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    Default Official JBB 2005 NBA Mock Draft Rnd 2 (v3.0)

    The long awaited Version 3.0 of the 2nd Round of the 2005 Draft is finally completed. Fellow JBB Members, Voodoo Child, Shapecity, and CourtKing have put together an updated list and as a bonus a new feature to the Official JBB Mock Draft, <font color="Blue">Players on the Bubble</font>.

    Over the last few weeks, the draft picture became a little more clear, but at the same time a lot of surprise players have declared. The influx of high schoolers has committed to test the NBA waters this year, in fear of a possible age limit restriction with the new CBA. So who makes the list and who finds themselves on the bubble?

    #31 ATL - John Gilchrist (Maryland, Jr., Point Guard, 6-3, 194. lbs.)
    #32 NO - Joey Graham (Oklahoma St., Sr., Small Forward, 6-7, 225 lbs.)
    #33 LAC (from CHA) - Salim Stoudamire (Arizona, Sr., Shooting Guard, 6-1, 179 lbs.)
    #34 UTAH - CJ Miles (HSSr., Shooting Guard, 6-5, 195 lbs.)
    #35 POR - Ronny Turiaf (Gonzaga, Sr., Power Forward, 6-10, 249 lbs.)
    #36 MIL - Louis Williams (HSSr., SG/PG, 6-2, 175 lbs.)
    #37 TOR - Sean Banks (Memphis, So., Small Forward, 6-8, 206 lbs.)
    #38 LAL - Daniel Ewing (Duke, Sr., Point Guard, 6-3, 185 lbs.)
    #39 GSW - Monta Ellis (HSSr., SG/PG, 6-2, 160 lbs.)
    #40 LAL - Kevin Pittsnogle (West Virginia, Jr., Center, 6-11, 250 lbs.)
    #41 ORL - Kosta Perovic (Partizan Belgrade, Center, 7-2, 242 lbs.)
    #42 LAC - Bracey Wright (Indiana, Jr., Shooting Guard, 6-3, 200 lbs.)
    #43 NJ - Linus Kleiza (Missouri, So., Power Forward, 6-8, 233 lbs.)
    #44 ORL (from CLE) - David Lee (Florida, Sr., Power Forward, 6-9, 240 lbs.)
    #45 DET (from PHI) - Alan Anderson (Michigan State, Sr., SF/SG, 6-6, 220 lbs.)
    #46 IND - Angelo Gigli (Pallacanestro Reggiana, SF/PF, 6-10, 210 lbs.)
    #47 MIN - Michael Wilkinson (Wisconsin, Sr., Power Forward, 6-8, 240 lbs.)
    #48 SEA (from MEM) - Eddie Basden (Charlotte, Sr., Shooting Guard, 6-5, 205 lbs.)
    #49 WAS - Vladimir Veremeenko (Dynamo St. Petersburg, Power Forward, 6-10, 235 lbs.)
    #50 BOS - Julius Hodge (North Carolina St., Sr., SF/SG, 6-7, 205 lbs.)
    #51 UTA (from CHI) - Mickal Gelabale (Real Madrid, Small Forward, 6-7, 175 lbs.)
    #52 DEN - Luther Head (Illinois, Sr., Shooting Guard, 6-3, 185 lbs.)
    #53 BOS (from SAC) - Shawne Williams (HSSr., SF/SG, 6-9, 210 lbs.)
    #54 NY (from HOU) - Curtis Stinson (Iowa St., So., SG/PG, 6-3, 215 lbs.)
    #55 SEA - Nate Robinson (Washington, Jr., Point Guard, 5-9, 180 lbs.)
    #56 DET - Rawle Marshall (Oakland, Sr., Shooting Guard, 6-7, 190 lbs.)
    #57 PHX (from DAL) - Anthony Roberson (Florida, Jr., Point Guard, 6-1, 180 lbs.)
    #58 TOR (from MIA) - Jawad Williams (North Carolina, Sr., Small Forward, 6-9, 220 lbs.)
    #59 ATL (from SA) - Filiberto Rivera (UTEP, Sr., Point Guard, 6-2, 175 lbs.)
    #60 UTAH (from PHX) - Mindaugas Katelynas (UT-Chattanooga, Sr., Small Forward, 6-9, 225 lbs.)

    <u>Players on the Bubble</u>
    <font size="1">(**Note players are listed in alphabetical order.)</font>

    Alex Acker (Pepperdine), Deji Akindele (Chicago St.), John Allen (Seton Hall), Kelenna Azubuike (Kentucky), Moussa Badiane (Eastern Carolina), Jose Juan Barea (Northeastern), Will Conroy (Washington), Taylor Coppenrath (Vermont), Travis Diener (Marquette), B.J. Elder (Georgia Tech), Sharrod Ford (Clemson), Deng Gai (Fairfield), Chuck Hayes (Kentucky), Chris Hill (Michigan St.), Jared Homan (Iowa St.), Keith Langford (Kansas), Rob Little (Stanford), Erazem Lorbek (Int./Michigan St.), Stefano Mancinelli (Int.), Jason Maxiell (Cincinnati), Juan Mendez (Niagra), Pops Mensah-Bonsu (George Washington), Aaron Miles (Kansas), Ellis Myles (Louisville), Andre Owens (Houston), Pierre Pierce (Iowa), Lawrence Roberts (Mississippi State), Brandon Rush (HSSr.), Ricky Shields (Rutgers), Steven Smith (La Salle), Uros Slokar (Int.), Donell Taylor (UAB), Chris Thomas (Notre Dame), Dijon Thompson (UCLA), Kelvin Torbert (Michigan St.), Chevon Troutman (Pittsburgh), Tiras Wade (La Lafayette), Von Wafer (Florida St.), Eric Williams (Wake Forest)
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    SG - Arron Afflalo - $905,200
    SF - Danilo Gallinari - $3,089,040
    PF - Kevin Love - $3,401,040
    C - Pau Gasol - $16,452,000

    Bench
    C - Ben Wallace - $1,306,455
    PF - DeAndre Jordan - $726,420
    PG - Jerryd Bayless - $2,143,080
    SG - Rod Beaubois - $1,075,440
    SG - Shannon Brown - $2,000,000
    SF - Dorrell Wright - $3,204,500
    PF - Glen Davis - $2,500,000
    SF - Kyle Korver - $5,163,640
    PG - Mike Bibby - $5,500,000
    PG - Earl Clark - $1,766,28

    Euro Stash
    PG - Sergio Llull
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    Just a little mistake, you forgot to write the Lakers have the 38th pick from ATL which is from NY.
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    Thanks for the correction, as a Laker fan I cannot believe I missed that.
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    S2 Sim League Roster

    PG - Lou Williams - $4,566,120
    SG - Arron Afflalo - $905,200
    SF - Danilo Gallinari - $3,089,040
    PF - Kevin Love - $3,401,040
    C - Pau Gasol - $16,452,000

    Bench
    C - Ben Wallace - $1,306,455
    PF - DeAndre Jordan - $726,420
    PG - Jerryd Bayless - $2,143,080
    SG - Rod Beaubois - $1,075,440
    SG - Shannon Brown - $2,000,000
    SF - Dorrell Wright - $3,204,500
    PF - Glen Davis - $2,500,000
    SF - Kyle Korver - $5,163,640
    PG - Mike Bibby - $5,500,000
    PG - Earl Clark - $1,766,28

    Euro Stash
    PG - Sergio Llull
    SF - Josh Childress

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    No problem, it happens to the best of us sometimes!

    I'm happy with the Knicks pick. Getting a nice back up point guard will be nice for us. Also we will be bringing him back to his hometown. I wish Hodge will slip to us though.
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    I thought Philly didn't give Detroit their pick yet?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting D-Mob:</div><div class="quote_post">I thought Philly didn't give Detroit their pick yet?</div>
    They just processed the transaction the other day, as part of the Theo Ratliff trade.
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    S2 Sim League Roster

    PG - Lou Williams - $4,566,120
    SG - Arron Afflalo - $905,200
    SF - Danilo Gallinari - $3,089,040
    PF - Kevin Love - $3,401,040
    C - Pau Gasol - $16,452,000

    Bench
    C - Ben Wallace - $1,306,455
    PF - DeAndre Jordan - $726,420
    PG - Jerryd Bayless - $2,143,080
    SG - Rod Beaubois - $1,075,440
    SG - Shannon Brown - $2,000,000
    SF - Dorrell Wright - $3,204,500
    PF - Glen Davis - $2,500,000
    SF - Kyle Korver - $5,163,640
    PG - Mike Bibby - $5,500,000
    PG - Earl Clark - $1,766,28

    Euro Stash
    PG - Sergio Llull
    SF - Josh Childress

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    Oh ok, thanks. Guess I didn't notice it.

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    So nobody has any comments on our mock draft other than errors we made on the team draft order?

    That must mean we did a pretty decent job.
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    I think Will Conroy will get drafted. He has been working his butt off in workouts and has been impressing scouts with his leadership ability and pure point guard skills. He'd be a very safe late 2nd round pick as he will work hard to make it in the NBA. I personally think Conroy will be drafted before Filiberto Rivera or Anthony Roberson.

    Another player on your bubble that I think should get drafted is Jason Maxiell. He's been doing the same thing Conroy is doing. He balled up at Portsmouth, and despite his lack of height, he still has raw strength and could be a Reggie Evans type player at the next level as a shorter overachiever in the key.

    As good of a 2nd round mock as you can really make though, although Nate Robinson should be higher .
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting d00d:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Will Conroy will get drafted. He has been working his butt off in workouts and has been impressing scouts with his leadership ability and pure point guard skills. He'd be a very safe late 2nd round pick as he will work hard to make it in the NBA. I personally think Conroy will be drafted before Filiberto Rivera or Anthony Roberson.

    Another player on your bubble that I think should get drafted is Jason Maxiell. He's been doing the same thing Conroy is doing. He balled up at Portsmouth, and despite his lack of height, he still has raw strength and could be a Reggie Evans type player at the next level as a shorter overachiever in the key.

    As good of a 2nd round mock as you can really make though, although Nate Robinson should be higher .</div>

    Will Conroy is a special player, and that's why we have him on the bubble, but his stock isn't as high as Roberson or Rivera's right now. No matter how hard he works, he doesn't have as good of a resume as a lot of the guys on our bubble.

    I also like Jason Maxiell. In fact, he was in our first draft of this second round mock. However, there's just too much talent in the draft right now. A lot of these kids will pull out though and make room for Maxiell, but until then, it's just too crowded. Who would you put him over in that mock draft?

    As for Nate Robinson, no matter how talented he is, he's only 5-9. Players like Robinson can really slip on draft day. Not many people want to take that kind of risk.
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    Even though I would love it, do you think Hodge will slip that far?
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    The secound round is incredibly hard to predict and I think the list is a good representation of the players' values and guys who might get picked up. With all the early entrants, a lot of NCAA seniors and juniors are at a big risk of getting pushed out.

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    orlando can do better!
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    Why would Utah waste another pick on a high school guard when Sloan would rather have a proven guy? They already had a high school bust in Deshawn Stevenson.



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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would Utah waste another pick on a high school guard when Sloan would rather have a proven guy? They already had a high school bust in Deshawn Stevenson.</div>

    The Jazz have a lot of draft picks this year, if they do keep them, they can afford to gamble on a high risk, high return prospect. The Jazz already have a proven shooting guard in Gordon Giricek, plus Kirk Snyder, and they plan to bring back Raja Bell. CJ Miles will likely be stored away on the bench to develop and he will have to earn playing time by playing solid defense. CJ Miles has a high Basketball IQ, and gives the Jazz another player that can create their own shot and enjoys taking the ball to the basket.
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    S2 Sim League Roster

    PG - Lou Williams - $4,566,120
    SG - Arron Afflalo - $905,200
    SF - Danilo Gallinari - $3,089,040
    PF - Kevin Love - $3,401,040
    C - Pau Gasol - $16,452,000

    Bench
    C - Ben Wallace - $1,306,455
    PF - DeAndre Jordan - $726,420
    PG - Jerryd Bayless - $2,143,080
    SG - Rod Beaubois - $1,075,440
    SG - Shannon Brown - $2,000,000
    SF - Dorrell Wright - $3,204,500
    PF - Glen Davis - $2,500,000
    SF - Kyle Korver - $5,163,640
    PG - Mike Bibby - $5,500,000
    PG - Earl Clark - $1,766,28

    Euro Stash
    PG - Sergio Llull
    SF - Josh Childress

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    Right, there are more roster spots than available for all the draft picks that Utah has, and thus, they're likely to be looking for future talent as well. They did a similar move with DeShawn Stevenson, who unfortunately never panned out, but was a risk that they were willing to take.

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    I think Utah would pick Ronny Turiaf before C.J. Miles. because he's big body down low that they can use. With the last pick Utah won't take Mindaugas Katelynas . His only career highlight is winning the college dunk contest. Jose Juan Barea , Taylor Coppenwrath Chris Thomas Dijon Thompson, B.J. Elder Lawerence Roberts(late-1st rounder if he came out las year", and Chevon Troutman are all players better than Mindaugas Katelynas. I also think Nate Robinson would be higher. He's the next Earl Boykins, but he's taller. He would have been a late-1st rounder last year too. What ever happen to Gerry McNamara from Syaracuse, he's was a senior year. You don't think he can play pro.



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    Jerry McNamara is a senior this season. He will have a chance in next year's draft.

    Why would they take Ronny Turiaf ahead of CJ Miles? The Utah frontline is already tough with Boozer, Humphries, and Ben Handlogten. Plus Kirilenko plays minutes at the 4 as well.

    The Jazz need to get more athletic and improve the overall speed on the team.

    The Jazz could take a lot of players over Mindaugas Katelynas, it was the last pick in the draft, and right now we have his stock higher than a fewer other players, so that's why he's there.
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    S2 Sim League Roster

    PG - Lou Williams - $4,566,120
    SG - Arron Afflalo - $905,200
    SF - Danilo Gallinari - $3,089,040
    PF - Kevin Love - $3,401,040
    C - Pau Gasol - $16,452,000

    Bench
    C - Ben Wallace - $1,306,455
    PF - DeAndre Jordan - $726,420
    PG - Jerryd Bayless - $2,143,080
    SG - Rod Beaubois - $1,075,440
    SG - Shannon Brown - $2,000,000
    SF - Dorrell Wright - $3,204,500
    PF - Glen Davis - $2,500,000
    SF - Kyle Korver - $5,163,640
    PG - Mike Bibby - $5,500,000
    PG - Earl Clark - $1,766,28

    Euro Stash
    PG - Sergio Llull
    SF - Josh Childress

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Jerry McNamara is a senior this season. He will have a chance in next year's draft.

    Why would they take Ronny Turiaf ahead of CJ Miles? The Utah frontline is already tough with Boozer, Humphries, and Ben Handlogten. Plus Kirilenko plays minutes at the 4 as well.

    The Jazz need to get more athletic and improve the overall speed on the team.

    The Jazz could take a lot of players over Mindaugas Katelynas, it was the last pick in the draft, and right now we have his stock higher than a fewer other players, so that's why he's there.</div>


    Ben Handlogten? He ain't gonna come back. He was just a fill in due to all the injuries. Then Humphries is a little undersized and he was always tired. Ronny Turiaf is also a little athletic from what i've seen of him. They can get a fast guy with the 2nd first round pick.



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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">
    #32 NO - Joey Graham (Oklahoma St., Sr., Small Forward, 6-7, 225 lbs.)</div>
    I'm not sure if I agree with this pick because many Mock Drafts have Joey Graham going in the first round in the Top 20. For him to fall all the way down to the second round seems kinda weird.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">#35 POR - Ronny Turiaf (Gonzaga, Sr., Power Forward, 6-10, 249 lbs.)</div>
    That would be a huge steal right there because I think Turiaf will have success in the NBA.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not sure if I agree with this pick because many Mock Drafts have Joey Graham going in the first round in the Top 20. For him to fall all the way down to the second round seems kinda weird.


    That would be a huge steal right there because I think Turiaf will have success in the NBA.</div>

    Check the date and the version. This is pretty old. Our latest mock draft (v4) has Graham in the first round, and our one that we're posting soon (v5) that has the new lottery order taken into consideration has Graham in the first round as well.
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    Ya VooDoo when is the V5 coming out?



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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Check the date and the version. This is pretty old. Our latest mock draft (v4) has Graham in the first round, and our one that we're posting soon (v5) that has the new lottery order taken into consideration has Graham in the first round as well.</div>
    My bad. I didn't look. Thanks for clearing it up.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">Ya VooDoo when is the V5 coming out?</div>

    All I can say is soon. Friday and Saturday both sound very realistic. We're putting a lot of work into it.
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