietrus get adjusted to the offense and then play him like Jamison, Murphy, or J-Rich
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Pietrus:</div><div class="quote_post">J-Rich and Pietrus would be an awesome duo. Imagine, a defender and a scorer as our 2 guard and our SF. Just let Pietrus get adjusted to the offense and then play him like Jamison, Murphy, or J-Rich</div> That is what I am saying. Dunleavy would be a great Garrity type player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">That is what I am saying. Dunleavy would be a great Garrity type player.</div> Yeah, he just needs the right coach. But once he can paly okay D and shoot and score 15+ points per game, we have ourselves a great bench player like Bobby Jackson
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">That is what I am saying. Dunleavy would be a great Garrity type player.</div> How would Dunleavy be a Pat Garrity type player? Garrity is a 3 point specialist and Dunleavy is a brick specialist. We tried that experiment with Musselman last year and Monty this year and Dunleavy just misses way too many times. If only Dunleavy wasn't 6'9 I think he'd still have his old man's speed and be able to run that break like a real 6 foot point guard. The problem is he grew and there went his mobility. I heard he wasn't sloth like before his growth spurt. I don't know if that still solves his shooting problem. I know it's mental, but we don't have time to wait until he finally decides he wants to win. Show some fire. Be Rick Barry. Play tough and aggressive.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">How would Dunleavy be a Pat Garrity type player? Garrity is a 3 point specialist and Dunleavy is a brick specialist. We tried that experiment with Musselman last year and Monty this year and Dunleavy just misses way too many times. If only Dunleavy wasn't 6'9 I think he'd still have his old man's speed and be able to run that break like a real 6 foot point guard. The problem is he grew and there went his mobility. I heard he wasn't sloth like before his growth spurt. I don't know if that still solves his shooting problem. I know it's mental, but we don't have time to wait until he finally decides he wants to win. Show some fire. Be Rick Barry. Play tough and aggressive.</div> Dunleavy brick specialist. Thats the best one I've heard in days.
