According to Brooks, interest in Talbot is high

[kreidertime]

That one I actually believe. Sather better take advantage of that to unload Glass with Talbot which he should pretty easily be able to do. Especially to a team like Edmonton who has no leadership and is just a bunch of unprofessional, dumb kids who can't win.

Rumor was Edmonton was offering up the 16th pick in the draft.

I'd prefer

16th pick
Mark Fraser

for

Talbot
Glass

I've wanted Fraser for years. I think this kid is a late bloomer. He scored in the AHL a lot. He's got great hands and is a garbage goal guy. I just think he needs the right coach.

 

[kreidertime]

Post also talked about Boyle not retiring or asking for the trade. That's nice. They should tell him he will be traded or sitting in the stands. Then he will want a trade.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Ok you mean MattFraser...Mark Fraser is the black guy, dman... Lol I know you didn't mean him

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Brooksie said they asked about Doan at the deadline.. To me Doan is the kind of relic they needed in the playoffs... He's obsessed with Phoenix though and makes too much

 

[kreidertime]

I would have no interest in Doan. The fact he never wanted to leave Phoenix shows me he has no drive to win a cup. He basically just wants to collect a paycheck.

 

[kreidertime]

One, don't justify stupidity Al because a backup suddenly raised his value. Two, you have no idea if he will bring back a first. It's a rumor.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

so in other words I shouldn't comment on rumors but you can propose trades left and right...umm..ok..gotcha

and the morale of the story (even if they bring back a second rounder) is that eventually you trade away some players for one reason or another and get picks in return for them. Whether it is Talbot this year, possibly Haglin too...especially when you have excess in a certain position..IE small quick two way wingers

 

[chuckd3534]

I would include Glass in the deal...

 

[kreidertime]

Yep

 

[panzerporter]

I have no problem with Glass being here, he's the first legit enforcer the Rangers have had in a long time, did what he was brought here to do and did so for $200K less than the guy he replaced Derek Dorsett. James Sheppard is nowhere near as tough but I'd take Sheppard over the one-dimensional Hagelin who once again put up mediocre numbers despite his blinding speed. The Rangers future success doesn't hinge on the 8-9 minutes of ice time per game Tanner Glass gets.

 

[kreidertime]

Disagree. Some of it does. You can't have a completely worthless 4th line offensive which is what Glass makes it when you don't have a legit first or second scoring line that scores consistently in big games. The Rangers don't have that.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

Wait..glass in an enforcer? What did he enforce? Glass is useless.

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[panzerporter]

Just go to youtube and type in his name Al if you've already forgotten that Tanner drops the gloves and handles himself much better than Dorsett or Carcillo ever did.

 

[Ranger71]

I actually thought Carcillo was quite effective when he was here. I wouldn't characterize Glass as an enforcer but he will stand up to people.

 

[theProdigy223]

Carcillo scored two huge goals for us last year in the playoffs, played effective minutes for the Hawks this year and even bumped up to the third line at times when they were banged up. And he did it with a cap hit of 550k.

Tanner Glass scored one goal all season, was a complete black hole on offense, sucked the life out of the fourth line and Dom Moore, and cost us 1.45m against the cap. How anybody tries to defend this guy is mind-boggling.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Carcillo played 39 games, hopefully he gets his name on the cup

 

[theProdigy223]

Yeah he was a spare most of the year, but when called upon he did a damn good job. 4 goals 4 assists in 38 games....it would take Glass about 500 games to reach 8 points.

I have a friend who's a rabid Hawks fan, when Carcillo was bumped up to the third line for a few games and holding his own he was asking me why we let Carcillo walk when he signed so cheaply.

And dont forget my favorite Glass stat of all, 66 games, minus 12. Second worst player with at least as many games played: Dom Moore, plus 5. How that's even possible I cant begin to understand.

 

[Ranger71]

I thought they definately should've looked to re-sign Carcillo.

 

[kreidertime]

Again, what they should have done is used Lindberg or a kid on the 4th line, never signed relic Boyle and develop McIlrath. They have shown no commitment to him. All due to Av's stubborn, jackass mentality of puck movers on defense.

 

[chuckd3534]

Yeah, AV was so stubborn when Fast, Hayes, and Miller moved into regular roles this season. Man he hates the kids...LOL.

 

[panzerporter]

Hayes and Miller both improved their offensive game as the year progressed. Fast may be a step behind but he's strong defensively and stays out of the box. The Rangers much maligned farm system produced 3 solid starters last year and Lindberg's waiting in the wings with one or two defensive prospects. I don't know the league average but when you look at the Rangers roster and how many players came up through their farm system I'd say it's pretty strong.

Carcillo seemed to get the Avery treatment when he wore the blue shirt, don't know if that remained the case in Chicago but it was ridiculous how many times he was run at or slashed and then ended up in the box. I remember when he was either cross-checked or elbowed away from the puck in the Philly series and the refs put him in the box for embellishment but that was the same series that Hags was given a fighting major when he never took off his gloves or threw a punch.

 

[kreidertime]

I've always been a big supporter of our farm. All it has done is produced players consistently for 8 years. However, Sather has pretty much destroyed it by giving away 3 first round picks, a second and Duclair. The tool is now in scramble mode trying to get some of those picks back. Hopefully, he finds a GM dumb enough to overpay for a couple of our players.

 

[chuckd3534]

Serious question though...after the Yandle deal you said our farm was still strong and the idiots on HOF had no clue what they are talking about. What has changed in those 3 months dump (outside of us losing in the ECF)?

That is a serious question. I am curious why the 180 when nothing has happened to change the farm since the Yandle deal.

 

[Stepupstepan]

chuck, just let it go. Who cares what he or she said a few months ago? People change their minds all the time. It's always a roller-coaster being a fan of this organization.

 

[Ranger71]

If the team had lost to Pitt last year and Wash this year I could get onboard with saying the deals really didn't work, but when you get basically to game 6 of the SCF and pretty much the SCF again(within 20 min), those deals definately payed off a pretty good amount. Sure they didn't win, but at what point do you say Dump the deals were worth it, only if they won?Got to game 7s? I doubt they make it out of the 2nd round either of the last 2y without them.

 

[chuckd3534]

Most importantly...this is not a finished story yet. They will play hockey again in 2016 I think...I think we have as good a chance as any team to win next season...from there let the chips fall where they may.