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Mediocre Man

Mediocre Man

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Are we ready to have one about Donovan Clingan?

He’s either

A. Still hurt, so sit his ass

B. Scouted so going through growing pains

C. Plodding big with cast iron hands and absolutely no touch around the rim
 
I think it's a combo of A and B, with a hint of C.

But I'm not worried, since it's not like he's Ha Seung Jin out there.

He really needs to have a big man coach/mentor, and spend the off season working on where he puts his hands for rebounds, and going up strong.
 
He is C, but I think he is struggling with A…visually he just seems to move differently than the first weeks of the season pre-injury. A will resolve, but C is what we’re stuck with. Fine for a backup big, disappointing for a lotto pick.
 
He is not really impactful other than shot blocking. Plodding and cannot jump. WTF would you draft a BASKETBALL player that cannot jump? It was another draft bust for Joe. He is really really bad at the draft. I don't see Scoot or DC in the league in a few years.

Trade everyone for picks.
 
Cugel said:
He is not really impactful other than shot blocking. Plodding and cannot jump. WTF would you draft a BASKETBALL player that cannot jump? It was another draft bust for Joe. He is really really bad at the draft. I don't see Scoot or DC in the league in a few years.

Trade everyone for picks.
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He's 7'3", guys who are 7'3" don't tend to jump.
 
I like Clingan. I think he's been a little more plodding since coming back from injury. However, we need to pick up a small ball C so we can dictate the mismatch and not the other way around. At the same time let's give Clingan time bfore deciding he's hit his ceiling.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Are we ready to have one about Donovan Clingan?

He’s either

A. Still hurt, so sit his ass

B. Scouted so going through growing pains

C. Plodding big with cast iron hands and absolutely no touch around the rim
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I hope this quiz is multiple choice
 
I'm not worried about Clingan I think he's bumping against the rookie wall and a fleshed out scouting book. He's going to be good but fans are impatient with young players, so I get it.
 
Dude was a 1 week wonder then completely became a bust lol
 
He was a mid lotto pick in an incredibly weak draft. I have no expectations at all.
 
It’s the kid’s freshman year and he hasn’t seen all the centers he’s going to face yet. The game is super fast for him and he’s not the strongest big man in the game anymore. I’m not declaring him a bust at all yet. Hes learning to set screens and roll but his shot blocking and rebounding are further along than his offense or man to man defense. This season he’s going to fall for pump fakes and get blown by. I’m not sure we have the greatest development staff either. I’d give him 2 seasons to show progress before I’d start to worry
 
AldoTrapani said:
Dude was a 1 week wonder then completely became a bust lol
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A "1 week wonder" whose per 36 numbers are 12.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, 3.5 blocks and 1 steal across a 28 game sample size???

No the dude is a legit 7 footer who lacks the mobility to be used in all situations but will be cleaning the glass, dunking and making the paint a no fly zone for the next decade plus whenever he's on the court. He'll probably also develop a reliable three and be a great roll man in the P&R.

Why do you have to make yourself look so silly just trying to go as negative as possible?
 
Back when plodding centers were a commodity in the league, I believe the rule of thumb if I am remembering correctly was to give anyone over 6’10” 2-3 years to develop and acclimate properly? He seems wired to be a guy who tries to fix his deficiencies so I will give him time to earn his lumps. Think his floor is a full time back up but who knows what he could grow into, I have seen some flashes so I have belief.

lastly I think I will hold off for some quality coaching, this team has had decent coaching twice this year by my count. He didn’t blow any doors off during those two but was at least a net positive in one of them.
 
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blazerkor said:
A "1 week wonder" whose per 36 numbers are 12.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, 3.5 blocks and 1 steal across a 28 game sample size???

No the dude is a legit 7 footer who lacks the mobility to be used in all situations but will be cleaning the glass, dunking and making the paint a no fly zone for the next decade plus whenever he's on the court. He'll probably also develop a reliable three and be a great roll man in the P&R.

Why do you have to make yourself look so silly just trying to go as negative as possible?
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Per 36 is a foolish stat for him since he’d collapse from exhaustion at the 32 minute mark
 
Here are concerns and positives about Clingan

you can’t improve slow feet all that much

He has shit hands

He has ZERO post moves

He refuses to dunk the ball unless lobbed

He gets pushed around under the basket on rebounds

He has a high basketball IQ

He is a good passer

You can’t teach height and reach

He seems coachable

He sets good screens when not fouling

He has great shot blocking instincts
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Here are concerns and positives about Clingan

you can’t improve slow feet all that much

He has shit hands

He has ZERO post moves

He refuses to dunk the ball unless lobbed

He gets pushed around under the basket on rebounds

He has a high basketball IQ

He is a good passer

You can’t teach height and reach

He seems coachable

He sets good screams when not fouling

He has great shot blocking instincts
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:lol:
 
I can fix Clingan with 5 words...

Meyers Leonard, big man coach!
 
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