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No Dame Here??? What....



Which player would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?

1. Kevin Durant, Golden State – 40%

2. Stephen Curry, Golden State – 27%

3. LeBron James, L.A. Lakers – 17%

4. Kyrie Irving, Boston – 10%

5. James Harden, Houston – 7%

Last year: Stephen Curry – 55%
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
No Dame Here??? What....



Which player would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?

1. Kevin Durant, Golden State – 40%

2. Stephen Curry, Golden State – 27%

3. LeBron James, L.A. Lakers – 17%

4. Kyrie Irving, Boston – 10%

5. James Harden, Houston – 7%

Last year: Stephen Curry – 55%
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I know he is also not listed in best PGs. They list Harden as a PG...WTF
 
No respect...honorable mentions at best
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
No Dame Here??? What....



Which player would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?

1. Kevin Durant, Golden State – 40%

2. Stephen Curry, Golden State – 27%

3. LeBron James, L.A. Lakers – 17%

4. Kyrie Irving, Boston – 10%

5. James Harden, Houston – 7%

Last year: Stephen Curry – 55%
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Westbrook not even on the list. Hahaha.
 
Wow, KAT's stock has dropped. From 1st last year to not even making the list this year:

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BNM
 
What's with all the Kyrie love? Dame had the better season last year, but Kyrie is getting votes all over the place and Dame gets mentioned once (Tied for 4th as Best Leader).

BNM
 
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I said it on draft night, that I thought both Simons and Trent Jr. were steals at where they were selected. Trent Jr. will have a more immediate impact, but in the end, Simons could end up being the steal of the entire draft.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
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I said it on draft night, that I thought both Simons and Trent Jr. were steals at where they were selected. Trent Jr. will have a more immediate impact, but in the end, Simons could end up being the steal of the entire draft.
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I can't prove it, but watching him, he seems to have that natural basketball vibe to him. I too think Simons could be special.
 
andalusian said:
I can't prove it, but watching him, he seems to have that natural basketball vibe to him. I too think Simons could be special.
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It's really kind of interesting to see what guys the GMs think are steals, so soon after the draft and before they play a single NBA game. Sort of kicking themselves in hindsight.

BNM
 
Interesting how they ranked the West teams:

Rank the top four teams in the Western Conference

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Last year: 97 percent picked Golden State to win the West. Order after the Warriors was Houston, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, Minnesota and Portland.

OKC is ranked a bit higher than I expected. Utah is ranked about where I expected, but I'm surprised they have that much separation from the lower seeds. Seeds 5-8 are all within 2% as expected.

I think it's going to be another battle in the West that comes down to which teams can stay healthy. I'm looking forward to the Blazers 'surprising' everyone again and ending up in that 3rd seed!
 
i dont see how any of the guys in the top 10 of the draft are steals, unless they're talking about they were predicting them to be top 3 n went like 9th.
 
BlayZa said:
i dont see how any of the guys in the top 10 of the draft are steals, unless they're talking about they were predicting them to be top 3 n went like 9th.
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Exactly
 
Chris Craig said:
I know he is also not listed in best PGs. They list Harden as a PG...WTF
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I consider Harden a PG. He runs that offense as much or more than CP3. Get the League Pass, THEN post!
 
BlayZa said:
i dont see how any of the guys in the top 10 of the draft are steals, unless they're talking about they were predicting them to be top 3 n went like 9th.
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It's all relative to who was picked before them. For example, I'd say Paul George was a steal at 10th in 2010, given that guys like Evan Turner, Wesley Johnson, Epke Udoh, and Al-Farouq Aminu were all taken before him. George was coming out of Cal State Fresno, and hadn't faced the same level of completion, or gotten the national exposure, as the guys who played at bigger schools.

In hindsight, George should have been taken top 3. He ranks first in WS and 3rd in points scored (in spite of missing an entire season with a broken leg) for the draft class of 2010. He was definitely a steal at #10.

Of course you can look at guys like Jimmy Butler (#30 in 2011) and Draymond Green (35th in 2012) and say they were even bigger steals, because of where they were picked, but in most drafts there is generally someone picked sound 9th or 10th that, in hindsight, should have been a top 3 pick. To me, that makes them a steal. Heck, even Dame, at #6 in 2012 could be considered a steal. He's easily one of the top 2 players of the draft class of 2012 (2nd in WS, 1st in points scored, by a wide margin).

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
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I said it on draft night, that I thought both Simons and Trent Jr. were steals at where they were selected. Trent Jr. will have a more immediate impact, but in the end, Simons could end up being the steal of the entire draft.

BNM
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I’m actually looking forward to see Michael Porter Jr. play. So hyped, then all the injuries and he slides. That dude IF healthy could be smooth!
 
42N8Bounce said:
I think it's going to be another battle in the West that comes down to which teams can stay healthy. I'm looking forward to the Blazers 'surprising' everyone again and ending up in that 3rd seed!
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That would be great, but do you REALLY think we can come in third? Talent wise?
 
Boob-No-More said:
It's all relative to who was picked before them. For example, I'd say Paul George was a steal at 10th in 2010, given that guys like Evan Turner, Wesley Johnson, Epke Udoh, and Al-Farouq Aminu were all taken before him. George was coming out of Cal State Fresno, and hadn't faced the same level of completion, or gotten the national exposure, as the guys who played at bigger schools.

In hindsight, George should have been taken top 3. He ranks first in WS and 3rd in points scored (in spite of missing an entire season with a broken leg) for the draft class of 2010. He was definitely a steal at #10.

Of course you can look at guys like Jimmy Butler (#30 in 2011) and Draymond Green (35th in 2012) and say they were even bigger steals, because of where they were picked, but in most drafts there is generally someone picked sound 9th or 10th that, in hindsight, should have been a top 3 pick. To me, that makes them a steal. Heck, even Dame, at #6 in 2012 could be considered a steal. He's easily one of the top 2 players of the draft class of 2012 (2nd in WS, 1st in points scored, by a wide margin).

BNM
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I always considered Paul Pierce a steal. Didn’t he fall to 10th?
 
HCP said:
I always considered Paul Pierce a steal. Didn’t he fall to 10th?
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Yep, and Dirk was picked 9th in that draft. Those are exactly the kind of guys I was referring to that, in hindsight, should have been top 3 picks. So yeah, steals where they were picked.

BNM
 
Man that Dirk for Tractor Trailer one has to go down as one of the worst/best trades EVER!
 
HCP said:
Man that Dirk for Tractor Trailer one has to go down as one of the worst/best trades EVER!
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Hey I know people dont like LMA around here now, but he was traded on draft night for Tyrus Thomas. Thats a similar best/worst trades. Least I know who Tractor Trailer is, I dont think Tyrus made it more the. 4-5 years...
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Hey I know people dont like LMA around here now, but he was traded on draft night for Tyrus Thomas. Thats a similar best/worst trades. Least I know who Tractor Trailer is, I dont think Tyrus made it more the. 4-5 years...
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Great trade as well. Can’t believe that year, starting off with just the #4 pick, we got LA AND BRoy!
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Hey I know people dont like LMA around here now, but he was traded on draft night for Tyrus Thomas. Thats a similar best/worst trades. Least I know who Tractor Trailer is, I dont think Tyrus made it more the. 4-5 years...
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Both lasted 7 years (technically, Tyrus Thomas played 8 seasons, but he only played 7 minutes in his 8th year, so I don't really count it). For their careers, Traylor scored 2085 points and Thomas scored 3093 points. Career PER (14.8 for Thomas and 14.5 for Traylor) and WS (13.0 for Thomas and 13.3 for Traylor) are pretty much a wash.

So, it comes down to who was traded for the better player. I think that one's pretty clear cut...

BNM
 
HCP said:
Great trade as well. Can’t believe that year, starting off with just the #4 pick, we got LA AND BRoy!
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Yep, I said it on draft night - we got the best big and the best guard in the draft. And still Stephen A. and Jon Barry were talking shit about POR not having a clue what they were doing.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Both lasted 7 years (technically, Tyrus Thomas played 8 seasons, but he only played 7 minutes in his 8th year, so I don't really count it). For their careers, Traylor scored 2085 points and Thomas scored 3093 points. Career PER (14.8 for Thomas and 14.5 for Traylor) and WS (13.0 for Thomas and 13.3 for Traylor) are pretty much a wash.

So, it comes down to who was traded for the better player. I think that one's pretty clear cut...

BNM
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Westbrook!
 
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