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So for people out there that say we lost this game..... Houston for example........ it proves that we should of made a trade or we'll never make the playoffs, or we should have drafted so-n-so, etc. The Rockets just beat the Cavs by 20. I don't think it means much. Any team can beat any other team on any given night baby. Clipps over Celtics last night. I wonder what MIXUM would be saying on the Celtic or Cavs forum!
 
Liar. One game has to make a season, otherwise why play 82?
 
Yup Texas is a big state to take down. Watching the Cavs get their asses kicked tonight definitely made me feel better about the Blazers level of play
 
HailBlazers said:
Yup Texas is a big state to take down. Watching the Cavs get their asses kicked tonight definitely made me feel better about the Blazers level of play
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It's not about what other teams do. It's about what the Blazers do.

Surely I agree the season isn't about one game. But much of the discussion lately isn't about one game. It's about the Blazers play in general. They have been beating bad teams at home, and losing on the road. It wasn't that long ago they lost to GS right before the all star break. That is a shitty team. If you can't win on the road there, you are going to struggle everywhere.
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
So for people out there that say we lost this game..... Houston for example........ it proves that we should of made a trade or we'll never make the playoffs, or we should have drafted so-n-so, etc. The Rockets just beat the Cavs by 20. I don't think it means much. Any team can beat any other team on any given night baby. Clipps over Celtics last night. I wonder what MIXUM would be saying on the Celtic or Cavs forum!
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Aktualee, may-b all et doz iz pruv that the Kavs shud uv maed a traed...
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
One game has defined several seasons. streaks and loses can all happen due to one game.
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Actually, that's false. Win-loss streaks are far less important than they are made to seem. They tend to get more focus than they deserve only because they make great soundbites and headlines, but they don't even come close to defining a season.
 
TripTango said:
Actually, that's false. Win-loss streaks are far less important than they are made to seem. They tend to get more focus than they deserve only because they make great soundbites and headlines, but they don't even come close to defining a season.
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Christmas Lakers-Blazers a few years ago?

Outlaw's one buzzerbeater is the only reason last season was considered a success. that streak prob. wouldn't have haappened w/o it.
 
TripTango said:
Actually, that's false. Win-loss streaks are far less important than they are made to seem. They tend to get more focus than they deserve only because they make great soundbites and headlines, but they don't even come close to defining a season.
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I disagree. Good teams will rip out several win streaks during a year. Those win streaks represent the consistency of play of the team. Teams that tend to win a game or two and then lose one or two, tend to be exactly that. .500 teams who struggle.
 
hasoos said:
I disagree. Good teams will rip out several win streaks during a year. Those win streaks represent the consistency of play of the team. Teams that tend to win a game or two and then lose one or two, tend to be exactly that. .500 teams who struggle.
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Yeah? Where did our big winning streak get us last year?
 
The streaks come about because of strong, consistent play -- they do not cause it.
 
hasoos said:
I disagree. Good teams will rip out several win streaks during a year. Those win streaks represent the consistency of play of the team. Teams that tend to win a game or two and then lose one or two, tend to be exactly that. .500 teams who struggle.
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Think bigger.

Good teams go on winning streaks because they are good teams.

The streaks don't actually mean anything. They are winning single games every night.

If the Lakers go on a 5 game losing streak right now it will mean absolutely nothing.


The only time a streak actually means anything is in a K.O. tournament where you have to win.... like the NCAA tournament for example.
 
TripTango said:
Yeah? Where did our big winning streak get us last year?
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You are comparing a team with one single streak and a bunch of sub .500 ball to teams to teams that regularly run off 6+ in a row several times a year. What do you think it bought us? A single streak doesn't make a team consistent, unless that somehow last all season long.
 
hasoos said:
You are comparing a team with one single streak and a bunch of sub .500 ball to teams to teams that regularly run off 6+ in a row several times a year. What do you think it bought us? A single streak doesn't make a team consistent, unless that somehow last all season long.
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So, what you're saying is that individual games and streaks don't really matter that much, it's what happens over the course of the entire season?

Agreed. :clap:
 
hasoos said:
You are comparing a team with one single streak and a bunch of sub .500 ball to teams to teams that regularly run off 6+ in a row several times a year. What do you think it bought us? A single streak doesn't make a team consistent, unless that somehow last all season long.
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You could go on 3-1 streaks all season long and have an amazing record but you never would have had a significant streak.

Streaks mean nothing.

Wurd
 
I think Houston is actually stronger w/o TMAC...permanently. They are far better defensively, especially with Battier back, and they now have enough firepower with Brooks and others to compensate for TMAC. Just my opinion...Houston gets out of the 1st round I say...
 
There is an interesting paper on the topic of streaks and "momentum" available here. The basic gist of it is that even though fans and athletes tend to subscribe to the idea of wins producing wins and losses producing more losses, there is no statistical evidence for this kind of magic streakiness. The number and duration of streaks in any given season are generally pretty close to those that would come about from a random distribution. It's a bit heavy on the statistics lingo unless you are comfortable with that kind of thing, but here's part of their key conclusion on page 8:

This research investigated the nature of winning and losing streaks over a 162 game season for the 28 MLB teams and over two 82 game seasons for the 29 NBA teams. Wins and losses were shown to be independent of the results of previous game results and winning and losing streaks were no longer than would be expected by chance. While the concept of team momentum is frequently cited and widely believed by athletes and observers of sporting contests, there was no evidence found of its existence. Even though earlier research in sport psychology found the existence of the perception of momentum, the final step of the Taylor and Demick (1994) momentum chain model is missing-there was no change in outcome resulting from athletes' belief in momentum.
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Sportscasters are particularly bad at perpetuating this kind of mythology. I wince every time Wheels or Antonio make some reference to "the law of averages catching up" to some player who has hit more free throws than they usually do -- as if those previous made attempts would somehow make them less likely to hit their next one. The simple truth is that we humans are exceptionally good at recognizing streaks and patterns, and notoriously bad at understanding their significance (or lack thereof).
 
I actually we thought we would lose both these games when the season started so I am not worried.
 
hasoos said:
It's not about what other teams do. It's about what the Blazers do.

Surely I agree the season isn't about one game. But much of the discussion lately isn't about one game. It's about the Blazers play in general. They have been beating bad teams at home, and losing on the road. It wasn't that long ago they lost to GS right before the all star break. That is a shitty team. If you can't win on the road there, you are going to struggle everywhere.
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of course golden state is a much better team at home than they are on the road and oden/aldridge were basically taken out of the game by multiple flops.
 
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