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June 12, 2008

A 'gradual adjustment' is OK. Well, we're here, you idiot. The national average for a gallon of gas when Obama was inaugurated was $1.79/gallon for regular unleaded.

[video=youtube;5M1WlV7vafk]

12 blocks today from the White House...

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At least I can say that Obama was being honest about his wish for high gas prices, so that's a bonus.
 
The national average for a gallon of gas when Obama was inaugurated was $1.79/gallon for regular unleaded.



i'm not an obama defender but i HATE propaganda when i hear it, and the standard FSN talking point "gas has more than doubled since obama took office" is such propaganda - intentionally meant to mislead by misrepresenting the facts.

obviously the price on the day he took office was a coincidental anomaly - unjustifiably low due to the recent stock market and oil futures crash. prior to that gas had been consistently peaking at over $3 for years, and it was inevitable it would recover to at least that level. just before the crash under bush the national average peaked at $4.12.
 
i'm not an obama defender but i HATE propaganda when i hear it, and the standard FSN talking point "gas has more than doubled since obama took office" is such propaganda - intentionally meant to mislead by misrepresenting the facts.

obviously the price on the day he took office was a coincidental anomaly - unjustifiably low due to the recent stock market and oil futures crash. prior to that gas had been consistently peaking at over $3 for years, and it was inevitable it would recover to at least that level. just before the crash under bush the national average peaked at $4.12.

Correct, and Obama and the other Democrats were blaming the GOP for it. Now, we have Obama, who actually has advocated higher gas prices, as seen in the video I posted. This is what Obama wanted, isn't it? Chu said as much again last week during the congressional hearings.
 
Man, propaganda really does suck, doesn't it?

http://news.investors.com/article/604303/201203141303/oil-abundant-in-the-united-states.htm

Scarce Oil? U.S. Has 60 Times More Than Obama Claims

When he was running for the Oval Office four years ago amid $4-a-gallon gasoline prices, then-Sen. Barack Obama dismissed the idea of expanded oil production as a way to relieve the pain at the pump.

"Even if you opened up every square inch of our land and our coasts to drilling," he said. "America still has only 3% of the world's oil reserves." Which meant, he said, that the U.S. couldn't affect global oil prices.

It's the same rhetoric President Obama is using now, as gas prices hit $4 again, except now he puts the figure at 2%.

"With only 2% of the world's oil reserves, we can't just drill our way to lower gas prices," he said. "Not when we consume 20% of the world's oil."

The claim makes it appear as though the U.S. is an oil-barren nation, perpetually dependent on foreign oil and high prices unless we can cut our own use and develop alternative energy sources like algae.

U.S. Awash In Oil

But the figure Obama uses — proved oil reserves — vastly undercounts how much oil the U.S. actually contains. In fact, far from being oil-poor, the country is awash in vast quantities — enough to meet all the country's oil needs for hundreds of years.

The U.S. has 22.3 billion barrels of proved reserves, a little less than 2% of the entire world's proved reserves, according to the Energy Information Administration. But as the EIA explains, proved reserves "are a small subset of recoverable resources," because they only count oil that companies are currently drilling for in existing fields.

When you look at the whole picture, it turns out that there are vast supplies of oil in the U.S., according to various government reports. Among them:

At least 86 billion barrels of oil in the Outer Continental Shelf yet to be discovered, according to the government's Bureau of Ocean Energy Management.

About 24 billion barrels in shale deposits in the lower 48 states, according to EIA.

Up to 2 billion barrels of oil in shale deposits in Alaska's North Slope, says the U.S. Geological Survey.

Up to 12 billion barrels in ANWR, according to the USGS.

As much as 19 billion barrels in the Utah tar sands, according to the Bureau of Land Management.

Then, there's the massive Green River Formation in Wyoming, which according to the USGS contains a stunning 1.4 trillion barrels of oil shale — a type of oil released from sedimentary rock after it's heated.
 
Blaming Obama for this is hilarious. I've already showed you the fluctuation of gas prices and how its cyclical.
 
Obama Single Handily Caused the Mortgage Meltdown and Ensuing economic recession. FACT.
 
Blaming Obama for this is hilarious. I've already showed you the fluctuation of gas prices and how its cyclical.

Obama wanted higher gas prices and said so in 2008. I don't. I'm blaming him for it. Hilarious!! :MARIS61:
 
Outright derision and ridicule is the only way the Obama supporters can try to debate this issue.

Obama said on tape that gas prices needed to rise, just gradually. Gas is now $5.39/gallon by the White House.

It may be 'hilarious' to blame him for it, but based on Obama's recent approval rating, the US must be filled with a bunch of comedians.
 
Outright derision and ridicule is the only way the Obama supporters can try to debate this issue.

Obama said on tape that gas prices needed to rise, just gradually. Gas is now $5.39/gallon by the White House.

It may be 'hilarious' to blame him for it, but based on Obama's recent approval rating, the US must be filled with a bunch of comedians.

Invest in a Huffy if it irks you.
 
Obama wanted higher gas prices and said so in 2008. I don't. I'm blaming him for it. Hilarious!! :MARIS61:

He must be disappointed then, since they aren't higher.

They are currently about 40 cents a gallon lower here in Beautiful Central Oregon than the peak during the Bush years.
 
i'm not an obama defender but i HATE propaganda when i hear it, and the standard FSN talking point "gas has more than doubled since obama took office" is such propaganda - intentionally meant to mislead by misrepresenting the facts.

obviously the price on the day he took office was a coincidental anomaly - unjustifiably low due to the recent stock market and oil futures crash. prior to that gas had been consistently peaking at over $3 for years, and it was inevitable it would recover to at least that level. just before the crash under bush the national average peaked at $4.12.

Agreed.
 
To a certain degree Obama has made decisions that have effected oil/gas prices upwards, but to out and out blame him is far fetched. I think his 'argument' for higher gas prices was not a goal of his, and that if they did get so high it would spur alternative energy sources- which is not a bad thing.

I mean, I see your point, but it does kind of smack of propaganda.
 
June 12, 2008

A 'gradual adjustment' is OK. Well, we're here, you idiot. The national average for a gallon of gas when Obama was inaugurated was $1.79/gallon for regular unleaded.

[video=youtube;5M1WlV7vafk]

12 blocks today from the White House...

Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%201.42.09%20PM.png


At least I can say that Obama was being honest about his wish for high gas prices, so that's a bonus.


That Exxon is at the intersection of Pennsylvania and Rock Creek Parkway. I could never figure out who bought gas there. It was so freaking expensive when you could just run across the river and get gas for $0.50 less per gallon.
 
I'm enjoying the economic ignorance demonstrated in this thread. Here's a hint: signaling.
 
Bernanke printed money and bought T-Bills with it, to hide the real deficits Obama has run up. And it definitely pushed oil prices higher. The Arabs don't like trading their oil for devalued dollars so they demand a higher price.

http://www.gfmag.com/archives/142-o...rt-cards-2011-the-americas.html#axzz1p9835iSk

Ben Bernanke
Grade: C

Ben Bernanke deserves credit for conducting the first formal press conference by a Federal Reserve chairman. He proved himself to be a great communicator. There is little else in his conduct of monetary policy that is commendable, however. The central bank’s controversial policies have left the economy sputtering and the Fed’s balance sheet bloated. “The combination of high unemployment, high gas prices and high foreclosure rates is a terrible combination,” Bernanke said in his first press conference. “A lot of people are having a very tough time. So I can certainly understand why people are impatient.”

The Fed completed its $600 billion in treasury bond purchases on June 30, just as the economy’s soft patch was beginning to become a real worry. Meanwhile, the Fed’s easy-money policies were criticized around the world for contributing to rising commodity prices that threatened to result in broader inflation. Quantitative easing did drive the dollar down, but it also contributed to high oil prices and a rising US import bill. Meanwhile, banks can borrow at 0.25% and buy treasury bonds that yield 2.5%, pocketing the difference. This subsidy helps them to generate earnings and restore capital, but it doesn’t help small businesses that cannot get a loan.
 

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