#11 worst-case scenario

[PtldPlatypus]

Assumption: General consensus is that Davis, MKG, T-Rob, Drummond, Beal, and Barnes are the top six players in the draft, and the Blazers will get one of these guys at #6.

Assumption: Board consensus seems to be that there are only four players that most Blazer fans would be generally pleased with at #11:

• Damian Lillard (Best scoring PG in the draft)
• Kendall Marshall (Best passing PG in the draft)
• Jeremy Lamb (#1/#2 SG in this draft)
• Perry Jones III (Elite level talent)

Parameters: If those 10 players listed above are in fact the top 10 players picked, who would you settle for as BPA at #11?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Depending on who we draft first, and without seeing workouts yet, I would go with Terrence Ross, John Henson, Austin Rivers, Terrence Jones or Jared Sullinger

 

[Shooter]

I don't know who the best player available at #11 would be under your scenario, but if we take Beal at #6, I don't see us taking another guard at #11.

 

[Reep]

I think they would be pretty happy with Sullinger or Henson at 11. My guess is Marshall may fall out of that list though. Unless they really want one of the top 3-4 guys, 6 and 11 may return a couple of really nice players.

11 is kind of like 6, in that it is the bottom of a tier. I think the choice will be obvious when it is time for the pick. I would love to see PJIII fall that far. He has insane skills and just needs to mature.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

My worst case scenario is that we keep the pick/player instead of trading it for a proven NBA vet.

 

[Mediocre Man]

My worst case scenario is that we keep the pick/player instead of trading it for a proven NBA vet.

What vet do you think we could get with one or both picks that would help us more than the two picks? Honest question

 

[Eastoff]

So far it seems like PF are being mentioned, how do you guys imagine JJ Hickson being involved in that scenario? Playing a starting role with rookie at backup, or not even being re-signed?

 

[Mediocre Man]

So far it seems like PF are being mentioned, how do you guys imagine JJ Hickson being involved in that scenario? Playing a starting role with rookie at backup, or not even being re-signed?

It's hard to answer any question on Hickson until the hearing in mid June to determine Bird Rights

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

What vet do you think we could get with one or both picks that would help us more than the two picks? Honest question

Lowry, Rondo, D.Williams (sign and trade?), etc.
I think we'll have lots of options and we'll know more once the playoffs are over and more trade rumors start flying... we'll have a better idea of who is available.

 

[Reep]

Right now it seems like Hickson would be the starter until a rookie displaces him. That is if we can resign Hickson.

 

[BBert]

11 is kind of like 6, in that it is the bottom of a tier. I think the choice will be obvious when it is time for the pick.

Yeah, obvious to everyone here. Then the Blazers will inexplicably draft the next Nolan Smith.

Sorry, forgot to take my happy pills this morning.

 

[Reep]

Yeah, obvious to everyone here. Then the Blazers will inexplicably draft the next Nolan Smith.

Sorry, forgot to take my happy pills this morning.

Yeah, that one will sting until and unless Smith develops into more than he is now. Like missing an unguarded layup.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yeah, that one will sting until and unless Smith develops into more than he is now. Like missing an unguarded layup.

I honestly think Nolan will end up being a solid back up combo guard that will average 10-12 minutes off the bench for 10+ years. While not great, his PER was 11.4.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I honestly think Nolan will end up being a solid back up combo guard that will average 10-12 minutes off the bench for 10+ years. While not great, his PER was 11.4.

Agree.
Wow... MM posted something a little positive!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Agree.
Wow... MM posted something a little positive!

When it is there, I post it. Unfortunately there hasn't been much positives to post about in a while. Nolan was a bad draft pick because he was taken too high by an inept front office, but that doesn't mean he won't be a contributer in the league for a while. Plus, he had Nate and Raymond Felton to learn from....Ouch. I wish I knew how to see his PER post Nate

 

[3RA1N1AC]

more than happy with sullinger at 11

 

[BBert]

I honestly think Nolan will end up being a solid back up combo guard that will average 10-12 minutes off the bench for 10+ years. While not great, his PER was 11.4.

I honestly agree with you. I still think we should have drafted Faried.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Lowry, Rondo, D.Williams (sign and trade?), etc.
I think we'll have lots of options and we'll know more once the playoffs are over and more trade rumors start flying... we'll have a better idea of who is available.

And what exactly do any of those guys alone (and forget Williams because that aint happening) do for this team's prospects of becoming true contending level teams (enough to compete with the likes of OKC, the Heat, et al.)? Honest question.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I wish I knew how to see his PER post Nate

19.3mpg
5.8 ppg
1.9 rpg
2.1 apg
1.2 TO

.392 shooting%
.267 from 3
on 6.3 shots

23 year old rookie

soooo probably not very good

he shot a little better after nate left overall, but worse from 3, basically, like crap

 

[Mediocre Man]

19.3mpg
5.8 ppg
1.9 rpg
2.1 apg
1.2 TO

.392 shooting%
.267 from 3
on 6.3 shots

23 year old rookie

soooo probably not very good

he shot a little better after nate left overall, but worse from 3, basically, like crap

Ya, like I said....nothing special, but potentially solidish

 

[3RA1N1AC]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6471/nolan-smith

and

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holl...osition=sg&league=west&page=2&qualified=false

puts nolans per at 7.82

 

[Mediocre Man]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6471/nolan-smith

and

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holl...osition=sg&league=west&page=2&qualified=false

puts nolans per at 7.82

I was looking at 82games.com

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

BPA at #11. If all the players listed earlier are gone in the Top 10, then Sullinger, T Ross, Wroten are the best players IMO.

I am not a fan of Henson, because he's too frail/thin to play big in the NBA. I am not a fan of Rivers because he is a ball hog and can't finish (yet). Sullinger is also probably a tweener in the NBA (i.e. Glen Davis).

Also - if we trade either of our picks for players....then we don't have cap space. Trading a pick for a player is equivalent to trading two for one in our case.
Our best case scenario is getting either DWill (dream) or Dragic, maybe Ilyasova or other low cost b/u player, sign Freeland and Claver cheaply, then...resigning Batum and Hickson.

DWill or Dragic / Matthews / Batum / Aldridge / Hickson
Nolan / EWill / Babbitt / Ilyasova / Freeland
Claver and our two first round picks

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I was looking at 82games.com

ahh i might have missed it, but that was his PER as a sg, his pg numbers are pure atrociousness (5.2 PER)

so the blazers drafted a below average, old, short sg. yay.

 

[Mediocre Man]

ahh i might have missed it, but that was his PER as a sg, his pg numbers are pure atrociousness (5.2 PER)

so the blazers drafted a below average, old, short sg. yay.

Oh ya. I am in no way defending the pick. Only saying he has a decent chance to be a 10-12 minute combo guard in the league for a long time

 

[DaLincolnJones]

You dont even have to look it up to know that for years the Blazers hav drafted what, twenty ? thirty ? "piont" guards, and they all have been more combo guards or short speedballs that cant shoot or pass.

They have been able to find a few nice bigs, a few wing players, but I am sick of watching them draft shitty guards. None of the guys mentioned here at 11 would be any better than the throw away crap we have selected in the past. Forget drafting a guard in this weak ass for grards draft.

 

[Blazer Freak]

It really depends with who we go with at #6, if we go small with say Lillard I would be pleased if Sullinger is still there. If not, PJIII or another solid big man would be fine. If no one that is attractive to us is there I think the best move would be to package it for 14/16 or a combination of lower firsts.

If we go big with say Drummond, I think we need to take a LONG look at Terrence Ross. My gut feeling, and from what I've already started to read (Chad Ford), he is dominating workouts and could be ranked as the top SG by the time the draft rolls around. He's got an NBA body and a great shot already and could probably be plugged in at the 2 right away.

 

[Ed O]

My worst case scenario is that we keep the pick/player instead of trading it for a proven NBA vet.

Proven NBA vets like Crawford, Felton, Camby and Wallace?

Or some other kind of proven NBA vet?

And what proven NBA vet won't eat into the cap space that we've got?

I don't think that the team is close to being a championship level team, and if we trade away a great opportunity to inject young high-upside talent then we'll almost certainly be making a big mistake.

Ed O.