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1 out of 4 republicans want me for president!
 
Kid Rock will be the next choice they make..they are tired of candidates that get told to stop playing their music...Rock has his own music and Ted Nugents damnit!
 
How many Democrats think the DNC should nominate someone other than Biden? Less I’m guessing. Maybe self awareness is a good thing?
 
How many Democrats think the DNC should nominate someone other than Biden? Less I’m guessing. Maybe self awareness is a good thing?
How is that relevant?

This is kinda unheard of for an incumbent president
 
I'd really be curious to see how many registered Republicans (or formerly up until the past 4 years) there are in this forum, and how many (like myself) would want someone other than Trump. Honestly, I'm surprised the number is as low as 23%. Then again, I'm also amazed by how much pro-Trump commentary I see from my Facebook friends, so...:dunno:
 
I'd really be curious to see how many registered Republicans (or formerly up until the past 4 years) there are in this forum, and how many (like myself) would want someone other than Trump. Honestly, I'm surprised the number is as low as 23%. Then again, I'm also amazed by how much pro-Trump commentary I see from my Facebook friends, so...:dunno:

Put me down on that list.
No longer registered republican. Went independent, but still strong liberal republican ideologies.

I honestly still don't know what I will do, but if I saw a better option than Trump on the Red ticket, it would be a no brainer for me.

I think the thing is is I still see some of the things he did that had positive effects for the economy.

But... his demeanor....


2016 was really the peak for me. The choices we had set before us by our leaders were....less than desirable.... and ill leave it at that. I just couldn't believe neither party couldn't find anyone better than either Hilary or Don. I lost all confidence in everything that year. Including the GOP I was once part of.
 
23% of them might, but they'll still vote for him. Republicans are good at voting party line. Democrats aren't
Not sure I agree with that, I think democrats have always been better at voting party lines because of unions and social issues. I grew up in a die hard union/dem family and they basically go to their graves voting straight tickets. Im the one exception.
 
I would think that the % is just as high for Biden if not higher only because of he does seem not to be very sharp and on top of it. Sort of like the guy he's running against. I do think the pressure is exposing Joe's age which I totally understand.
This is what Im talking about. Its either lack of preparation of material or not quick enough to catch and correct himself. Its not his fault but his age.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...85-000-jobs-lost-millions-Americans-died.html
 
I'd really be curious to see how many registered Republicans (or formerly up until the past 4 years) there are in this forum, and how many (like myself) would want someone other than Trump. Honestly, I'm surprised the number is as low as 23%. Then again, I'm also amazed by how much pro-Trump commentary I see from my Facebook friends, so...:dunno:

I’d fit in the category of former Republicans who want someone other than Trump. His fans would call me a RINO, which is funny because that’s what I would call Trump.
 
Not sure I agree with that, I think democrats have always been better at voting party lines because of unions and social issues. I grew up in a die hard union/dem family and they basically go to their graves voting straight tickets. Im the one exception.

I, started watching a great show last night from Oliver Stone. First couple of episodes focused on WWII and by the end of the second episode it was all about how the Dems were basically eating themselves alive from within with the Truman Wallace VP elections, so i'm not so sure Julius is that far off the mark on this.

If you haven't watched it, I recommend it. So far, it has brought many angles that are not typically discussed or taught.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80127995
 
23% of them might, but they'll still vote for him. Republicans are good at voting party line. Democrats aren't

That's my fear come November...often times, the people who did not vote are the ones complaining about who is elected.
 
Not sure I agree with that, I think democrats have always been better at voting party lines because of unions and social issues. I grew up in a die hard union/dem family and they basically go to their graves voting straight tickets. Im the one exception.

There's probably an argument that could be made that shows both parties don't stay true, but i think democrats are more wishy washy than republicans are.
 
23% of them might, but they'll still vote for him. Republicans are good at voting party line. Democrats aren't
Not necessarily. Sounds like several of the non-Trump-fan Republicans (or semi-republicans) in here are (like me) basically voting "none of the above".
 
That's my fear come November...often times, the people who did not vote are the ones complaining about who is elected.

I wish people took voting much more seriously than they do. I know people are busy, and what not, but it's still important to vote.

On the plus side, I think most of the people who don't vote are dullards who don't know shit, so maybe it's good they don't vote. They might vote for really stupid shit.
 
That's my fear come November...often times, the people who did not vote are the ones complaining about who is elected.

If vote my mail is approved I think that dooms treump as there will be a large number of voters sending in ballots. Come November who knows what this country will look like as we have idiots all over the country ignoring any precautions and out and about as if nothing ever happened and with November being the beginning of the flu season and people ignoring the pandemic warnings this country can fall right back into the same hole we were in.
 
I, started watching a great show last night from Oliver Stone. First couple of episodes focused on WWII and by the end of the second episode it was all about how the Dems were basically eating themselves alive from within with the Truman Wallace VP elections, so i'm not so sure Julius is that far off the mark on this.

If you haven't watched it, I recommend it. So far, it has brought many angles that are not typically discussed or taught.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80127995

Look at the 00 election and the 04 elections, and the 16. 00 people didn't want to vote for Al because he was "boring" and D's didn't want to deal with Clinton overload (that and Al Gore and John Kerry both were bland candidates and ran horrible campaigns). But look at 16. If you're a D, you thought that Trump would be a horrible president, but if you were a "Bernie Democrat", your solution of avoiding Trump as president is to...not vote for the democrat?

Yes I know that 92 and 96 had Perot stealin votes, but off the top of my head I don't know which side lost more votes.
 
Not necessarily. Sounds like several of the non-Trump-fan Republicans (or semi-republicans) in here are (like me) basically voting "none of the above".

Here's my thought process. Since 1992, I've voted for 1 of the Democratic candidates. Obama in 08. The rest I just thought were bad candidates (or in the case of Obama in 12, I didn't worry about him losing and I went...actually i forget who I voted for. I usually do a write in).

In the 4 elections that Gordon Smith ran vs a D, I voted for him because twice as I liked that he put Oregon first. I wasn't a fan of the D candidates until Merkley.
 
Here's my thought process. Since 1992, I've voted for 1 of the Democratic candidates. Obama in 08. The rest I just thought were bad candidates (or in the case of Obama in 12, I didn't worry about him losing and I went...actually i forget who I voted for. I usually do a write in).

In the 4 elections that Gordon Smith ran vs a D, I voted for him because twice as I liked that he put Oregon first. I wasn't a fan of the D candidates until Merkley.
I've only been able to vote for prez since 2000. I did vote Bush both times, and (I think, I'm not certain) have gone minor party every time since.

My wife was angry with me when Merkley beat Smith because I vote for Brownlow, who received more votes in that race than Merkley's margin of victory, so she basically blamed me (and people like me) for Smith losing his seat.
 
I've only been able to vote for prez since 2000. I did vote Bush both times, and (I think, I'm not certain) have gone minor party every time since.

My wife was angry with me when Merkley beat Smith because I vote for Brownlow, who received more votes in that race than Merkley's margin of victory, so she basically blamed me (and people like me) for Smith losing his seat.

I think Smith lost due more to Bush back-lash/Republican back-lash. I don't think he was a horrible senator, and in my memory of that era, he suffered a loss due to "guilt by association".
 
If vote my mail is approved I think that dooms treump as there will be a large number of voters sending in ballots. Come November who knows what this country will look like as we have idiots all over the country ignoring any precautions and out and about as if nothing ever happened and with November being the beginning of the flu season and people ignoring the pandemic warnings this country can fall right back into the same hole we were in.

A couple of points:

1. Vote by mail is controlled by the individual election laws of the 50 states, plus DC and US territories. It’s not likely there will be a uniform application throughout the country.

2. The recent special election for the congressional seat in the California 25th District was conducted almost entirely by mail. The Republican won by 12 points. Some folks believe that vote by mail favors Republicans because it requires planning to do it and getting it in the mail by a certain date, something that may be harder for poorer folks to do.
 
I think Smith lost due more to Bush back-lash/Republican back-lash. I don't think he was a horrible senator, and in my memory of that era, he suffered a loss due to "guilt by association".
Brownlow's candidacy was based purely on Bush/Republican backlash. He was an anti-war evangelical who sued the state over a police response to his family's anti-war protest, and wanted to have Bush tried for war crimes. So both your and my wife's statements are true.
 
I think Smith lost due more to Bush back-lash/Republican back-lash. I don't think he was a horrible senator, and in my memory of that era, he suffered a loss due to "guilt by association".

This happens alot. often with little tangible connections other than party affilation.
 
A couple of points:

1. Vote by mail is controlled by the individual election laws of the 50 states, plus DC and US territories. It’s not likely there will be a uniform application throughout the country.

2. The recent special election for the congressional seat in the California 25th District was conducted almost entirely by mail. The Republican won by 12 points. Some folks believe that vote by mail favors Republicans because it requires planning to do it and getting it in the mail by a certain date, something that may be harder for poorer folks to do.

There have been new proposals put forth by congress and with this pandemic crisis it seems the most logical way to go so it's still yet to be determined how this vote will transpire. I fear what this country is going to look like in November and vote by mail seems to be the most logical way to do it despite trumps whining about an unproven voter fraud conspiracy with vote by mail. Time will tell, but it will also keep the red states from closing or moving polling stations in blue districts like they have done in the past. By the way, has the 25th district been red leaning or blue leaning in the past? I know the last election was very close and the fact that the sitting rep had to resign over sexual allegations I would think would also make big help for the republican candidate. Kind of like how Jones won in Alabama over the notorious Roy Moore in a deep red state of Alabama. Also, trump fears vote by mail so not so sure about how many republicans think vote by mail really help them that much. Maybe we will find out.
 
I wish people took voting much more seriously than they do. I know people are busy, and what not, but it's still important to vote.

On the plus side, I think most of the people who don't vote are dullards who don't know shit, so maybe it's good they don't vote. They might vote for really stupid shit.
Yeah, I got into a rather heated discussion (imagine that) 2-3 days ago concerning that very issue. IMO, I believe voting, aside from being a right given to us, is also our civic duty. Aside from voting for POTUS in November, there are also other positions up for bid at the ballot box.
 
Yeah, I got into a rather heated discussion (imagine that) 2-3 days ago concerning that very issue. IMO, I believe voting, aside from being a right given to us, is also our civic duty. Aside from voting for POTUS in November, there are also other positions up for bid at the ballot box.
This must have been an offline, IRL discussion, because the exchange we had in the forum about that was very civil.
 
This thread is supposed to be about me running for president.
 

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