2020-21 NBA All-Star Voting

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Spoiler alert: Damian will not be named a starter. Book it.
 
THE HCP said:
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Son of a bitch. Steph has twice the votes Dame does. Dame is now the better player, the numbers show it but Steph for some unknown reason is a two time MVP so it was to be expected.
 
Klay has almost as many votes as CJ!!!!! Ha!!!!
 
blazerkor said:
Son of a bitch. Steph has twice the votes Dame does. Dame is now the better player, the numbers show it but Steph for some unknown reason is a two time MVP so it was to be expected.
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Curry still dominates Real Plus Minus along with LeBron James (they've been the top two for years, trading first and second). For players like Curry (and Lillard) especially, I think that stat is the most important, because it captures their "gravity"...how the attention they draw makes things easier for their teammates. I think he's still the better player. Lillard versus Doncic is a better argument, IMO.
 
If we all get on this, we could get that million votes for Dame.
 
Voting for starters is 50% fan vote, 25% players, 25% media.

Dame needs to beat out Luka. Prolly won't get the fan vote, but might get the players'. Media is tossup with all the Luka stans out there who love everything Cuban.
 
We really should've come up with a way to stuff the ballots. Find some twitter account that has a ton of stans following it and have them retweet the shit out of the hashtag or something.
 
julius said:
We really should've come up with a way to stuff the ballots. Find some twitter account that has a ton of stans following it and have them retweet the shit out of the hashtag or something.
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Those reddit dudes who ran the Gamestop stock up need something to do.
 
e_blazer said:
Those reddit dudes who ran the Gamestop stock up need something to do.
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tho honestly, it'd be much funnier if they picked some scrub to do that to. Like, vote in Meyers Leonard (since he's out all year) or Zach Collins (same).
 
illmatic99 said:
Voting for starters is 50% fan vote, 25% players, 25% media.

Dame needs to beat out Luka. Prolly won't get the fan vote, but might get the players'. Media is tossup with all the Luka stans out there who love everything Cuban.
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I don't know about loving everything Cuban, but Luka is an incredible player. I don't think it'd be a snub either way. Both Luka and Dame are playing at "All Star starter" and "All NBA first team" levels, so it could go either way.
 
chris_in_pdx said:
TBH, there shouldn't be an All-Star game this year.
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My kids all work as they are employed and required to work to support their employers existence. NBA players are employees too and paid extremely well so If their employers and FANS want then to show up to work, the need to man up as others are doing.
 
Where is Blevins?

People probably don't know whether to look for him under the guards or the forwards.
 
Hoopguru said:
My kids all work as they are employed and required to work to support their employers existence. NBA players are employees too and paid extremely well so If their employers and FANS want then to show up to work, the need to man up as others are doing.
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No job is worth mine or my family's life or long-term health. Players should at least be allowed to opt-out if they do not feel comfortable in participating. Or do you want to tell Karl Anthony-Towns to his face that he should just suck it up, shut up, and show up?
 
chris_in_pdx said:
No job is worth mine or my family's life or long-term health. Players should at least be allowed to opt-out if they do not feel comfortable in participating. Or do you want to tell Karl Anthony-Towns to his face that he should just suck it up, shut up, and show up?
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If his employers gives him the option, great.
I just got back from Safeway and people were working because they were required to work.
 
Hoopguru said:
If his employers gives him the option, great.
I just got back from Safeway and people were working because they were required to work.
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There might be a bit of a difference between a food chain worker and an NBA superstar. One having to work might be more necessary to the survival of people during a pandemic than the other. I actually don't think sports should be being played at all. We've seen how many cases have popped up in pro sports in the last year and no one has bothered to contact trace to see how much spread it's caused in the community. So why take another risk, moving a bunch of guys from their team bubbles into one petri dish of players from all over for a game that means nothing. Not exactly the model of caution that the Orlando bubble was.

So, since the players are already taking on a more strenuous workload than they originally agreed to, had a shorter off season than they originally agreed to and will make less money than they originally agreed to... maybe just maybe they shouldn't have to play in an all-star game that they haven't even agreed to... see link below (that's right, these guys were under the impression that during this unprecedentedly compact season they would get a one week break in the middle).

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...unk-contest-in-atlanta-on-march-7-per-report/
 
blazerkor said:
There might be a bit of a difference between a food chain worker and an NBA superstar. One having to work might be more necessary to the survival of people during a pandemic than the other. I actually don't think sports should be being played at all. We've seen how many cases have popped up in pro sports in the last year and no one has bothered to contact trace to see how much spread it's caused in the community. So why take another risk, moving a bunch of guys from their team bubbles into one petri dish of players from all over for a game that means nothing. Not exactly the model of caution that the Orlando bubble was.

So, since the players are already taking on a more strenuous workload than they originally agreed to, had a shorter off season than they originally agreed to and will make less money than they originally agreed to... maybe just maybe they shouldn't have to play in an all-star game that they haven't even agreed to... see link below (that's right, these guys were under the impression that during this unprecedentedly compact season they would get a one week break in the middle).

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...unk-contest-in-atlanta-on-march-7-per-report/
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I think because gas station attendants, grocery clerks, auto service centers, sporting goods stores are open to make it nice for pro athletes and others thus they should go to work out of respect and the entertainment value at this time.
Why should they be put on a pedestal just because they are multi millionaires, they should be wanting to help and do their part for bring a since of normalcy. They get the best treatment, testing. 30 guys in a gym playing basketball/ASG for national TV isnt that big a sacrifice.
 
chris_in_pdx said:
Have you lived in this country very long?
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I love sports, amateur & professional, but Ive never though of pro athletes as a cut above everyone else. These guys get paid millions for playing a game they love, they very fortunate and blessed. They could be working on a construction site, grocery store or car wash, by the way they are open too.
 
Hoopguru said:
I love sports, amateur & professional, but Ive never though of pro athletes as a cut above everyone else. These guys get paid millions for playing a game they love, they very fortunate and blessed. They could be working on a construction site, grocery store or car wash, by the way they are open too.
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I don't think of pro athletes as a cut above either, rather I was saying that sports and live entertainment for that matter (the rest of which has been put on hold) shouldn't take precedence over the health of the public. Great job earlier pointing out other places in which the government is lacking in it's ability to prioritize things but your initial post that I responded to was about grocery stores, that are essential and comparing them to an all-star game which quite obviously is not.

I think LeBron and those who have followed after him are angry about the other things that I pointed out, which are that the league and the players' union keep pushing the players further and further physically. These players don't want to play a game that has nothing to do with competition and doesn't give them time to rest so they can play the second half of this grueling season. A game that hasn't even been agreed to.

Oh and owners are not players bosses, having revenue shares... not profit shares but actual revenue shares that can decrease the players compensation, makes players partners in this business endeavor far more than they are employees. This idea that owners are the boss is always laughable. None of us care about who owns the team, we don't root for owners, we don't wear clothing endorsed by owners. The players are the league, the owners are the investors... they are partners. The players could do this without the owners a lot easier than the owners could without the players but both sides agree that they mutually benefit from each other.
 
blazerkor said:
I don't think of pro athletes as a cut above either, rather I was saying that sports and live entertainment for that matter (the rest of which has been put on hold) shouldn't take precedence over the health of the public. Great job earlier pointing out other places in which the government is lacking in it's ability to prioritize things but your initial post that I responded to was about grocery stores, that are essential and comparing them to an all-star game which quite obviously is not.

I think LeBron and those who have followed after him are angry about the other things that I pointed out, which are that the league and the players' union keep pushing the players further and further physically. These players don't want to play a game that has nothing to do with competition and doesn't give them time to rest so they can play the second half of this grueling season. A game that hasn't even been agreed to.

Oh and owners are not players bosses, having revenue shares... not profit shares but actual revenue shares that can decrease the players compensation, makes players partners in this business endeavor far more than they are employees. This idea that owners are the boss is always laughable. None of us care about who owns the team, we don't root for owners, we don't wear clothing endorsed by owners. The players are the league, the owners are the investors... they are partners. The players could do this without the owners a lot easier than the owners could without the players but both sides agree that they mutually benefit from each other.
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Dont totally agree but that's cool. I think fans do care about owners and the team the player signs a contract is an organizational asset. That asset can be traded, cut or waived. Yeah, the players union and players have sharing which is fine.
My son is a Journeyman electrician and part of the union, but he is employed by a contractor. If he's canned he can go to the hall and get work depending on seniority.

If they could go out and party and hang out they wouldn't have a problem at all with attending. I don't think they are so much concerned about covid if they are let someone else take their place. Its more about the inconvenience to them and not having the typical spotlight on them, so why participate. They should do it for the fans that fuels the machine that the NBA is. Just my personal opinion.
Good lord in my career I had to sacrifice at times too.

If they were promised a boat parade and a big ass party, they'd want to participate.
 
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