Basically might as well match it since we are fucked next summer anyways because we could use Crabbe in the future as a trade asset. I say match Crabbe also because obviously he has a ton of value. Match Hark and let Meyers walk
Based on CBA rules, that trade couldn't happen until after December 15th. I do think Crabbe would have a lot of value to the Kings though, who need a long-term starting SG. Here's a possible 3-Team Trade: POR Gets: DeMarcus Cousins, Ben McLemore, Omri Caspi CHI Gets: Mason Plumlee SAC Gets: Meyers Leonard, Allen Crabbe, Noah Vonleh, '17 POR 1st, '17 CHI 1st, '18 CLE 1st Lillard (36) / Turner (12) CJ (36) / McLemore (12) Turner (18) / Harkless (20) / Aminu (10) Aminu (18) / Davis (20) / Cousins (10) Cousins (26) / Ezeli (22)
I think Sac are kinda getting robbed in this trade, Chicago has Lopez now so i'm not sure why they'll be interested in Plumlee. I hear Boston are looking for a frontcourt guy next to Horford and are willing to trade Smart. POR Gets: DeMarcus Cousins, Kosta Koufos BOS Gets: Mason Plumlee SAC Gets: Smart, Allen Crabbe, Noah Vonleh, Leonard\Aminu\Hark,'17 POR 1st, BOS pick, '18 CLE 1st Or you can cut Boston if the kings prefer Plums instead of Smart.
So Paul Allen pays 58 MIL in tax if we don't trade one of Crabbe or Plumlee within a year a half? I understand this is a team on the rise but this isn't a championship caliber team. I don't see him paying anywhere near that in tax out of pocket. Even the Russian guy bailed after the tax payments go too high. We either don't match on Crabbe or Plumlee is traded very soon.
Updated figures factoring in Turner & Ezeli signings, Napier acquisition, and Crabbe offer sheet, projecting a potential sheet for Harkless, Meyers taking QO, 2017 max for CJ, and deal starting at 15m for Plumlee in 2017. Let me know if you'd like to see how any other alterations would affect the figures.
I had to adjust because I forgot to include Napier. It's higher now. And yes, that's way too much tax to pay for a non-title team. If Crabbe is matched, he's getting traded, and Plumlee too.
I am just apparently more concerned than many others that it won't be so easy to trade Crabbe. This contract with trade kicker could be over 20 MIL to another team.
The Nets, by adding that kicker, make it tough to sign Crabbe now and trade him later. That would be a LOT for another team to take on for just an solid 3&D guy that has limited handles and passing ability. He scores almost exclusively from being assisted by other players. That doesn't come across as a near max player to me. The other issue coming is that Portland will be paying $50,000,000 to Dame and CJ out of the whole Salary Cap when neither of them can play defense. That also is a LOT of money for players that only impact one side of the ball.
You may be right, but including Plumlee might conceivably make it easier. One can hope... @Sinobas makes a good point in another thread; top-tier franchises don't tend to overpay for secondary players. Unless Crabbe is providing a significantly rare skill-set, he shouldn't be all that difficult to replace (in theory).
Yep, Crabbe would be around 20% of the cap, you just don't pay a role player anywhere near that much, easy no
If you pay $50,000 to get your 15 year old Geo Metro out of impounding, you didn't really keep an asset, you just wasted $49,500.
Yeah I don't think Crabbe can easily be traded either for that amount. If we match him then he is ours for the next 4 years. Which is not a horrible thing I can see a Dame, CJ, Turner back court at 32 minutes a piece. SF with Crabbe and Harkless at 28 and 20 But to be honest I am good either way. If Neil decides not to match based on conversations with Crabbe and his agent I think we can replace his skill set. Maybe not right away, but by next summer. Maybe even by Montero or Layman at SF or Connaughton at SG . But trading a 18-20 million dollar wing is not easy. These fantasies about Boogie are only going to break your hearts. They are unrealistic.
Not specifically responding to what you wrote, but Crabbe can't be traded without his permission for a year, period. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q44 If a team matches an offer sheet and retains its free agent, then for one year they cannot trade him without his consent, and during that year cannot trade him at all to the team that signed him to the offer sheet. They also can't trade the player in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 91). A restricted free agent's resulting contract (whether with the new team or the contract is matched by the player's prior team) cannot be amended in any manner for one year.
