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This thing is getting scarier and scarier...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091119/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_al_qaida_online

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – Increasing numbers of English-language Web sites are spreading al-Qaida's message to Muslims in the West. They translate writings and sermons once largely out of reach of English readers and often feature charismatic clerics like Anwar al-Awlaki, who exchanged dozens of e-mails with the Army psychiatrist accused of the Fort Hood shootings.

The U.S.-born al-Awlaki has been an inspiration to several militants arrested in the United States and Canada in recent years, with his Web-based sermons often turning up on their computers.

"The point is you don't have to be an official part of al-Qaida to spread hatred and sectarian views," said Evan Kohlmann, a senior investigator for the New York-based NEFA Foundation, which researches Islamic militants.

"If you look at the most influential documents in terms of homegrown terrorism cases, it's not training manuals on building bombs," Kohlmann said. "The most influential documents are the ones that are written by theological advisers, some of whom are not even official al-Qaida members."

Most of the radical Islamic sites are not run or directed by al-Qaida, but they provide a powerful tool for recruiting sympathizers to its cause of jihad, or holy war, against the United States, experts who track the activity said.

The number of English-language sites sympathetic to al-Qaida has risen from about 30 seven years ago to more than 200 recently, said Abdulmanam Almushawah, head of a Saudi government program called Assakeena, which works to combat militant Islamic Web sites.

In contrast, Arabic-language radical sites have dropped to around 50, down from 1,000 seven years ago, because of efforts by governments around the world to shut them down, he said.

Al-Qaida has long tried to reach a Western audience. Videotaped messages from its leader, Osama bin Laden, and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahri usually have English subtitles. But translations of writings and sermons that form the theological grounding for al-Qaida's ideology, along with preachers like al-Awlaki, mostly eliminate the language barrier.

Al-Awlaki's sermons have turned up on the computers of nearly every homegrown terror suspect arrested in the United States, Kohlmann said.

Members of a group of Canadian Muslims arrested in 2006 for allegedly forming a training camp and plotting bombing attacks in Toronto listened to his online calls for jihad, according to the case against them in court. According to prosecutors, an al-Awlaki sermon on jihad was among the numerous materials — including videos of beheadings — found on the computers of five men convicted in December of plotting attacks on the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey.

On his Web site and in widely circulated lectures, the 38-year-old al-Awlaki, now in hiding in Yemen, often calls on Muslims to fight against the United States, accusing it of waging war on Islam in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Nidal Hasan, who has been charged in the Fort Hood shootings, contacted al-Awlaki nearly a year ago. In an interview published in The Washington Post, al-Awlaki said he did not pressure Hasan to carry out the shooting, but after the attack, al-Awlaki praised him as a hero. U.S. investigators have said Hasan appears to have acted alone, not on orders from anyone, when he opened fire Nov. 5 at the Texas military base, killing 13.

The cleric met two of the 9/11 hijackers at mosques where he preached in the United States, and after his return to Yemen he was detained for more than a year on suspicion of involvement in a kidnapping gang. Yemeni officials released him because they could not confirm an al-Qaida link, but they say they are hunting for him again on suspicion he may have ties.
U.S. intelligence officials declined comment on the spread of English-language jihadist Web sites.

Such sites are expected to follow closely the upcoming trials of Hasan and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is accused of being a top architect of the 9/11 attacks, said Rita Katz, head of the U.S. based SITE Intelligence Group, which follows on line militant traffic. The Obama administration announced this week that Mohammed and four others will be put on trial in New York City.

Almushawah said clerics like al-Awlaki are "more dangerous than any other group." And if these clerics are jailed, "it's no big loss for al-Qaida because they don't belong to the network," he said.

Many of the sites post speeches by English-speaking clerics like al-Awlaki or, more often, translations of sermons and lectures by Arabic-speaking clerics.

One site, the Pulpit of Monotheism and Jihad links to sermons by al-Awlaki, alongside English versions of speeches by some of the top sheikhs of jihadist ideology — even some who are dead like Abdullah Azzam.

The proliferation of sites in English means "potential jihadists can know only their native language and still be radicalized," Katz said.

While al-Awlaki has become popular, "other, more prominent and influential Arabic-speaking jihadist sheikhs ... have had their works and speeches translated into English and other languages. Their works tend to be used more often by the jihadist community to justify violence," she said in an e-mail interview. Al-Awlaki "fills a void in that he can directly interact, understand and communicate with English-speaking jihadists in a way that Arabic-speaking clerics cannot."

Almushawah says most of the servers for the sites are in Britain, but they can be run from anywhere and most of them are operated and receive content from the U.S. Most of the clerics who appear on them are in the Arab world with some in France and England.

U.S. intelligence officials declined to comment on the spread of English language sites and their influence.

Saudi Arabia set up its Assakeena program after authorities found that 70 percent of al-Qaida sympathizers were drawn to the group through the Internet. In the campaign, government-backed preachers monitor 400 radical Islamic web sites and inject a more moderate message on the sites.

The campaigners also directly contact and dialogue with militants they encounter on the Web, conversations that can take weeks or months. Of 2,631 militants contacted by the group, 1,170 withdrew their support for radicals, according to the campaign. About a fifth of the militants were from Europe and North American, and the rest from Arab countries.

Assakeena — the name is Arabic for "Tranquility from God" — is part of other hearts-and-minds programs the kingdom launched to complement its crackdown on al-Qaida after the group carried out a series of attacks on foreigners and oil infrastructure in 2004.
 
Don't you see? They are learning English. That's the first step towards becoming good Americans. Next we teach them NASCAR, and then we teach them about fried chicken and sitcoms. Soon they'll be complaining about taxes and Jay Leno's new show.

We've won.

barfo
 
OOOOOOOOO....somebody there knows the universal language of planet earth...scary :sigh:
 
Don't you see? They are learning English. That's the first step towards becoming good Americans. Next we teach them NASCAR, and then we teach them about fried chicken and sitcoms. Soon they'll be complaining about taxes and Jay Leno's new show.

We've won.

barfo

Keep telling yourself that. :lol:

Muslims (Islam) want to become the one world religion. In some cases, violence is just a necessary bi-product.
 
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i for one am happy. i speak arabic well, but its a bitch to read. thanks for the links.
 
Keep telling yourself that. :lol:

Muslims (Islam) want to become the one world religion. In some cases, violence is just a necessary bi-product.

So what is the solution to all 1 billion+ Muslims wanting to be the one world religion?

You'd have to bomb the snot out of all of the Middle East, sorry Israel. And then Indonesia, parts of the Philippines, etc. etc.
 
So what is the solution to all 1 billion+ Muslims wanting to be the one world religion?

You'd have to bomb the snot out of all of the Middle East, sorry Israel. And then Indonesia, parts of the Philippines, etc. etc.

Which would pave the way perfectly for christianity to become the one world religion!
 
Keep telling yourself that. :lol:

Muslims (Islam) want to become the one world religion. In some cases, violence is just a necessary bi-product.


It may shock you to know that the vast majority of Muslims don't give a shit.


i for one am happy. i speak arabic well, but its a bitch to read. thanks for the links.

Sweet! What dialect do you speak? Are you a native speaker?
 
It may shock you to know that the vast majority of Muslims don't give a shit.

Exactly lol. Most of my family is muslim, and we're strong backers of the war against radical islamic groups, backers of the wars in iraq and afghanistan and are strongly against spreading of religion to other other people that have different faiths.

it's all about freedom, to be able to choose what you believe in or don't believe in.

myself I just believe in god, without choosing any religion. ;)
 
ABM is brainwashed....

Hey ABM DID YOU KNOW....that in the Muslim religion God said Muslim are allowed to marry Muslims, Christians, or Jews. His reasoning was/is that all those religions have the same basic fundamentals and good moral people. Hmmmm, I missed the part where he said convert or die.
 
This world will be much better off when move forward and leave all religions behind.
 
ABM is brainwashed....

Hey ABM DID YOU KNOW....that in the Muslim religion God said Muslim are allowed to marry Muslims, Christians, or Jews. His reasoning was/is that all those religions have the same basic fundamentals and good moral people. Hmmmm, I missed the part where he said convert or die.

It's not about convert or die...that's where radicalism comes into play.
 

I think his fellow corespondent was right about him...

As one correspondent wrote, "You right-wing shit-for-brains think everything's about jihad."

The story is bitching about birthrates at some point...Allow me to pull a Nostradamus for a second....

In 75 years there will be a global war on Mormons!

GTFO with this crap
 
Muslims (Islam) want to become the one world religion. In some cases, violence is just a necessary bi-product.

Yeah. Remember when the Muslims did the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades? Those crazy, violent religious nuts who want to convert everyone.

I guess it's true....no one expects the Spanish Inquisition from the Muslims.
 
I think his fellow corespondent was right about him...



The story is bitching about birthrates at some point...Allow me to pull a Nostradamus for a second....

In 75 years there will be a global war on Mormons!

GTFO with this crap

:lol:


This was more appropriate:

"We're the ones who will change you," the Norwegian imam Mullah Krekar told the Oslo newspaper Dagbladet in 2006. "Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children." As he summed it up: "Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours."
 
This was more appropriate:

As he summed it up: "Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours."

Sounds like lots of people in this country talking about capitalism. Violent sentiment, the power of ideas being transforming.
 

Interesting article though he seems to gloss over some really important factors.

So the median age is 15 on the Gaza strip. What is the % of men who are imprisoned in Israeli jails and how many are there and how would that affect the median age? What about life expectancy?

As he noted, countries have been seemingly dive bombing in births as they become more industrialized. This could be due to three factors:

1) Cost of providing for children becomes higher and therefore the parents can't afford it.
2) There is not as much need for additional children as their was in an agrarian based society.
3) The luxuries in a civilized society are more attractive than having more kids. After all, who wants to give up their big screen TV, big house, new cars, etc. to have more kids?

You could write a lengthy novel on how this all ties in to the Middle East and Islam in that area. How education leads to better jobs and greater economic impact, etc. Typically the radical Islamists come from extremely poor backgrounds with little to no education. That's why it often seems silly to just provide military aid to some countries because you're essentially trying to corral cats. The pool of available terrorists becomes larger and larger as economic and social factors are left unaddressed. Education is a prime example because there are no state sponsored school systems or when they are in operation they are complete crap. This leaves a vacuum filled by madrases that preach the jihad. And don't even start on the education of women. Heaven forbid they should learn about lifestyles or cultures that preach something other than essentially slavery.

Another interesting item to look at is Russia's birth rate. They were dwindling extremely quickly. In the last few years the government has been sponsoring mini-sweepstakes to couples who have kids in order to try and spark a resurgence of citizens.

As India and China become more industrialized and in better economic standing they'll have fewer kids, theoretically, though China has already addressed that somewhat with the one child policy. Then the the ratio of religions to people will really start to skew because you'll lose part of the Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
 
So I assume then the Obama's racist church leader is the voice of America then right. I mean he was in video and print so it must be true! :ohno:

I was grown up Muslim and I NEVER heard a single bad word towards other religions beside the fact that we thought Islam was the correct religion. The only stories I heard about opinions on America was how grateful immigrants were to be here.

Have fun wasting your time being scared of the average Muslim
 
:lol:


This was more appropriate:

Actually, I would agree.

As long as the people in those European countries tend to occupy the lower rungs and produce more children they will easily outnumber the remaining "cultures".
 
Sounds like lots of people in this country talking about capitalism. Violent sentiment, the power of ideas being transforming.

......while having children in droves to be indoctrinated with the like.............
 
So I assume then the Obama's racist church leader is the voice of America then right. I mean he was in video and print so it must be true! :ohno:

I was grown up Muslim and I NEVER heard a single bad word towards other religions beside the fact that we thought Islam was the correct religion. The only stories I heard about opinions on America was how grateful immigrants were to be here.

Have fun wasting your time being scared of the average Muslim

So, out of curiosity, feel free not to answer if it is too personal...

What economic strata would you place your parents in then (when you were growing up) and now?
 
So I assume then the Obama's racist church leader is the voice of America then right. I mean he was in video and print so it must be true! :ohno:

I was grown up Muslim and I NEVER heard a single bad word towards other religions beside the fact that we thought Islam was the correct religion. The only stories I heard about opinions on America was how grateful immigrants were to be here.

Have fun wasting your time being scared of the average Muslim

No offense in any way to you. There are just a lot of crazy things going on in the world these days and I want to at least be cognizant of the potential dangers.
 
This leaves a vacuum filled by madrases that preach the jihad.

Im not blaming you for this at all but wanted to point it out....

Its funny how the media used the word "madrasas" with "jihad"...I would think to the average American with no knowledge of the Arabic language it sort of sounds ominous. As if the word "madrasas" only goes with "jihad". Newsflash: madrasa in english is "school".

Let me take that point home.... Oregon State University is a "madrasa"

Why doesnt the media use the word "school"? Because that doesnt sound as scary, thats why
 
......while having children in droves to be indoctrinated with the like.............

Yes, that's a pretty solid part of American and European culture as well.

Having a lot of children that you pass your beliefs on to is violent?
 
So, out of curiosity, feel free not to answer if it is too personal...

What economic strata would you place your parents in then (when you were growing up) and now?

My mom was born in America, blonde hair blue eyes white girl so she really doesnt apply to this...

My dad was born in Baghdad , Iraq. Went to work in the oil industry in Kuwait from around 18-21 years old. Moved to Los Angeles with no knowledge of English or culture. Went to a school for English where his Jewish teacher told him he wouldnt amount to anything.

Got work at a gas station (yes, stereotypical) as a attendant. Worked his way up to district manager. Met my mom when she came into a gas station he managed. Got married. My mom who was a real estate agent convinced my dad to become a real estate broker. He worked his ass off, started his own firm on land he bought. Later tore down the old building on the lot and built a 55 unit hotel in the late 80's/early 90's. Did well for a year and then the defense industry in southern CA crumbled. Had to give back the hotel to the bank. He was in financial turmoil. Sold the house for a smaller one in the area. Started working strictly in real estate. Worked his ass off some more. Bought residential income property, sold our primary residence several times but staying in the area, made profit off each sale. Kicked more ass in real estate.

Now live in a 2 story 3/2bath home in Redondo Beach with ocean views. Own 4 different residential income property totaling 16 units. All of it paid off. Has a $100,000 motorhome parked out front...He is the American Dream lived.


.....And for good measure he was on the front Page of the LA Times holding an American Flag with his other Iraqi buddies celebrating the capture of Saddam when it happened
 
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Yes, that's a pretty solid part of American and European culture as well.

Having a lot of children that you pass your beliefs on to is violent?


I think the "potential" difference is, they're wanting to have as many as they can for the purpose of ideology expansion? Meanwhile, other cultures are now beginning to promote zero-population-growth (i.e. planning to keep it to two kids max).

Not entirely sure. :dunno:
 
I think the "potential" difference is, they're wanting to have as many as they can for the purpose of ideology expansion? Meanwhile, other cultures are now beginning to promote zero-population-growth (i.e. planning to keep it to two kids max).

Not entirely sure. :dunno:

To solve this problem Christians should raise their kids Jewish, Muslims will raise their kids Christian, and Christians will raise their kids Muslim....now we solved the problem...smh :crazy:


So this is what its come down to...." Look at those Muslims having families! Those bastards! Its all a ploy to take over the world! They arent in it just to have a family obviously!" :sigh:
 
So this is what its come down to...." Look at those Muslims having families! Those bastards! Its all a ploy to take over the world! They arent in it just to have a family obviously!" :sigh:

Dude, all I did was cite a quote.
 

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