How will Kobe rank in the MVP rankings next year?

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  1. lakerskb24

    lakerskb24 JBB JustBBall Member

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    IMO I think Kobe has a great chance of taking the MVP of the Year award next season. The Lakers have a way better squad and if they make it past the first round of the playoffs next season, I don't see why they wouldn't give it to him. I want to hear your opinions. Do you guys think Kobe will be MVP next season?
     
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    if he averages around 28 - 30+ points with around 7-8 assists (due to vlad's 3's) and at least 4.5 rebs a game while leading the lakers to a 48+ record and reaching the 2nd round of the playoffs then he's got it
     
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    Well they tell the MVP before the playoffs dont they?so it doesnt matter about that. And if Kobe averages 30, 5 and 5 than its his. It better be inless someone really tears it up. Like Chris Paul with all his new help.
     
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    Next Question. Do you really think Kobe has a chance of even being considered an MVP this year after what happened last year?
     
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    Regardless of weither he deserves it of not Lebroze has got that award sewn up. The powers that be have been dying to get it to him.
     
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    LeBron James most likely will get the award. Kobe needs to avg. 30/6/6 to possibly win it. I think he deserves it but he probably won't win it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe23:</div><div class="quote_post">if he averages around 28 - 30+ points with around 7-8 assists (due to vlad's 3's) and at least 4.5 rebs a game while leading the lakers to a 48+ record and reaching the 2nd round of the playoffs then he's got it</div>

    Not going to happen. People already think Vlad will be bombing three's for us, it's not going to happen. Do you really believe Kobe can almost double his assist figures just because of Vlad?

    To answer the question, no Kobe won't win MVP even if he is the outright winner. The writers will never give him that title. I think he'll average 31/6/6 throughout the season.

    I think it's crazy that we're already talking about MVP's before the season has even started.
     
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    Just a thought, what he does in the playoffs doesn't matter, so you might as well not even bring that into discussion. All the ballots are cast before the first round even tips off.

    As for his potential next year, I doubt it. He'll get his votes, but he won't win it. The media still doesn't shine the brightest of lights on him. A lot of people in the media will forever hold the rape allegations against him and will forever blame him for the breakup of the dynasty. Unless the Lakers win 55+, get a top 3 seed, and Kobe has a good year (28/6/6 at least), he doesn't have a chance. And it's really ashame in my opinion. He could outshine LeBron, Nash, Wade, all those players, have a better season, have his team do better, be the main reason for it, and still never sniff the MVP, and it's all because a lot of voters in the media have a negative view of him.
     
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    Voting will be a problem for Kobe, he must lead the Lakers to stellar season to get the nod. But it would still be a mountain to climb for him to get the MVP. A similar situation happened in another league where this certain player has 10 championship in his belt, led the league in scoring a number of times, was the league's best clutch player but never won an MVP because of voting. I've said this a number of times, I'm really not a Kobe fan but I have to give to him for what he's been doing to improve, he is a great player.
     
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    He'll never win it as long as the votes come straight from the media. Unless the Lakers can pull off 60+ wins and earn one of the top 2 spots in the conference, I cant see Kobe winning it.

    Lebron is almost a shoe in...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinsanityVC15:</div><div class="quote_post">Well they tell the MVP before the playoffs dont they?so it doesnt matter about that. And if Kobe averages 30, 5 and 5 than its his. It better be inless someone really tears it up. Like Chris Paul with all his new help.</div>Kobe averaged 35/5/5 last year and didn't get it. It was proven last year that no matter how good he is that he's not going to win it with just personal stats. His team needs to win at least 55 for him to have a chance, otherwise, it's not likely.

    And also, they don't tell the MVP before the playoffs. They cast the ballots before the playoffs but still have to count them, which usually takes through the first round.
     
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    Kobe Bryant had a career year last season and still didn't get the MVP and was actually not in a lot of writer's top 10 for the award. The sad reality is writers will not vote for a player just out of spite. I guarantee you no sportswriter in Colorado will endorse Kobe as the MVP. Even the majority of writers in LA are anti-Kobe, because they jocked Shaq.

    The MVP award has become a popularity contest, just like players who make the All-Star teams.

    What counts is what your peers think of you, and the majority of the players and coaches in the league are quick to say Kobe is the best player in the league hands down and should be MVP.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">What counts is what your peers think of you, and the majority of the players and coaches in the league are quick to say Kobe is the best player in the league hands down and should be MVP.</div>

    Being the best player in the league doesn't equal being an MVP. What majority of coaches and players said he should be MVP?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Being the best player in the league doesn't equal being an MVP. What majority of coaches and players said he should be MVP?</div>

    Yeah exactly this is what i was arguing alot last season the award is MVP most valuable player not the best player award.

    Kobe is very valuable to the lakers but for MVP your value to your team has to exceed 50 wins.
     
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    There was a bias in the voting last year. Not because he didn't win (which can at least be justified), but because he wasn't even in the top 10 for some voters.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Being the best player in the league doesn't equal being an MVP. What majority of coaches and players said he should be MVP?</div>

    There was a thread on here last season with a collection of quotes from various players naming Kobe the MVP of last season. The coaching concensus came from a polling done and listed on NBA.com or ESPN.com

    Being the best player in the league during the course of a season should ABSOLUTELY equate to being the MVP. The only other player who had arguably a better MVP season was Dirk Nowitzki.

    There is no criteria for a player to have AT LEAST 45 wins to be considered an MVP. The Lakers play in a tougher conference than Wade's Heat or LeBron's Cavs. In fact Miami's record against the elite teams in the NBA was well below .500.

    Kobe Bryant trumps Steve Nash statistically, Kobe's a superior defender, and his team's failure to win 45 games was a byproduct of a young team with limited talent.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">There was a thread on here last season with a collection of quotes from various players naming Kobe the MVP of last season. The coaching concensus came from a polling done and listed on NBA.com or ESPN.com

    Being the best player in the league during the course of a season should ABSOLUTELY equate to being the MVP. The only other player who had arguably a better MVP season was Dirk Nowitzki.

    There is no criteria for a player to have AT LEAST 45 wins to be considered an MVP. The Lakers play in a tougher conference than Wade's Heat or LeBron's Cavs. In fact Miami's record against the elite teams in the NBA was well below .500.

    Kobe Bryant trumps Steve Nash statistically, Kobe's a superior defender, and his team's failure to win 45 games was a byproduct of a young team with limited talent.</div>

    Word. Couldn't of said it any better
     
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    Like many of you said, if he didn't get it this year (his best) then why next?
     
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    no way he will win it over milt
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jefferson:</div><div class="quote_post">no way he will win it over milt</div>

    You're not funny. Care to add any intelligent comments about the debate instead of just one liners?
     

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