Horry says this spurs team could beat the Lakers and Celtics of the 80's!

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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">CLEVELAND – The seventh championship ring will go with the rest of them inside Robert Horry's house, unceremoniously dropped into a bathroom drawer.

"That way, they can all stay together," he said Wednesday.

Horry is an authority on all things NBA championships, and Big Shot Bob had a message about his San Antonio Spurs for the great Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics teams of the 1980s.

"We would beat them," he boasted.

Horry punctuated his proclamation with a laugh, understanding there was no harm stirring it up with San Antonio on the brink of sweeping the Cleveland Cavaliers in the NBA finals. Horry has had his moments in this series, including five blocked shots in Game 2. He isn't sure if he'll be back for a 16th season, but if he does, he'll return to a Spurs team that'll be the favorite to be the first to repeat champion since Horry's Shaq-Kobe Lakers won three straight titles.

"No disrespect to the guys back in the 80's and the 70's, but the guys now are so much better than those guys," Horry said. "I don't care what they say. If you look at old films, guys only went right. They turned and kept it in their right hand. Look at the things LeBron (James) can do, Tim (Duncan) can do, Tony (Parker) can do, Manu (Ginobili) can do. Little (Daniel) Gibson over there. There's no way you can compare those guys. We watched what they did and expanded on that."

Horry is right about watching the games in the 60's and early 70's, when the players favored one hand and dribbled with heads down. But the 80's? When Magic played the point? Dennis Johnson? Come on, Rob. And Daniel Gibson is doing something that no one else did in the 80's? What, make a few jumpers over two weeks of his life?

Sorry, but the 80's had far more complete players. They're bigger, faster and more athletic now, but not always better. Before expansion and salary caps, the talent wasn't so spread out. You could have three and four great players on a team for years, and that's hard to do now.

Horry's old teammate with the Lakers, Derek Fisher, was in Cleveland to talk about an NBA Players Association initiative to feed one million people in Africa this summer. Yet, he had to sigh and make a concession about who truly had dominated the decade. San Antonio's four titles in nine years, the staying power of three in the past five, has sold Fisher on the Spurs.

"I hate to say it, but they're surpassing us," said Fisher, whose Jazz lost to San Antonio in the Western Conference finals. "They have become the class of the league."

Most agree that these Spurs are the best of San Antonio's four championship teams, and yet Horry doesn't believe they measure with the Lakers' 2001 title winner. "If I had to pick one team, it would be (2001) when we swept everyone except for Philly," Horry said. "That team was pretty awesome. It was like a locomotive coming through with no brakes."

Eventually, L.A. crashed. San Antonio has a selfless star in Tim Duncan who, at 31, has a chance to be the cornerstone of more championships. Parker and Ginobili understand they are complementary parts and embrace Duncan's greatness. And Horry said he never sees his Spurs teammates wearing rings. They never talk about titles, about where they fit into history. And most of all, there's never even a suggestion jealousy over the salary or stature of the superstar.

"Money hurt that (Lakers) team," Horry said. "It came down to this guy wanted this much money, that guy wanted this much money. Those two guys (Shaq and Kobe) wanted to be the top dog and forgot about the other guys. It all boiled down to money. Money is the root of all evil sometimes.

"Sometimes you can't see the forest through the trees. They didn't win that championship against Detroit (in 2004), and they said, 'OK, (Karl) Malone you're injured, bye. (Gary) Payton, you're too old, bye. Shaq, you want too much money, bye.' "

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that's all.

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actually that's not all, I'm not laughing at the credibility of this spurs team, but did he just say Bron, Gibson, Manu, and Parker can do things that guys in the 80's couldn't???....I'll put it like this we can all agree (or at least we should) that guys like Jordan, Hakeem, Malone, Barkley, Stockton, etc. could play and be dominate players in this era today......now these same guys played in the 80's and struggled to beat the same teams that Horry is talking about...the 80's weren't 1000 years ago, it's not like the human body went through a huge evolution....Nique and Jordan are as athletic if not more than any guy in the NBA today....yes...

 

Horry's played on many championship teams and seen what elite teams play like. Most of the time I would take his word in high consideration but this is just ridiculous. The Celtics and Lakers in the 80's are arguebely the second and third best squads in NBA history behind Jordan's Bulls.

As noted in the article, Horry has to realize that he's not talking about George Mikan but he's talking about Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Not Pistol Pete but Magic Johnson, Dennis Johnson, and Isiah Thomas.

Make no mistake, this San Antonio squad would put up a fight against any elite team. However, the outcome would likely go to one of the two teams involved in the greatest rivalry of all time.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Celtics and Lakers in the 80's are arguebely the second and third best squads in NBA history behind Jordan's Bulls.

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I have them at 1 and 2 (the lakers 1 and the celtics 2).......those teams were so loaded with talent....as much as I jock the '95 Rockets we'd put up a good fight against those teams, but my money says that we lose because they were just so damn talented and deep....

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So Horry feels the 2001 Laker team would have beat this Spurs team, but thinks this Spurs team would beat the 80's Lakers and Celtics? I'm perplexed.</div>

lol I agree.....I'm going to be honest once again and just say on a team by team basis the NBA was better in the mid to late 80's and the early to mid 90's.....players were smarter, they could shoot better, play better defense, etc.......

 

no talk of the Bulls so far.....that either means everyone agree's they're the best team ever assembled or people dont consider them in the top 3.

Personally I think they'd kick the Spurs ass

 

^^^the bulls are #3 - #5 on my list....I think they'd beat this spurs team, but I also don't think they'd beat the Celtics or the Lakers of the 80s

 

great teams:

83 Sixers
86 Celtics
87 Lakers
92 Bulls
96 Bulls

If I had to say who was best, I would say 83 Sixers. All of these teams are awesome, and if you compare the talent, the bulls are far far behind the Sixers, Lakers, and Celts. The kicker is MJ- youd have to tear MJs heart out to beat him in the Finals.

 

You know Horry was just on the high after winning his 7th championship, don`t listen to him.

 

1. Bulls
2. 80s Lakers
3. 80 Celtics
4. 00s Lakers
5. 00s SPURS


RESPECT THEM!!

My gosh Dream quit hating on the darn Spurs. You've been critizing Duncan this whole playoffs and the Spurs and now you're putting them down again. They can compete with any of the great teams. Give them some respect. They're better than those 90s Rockets teams for sure

 

<div class="quote_poster">GArenas Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
As noted in the article, Horry has to realize that he's not talking about George Mikan but he's talking about Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Not Pistol Pete but Magic Johnson, Dennis Johnson, and Isiah Thomas.
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I think that Pistol Pete and Mikan oculd still be very good players today. Remember Pistol Pete had no three piont line when he played and Mikan was amazing with both hands. He would get pushed around a little now days but with the new rules he'd be shooting 15 ft's a game. Bigs just don't have offensive skills that Mikan had anymore imo

 

That is some pretty good dope that Horry is smoking now that he is San Antonio. The Lakers/Celtics in the 80 is like a dream team. Both sides are load with talents. Heck, the Lakers had an allstar and a Hall of Famer as backup.

Though I agree with some of the point Horry made. The overall talent of this era is better than in the '80, '70, '60.

 

Horry is like 63 I think hes starting to lose his memory.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They're better than those 90s Rockets teams for sure</div>

oh no he did it now, lol........to be honest they "might" beat that team from '94, but I don't see them taking down Hakeem and Clyde with Horry, Sam, Elie, Smith, etc.....Tony Parker would never avg. 30 points a game with Hakeem luring down low.......

 

Players in the 80's were not as good as they are now. Ill take someone who has won many championships word cuz from watching past games they cant do what players noadays can do. Its a fact i agree

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Players in the 80's were not as good as they are now</div>

so

Bird
Magic
Kareem
Hakeem
Michael
Dominique
Isiah
Moses
McHale
Parrish
Drexler
Malone
Stockton

aren't as good as anyone now???

 

<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">oh no he did it now, lol........to be honest they "might" beat that team from '94, but I don't see them taking down Hakeem and Clyde with Horry, Sam, Elie, Smith, etc.....Tony Parker would never avg. 30 points a game with Hakeem luring down low.......</div>

LOL, don't even say it man. That was probably the weakest period in league history. Jordan left the game and the league was in decline. The teams in 94 and 95 were weak. The Spurs have faced the Jazz (Stockton, Malone), Lakers(which they have beaten before), and the Pistons. I see the Spurs winning in 5 or 6 games over those Rockets.

 

the spurs never had to face stockton and malone in their prime.......the only truely great teams they've faced (not even in the same year ) are the Lakers, Pistons, and Suns......and that's spread out over a 9 year period................the rockets used to have to beat teams just as good (if not better) than those teams within one playoff run. 2 60 win teams (one team won 59 games...I think it was Phoenix) and 2 50 win teams....all of whom had a "realistic" shot at winning the title.

 

^ Actually the Spurs did face the Jazz in their prime. The first time they lost. When they played them the following year they won. Although the rockets faced teams with good records, they cannot compete with those Lakers teams and maybe even the Pistons team for a season (considering they beat the Lakers) The Spurs can compete with anyone (and win).

 

<div class="quote_poster">NBA MAN Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^ Actually the Spurs did face the Jazz in their prime. The first time they lost. When they played them the following year they won. Although the rockets faced teams with good records, they cannot compete with those Lakers teams and maybe even the Pistons team for a season (considering they beat the Lakers) The Spurs can compete with anyone (and win).</div>

Agreed

 

San Antonio is not new to being a good team or beating good teams, don't remind of the 90s please we lived in the 'good team not to win a ring yet' thing for so long. Yet I may be biased being a 16 years long SA fan but I think we could compete and win with what we have done in the last decade against the best from the last two decades.