A good indicator AV needs to be fired

[kreidertime]

He's counting on Diaz to save the team. What a slap in the face to McIlrath again. Unbelievable. It's not the scoring of your defenseman you thickheaded, french canadian moron. It's the fact that Nash, Hayes and E. Staal continue to play like pussies. and do nothing.

 

[chuckd3534]

At least Boyle will be out. I rather have McIlrath in than Diaz, agreed, but getting Boyle out is a step forward...even if it is Diaz in.

 

[kreidertime]

This is a coach who is doing crap that makes no sense. This is how you lose the team.

 

[Rangers94]

It's a move like this that shows to me that AV really has no clue. You're going to replace a defensive liability with an even worse defensive liability. If he thinks Boyle was bad, man, Diaz is gonna get destroyed out there. AV's thinking is obvious here....replace an offensive dman with another offensive dman. The issue is that that is not where our problem lies. We need our forwards to show up and we need better defensive dmen to be able to win a fucking board battle. Pittsburgh is winning all the puck battles along the boards and AV's answer is to bring in Boyle-light. Unreal.

 

[kreidertime]

I said this a while back. I would seriously consider trading McDonagh for the 2nd overall pick. I think Columbus or Edmonton if in that spot would do that. Vancouver wouldn't because they need to rebuild with more youth. Take Laine with the second overall pick. I really think Skjei with some experience will be very much like McDonagh. Put McDonagh on the Oilers and they make the playoffs. That is enormous for them.

 

[Messiah717]

LOL comedy.

 

[kreidertime]

What's comedy is what an arrogant asshole you are and you still haven't admitted you were completely wrong on this team. Try to man up for once.

 

[cagedlion]

His lineup decisions are very questionable.

 

[Messiah717]

What's comedy is what an arrogant asshole you are and you still haven't admitted you were completely wrong on this team. Try to man up for once.

When you grow up and learn to treat people with an ounce of respect you can lecture others. Until then you remain the ignorant and unintelligent mouth breather you have always been. Your quest to always try and be right regardless of the evidence of your past posts is only outdone by the fact that you have the lowest IQ around here and prove it with every tirade of insults that pour out of your mouth.

 

[kreidertime]

This type of game gets coaches fired. Can't be disputed

 

[Disturbed]

And the last game.....

 

[theProdigy223]

AV cannot and should not survive this meltdown. Bring me coach Messier.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Too bad Messier got banished in favor of AV.

 

[kreidertime]

In NY, these kind of playoff losses almost always result in the coach getting canned.

 

[theProdigy223]

In NY, these kind of playoff losses almost always result in the coach getting canned.

I havent advocated firing AV at all yet. I questioned a lot of his personnel decisions, and I STRONGLY disagreed with his treatment of McIlrath who looked great in his early extended stint. But I gave him the benefit of the doubt after the strong seasons he's had here thus far. 2 ECFs and one SCF in your first two seasons is not easy.

But these last two games...he simply cannot survive this. He should be fired today.

 

[mrmel29]

AV has to be gone. I've mentioned already Mess as coach with leetch and graves as assistants

 

[Messiah717]

AV has to be gone. I've mentioned already Mess as coach with leetch and graves as assistants

Trying to put together fantasy teams don't work and the same goes for fantasy coaching staffs. AV to three guys with no coaching experience is not the answer.

 

[chuckd3534]

Maybe AV goes and maybe he doesn't, but tough to fire a coach after one bad season when he has reached at least the ECF in his other seasons here. Might be a little unfair.

We'll see...I doubt it happens.

 

[Ranger71]

At least Diaz has an ounce of brains of when to shoot the puck. These other $5m clowns overpass or do the complete opposite most of the time. Plus they miss the net by 30 yards.

 

[panzerporter]

AV inherited the team he took to the Cup from Torts, he's going in the wrong direction. His decision to bench Lindberg/McIlrath and play Hayes/Moore/Glass and then call up a loser like Diaz show ineptitude in talent assessment. Most damaging to AV is the lack of response by his team, not just a few players. After yesterday's debacle I'm with the fire AV crowd, especially if Messier is the replacement. Torts had playoff success too and was shown the door, it's not like AV took a gang of ragtag nobodies to the Cup.

McDonough has been a lousy Captain, team effort or lack thereof is on him too. If Cindy represents the high bar for Captains talking/crying to the refs then McD is at the other end.

 

[NYR2009]

You don't have to cry to the refs in order to be a good captain. A great example is Martin St.Louis. STL was involved in the game, during the game, very vocal on the bench and I am sure in the locker room. That year you had Brad Richards, STL leading this team. Now we have Girardi, Stall, Stepan and McD leading this team and all of them are passive.

 

[cagedlion]

^^^^^Milquetoast on ice.

 

[panzerporter]

Guess the talking I wrote before crying threw you off 2009, I never see McD talking to the refs at all and the lack of calls this year (30th in PP opportunities) is an indicator of this. I agree with you about MSL, he was always talking to the refs.

The failure to improve special teams would be another knock on AV.

 

[Rangers94]

AV inherited the team he took to the Cup from Torts, he's going in the wrong direction. His decision to bench Lindberg/McIlrath and play Hayes/Moore/Glass and then call up a loser like Diaz show ineptitude in talent assessment. Most damaging to AV is the lack of response by his team, not just a few players. After yesterday's debacle I'm with the fire AV crowd, especially if Messier is the replacement. Torts had playoff success too and was shown the door, it's not like AV took a gang of ragtag nobodies to the Cup.

I agree with this and it's what I've been saying all year long. AV is to the Rangers what Gruden was to the Bucs, minus the championship. He was brought here to not blow the whole thing up, but to bring more offense while still focusing on defense. We saw that in year one and two where we succeeded under him. But this year, THIS was an AV type of system where the focus is on offense and you hope your goalie can bail you out. It is why countless good goalies under him in Vancouver looked like trash so often, because they were left out to dry while facing 40 shots a game. No goalie can survive 40 shots a game, all season long and be in great shape come playoff time. It wears on you and it showed with Hank. He was SHOT by the end of the year and especially in the playoffs. AV has to go or he needs to adapt his system (which isn't likely which is why he has to go). But most important is Nash and Staal and Girardi ALL must be gone as well. Not just one. All 3.

 

[kreidertime]

Torts was better than Renney who was a moron. AV was better than Torts who was a stubborn mule. However, I'm not sure he is the answer. I was very disappointed by they way he handled players this season.

 

[kreidertime]

Team was 1-0 with McIlrath in the playoffs. 0-4 without him. Despite the fact he didn't play a ton in that game, that stat shows how dumb AV is. You won with him in the lineup and never put him in again. This from a coach who never takes Glass out of the lineup when the team is winning yet he has nothing to do with it. Double standard that I'm sure isn't lost on the players.

 

[mrmel29]

Gorton will have a hard time shaping this team for the future if AV is a part of it. He needs to go

 

[cagedlion]

When have the Rangers had a long standing
head coach? 5 years or longer? On one hand
you can count the long standing coaches.

1. Lester Patrick 1926-1939 2 Stanley Cups
2. Frank Boucher 1939-1948 1 Stanley Cup
3. Emile Francis 65-68; 69-73; 74-75 0 Cups

That's it. Coaches have come and gone.....and
the outcome was always the same(except 1994)...
everything from 'close but no cigar' to 'finishing
below .500'.

 

[NYR2009]

How about this trade? AV, Hayes and Glass to either Ottawa or Montreal for 1st overall pick?