23 Seconds: SWAT team raid that killed former U.S. Marine moved very fast

[bluefrog]

Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

Jose Guerena, 26, died the morning of May 5. He was asleep in his Tucson home after working a night shift at the Asarco copper mine when his wife, Vanessa, saw the armed SWAT team outside her youngest son's bedroom window.

Vanessa Guerena thought the gunman might be part of a home invasion -- especially because two members of her sister-in-law's family, Cynthia and Manny Orozco, were killed last year in their Tucson home, her lawyer, Chris Scileppi, said. She shouted for her husband in the next room, and he woke up and told his wife to hide in the closet with the child, Joel, 4.

Guerena grabbed his assault rifle and was pointing it at the SWAT team, which was trying to serve a narcotics search warrant as part of a multi-house drug crackdown, when the team broke down the door. At first the Pima County Sheriff's Office said that Guerena fired first, but on Wednesday officials backtracked and said he had not. "The safety was on and he could not fire," according to the sheriff's statement.

Tucson SWAT officers who killed ex-Marine Jose Guerena during a drug raid have said that they did not find any drugs in his home.

I'm surprised this isn't getting more press nationally

 

[Natebishop3]

I've read this before. I have a feeling it was posted a while back... or maybe I saw it on Facebook. Anyway, very sad. I think the SWAT team should be held accountable.

 

[huevonkiller]

Trying to serve a narcotics search warrant? Yet another stupid casualty resulting from the Drug War.

 

[Run BJM]

Pointing an assault rifle at an armed SWAT team probably wasn't the greatest idea. Sad story all around.

 

[huevonkiller]

They thought they were getting robbed.

Amazing we send around SWAT teams for a terrible law. I get the idea though, that we'll break into the New Pablo Escobar's house, but we create those guys with prohibition. Yeah a tragedy.

 

[MARIS61]

State-sponsored murder.

All officers involved should be facing the death penalty.

 

[Run BJM]

I guess if they were paranoid because their family was killed in their own home recently it makes sense that they're a bit on the cautious side.

But if the unlikely odds of robbers having a fully decked out swat car, a full team of people dressed in swat gear, and are armed is all true then they're going to kill whoever they want and take whatever they want anyway. Regardless, whether its a swat team or a team of robbers, if you wave an automatic weapon in their face they're going to open fire on you.

 

[huevonkiller]

"Vanessa Guerena thought the gunman might be part of a home invasion -- especially because two members of her sister-in-law's family, Cynthia and Manny Orozco, were killed last year in their Tucson home, her lawyer, Chris Scileppi, said. She shouted for her husband in the next room, "

It was already proven the SWAT officers lied. Dude the guy probably had no idea who it was, it was the middle of the night and dark. Why would someone try to take out a team of SWAT police officers by himself? That doesn't make sense.

If it was a team of robbers he really has no choice, he has a family. I wouldn't fight a bunch of robbers head-on though.

 

[MARIS61]

Had he been quicker to shoot the unidentified home invaders, and killed them defending his family, I'd still think his family should sue the police for the trauma caused by their attack.

 

[huevonkiller]

Nah man.

 

[MARIS61]

I've read this before. I have a feeling it was posted a while back... or maybe I saw it on Facebook. Anyway, very sad. I think the SWAT team should be held accountable.

Actually, you started a thread on it.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/187751...shouldn-t-be-able-to-just-come-into-your-home...

 

[Natebishop3]

I guess if they were paranoid because their family was killed in their own home recently it makes sense that they're a bit on the cautious side.

But if the unlikely odds of robbers having a fully decked out swat car, a full team of people dressed in swat gear, and are armed is all true then they're going to kill whoever they want and take whatever they want anyway. Regardless, whether its a swat team or a team of robbers, if you wave an automatic weapon in their face they're going to open fire on you.

I guarantee he couldn't see how they were dressed. When they have flashlights and strobing flashlights in your eyes down a hallway, you can't see how they're dressed.