AI's Advice to the Knicks

[Really Lost One]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Iverson visited the Wachovia Center yesterday as a show of support for newly signed restricted free agents Samuel Dal-embert and Kyle Korver and for injured restricted free agent Willie Green, but it was inevitable he would be asked about Brown.

"It's good for basketball, it's good for coach Brown - I hope it's good for coach Brown, but it makes it hard for the 76ers; it makes it hard for everybody in the East, because [the Knicks] have the best coach over there,'' the Sixers' captain said.

Advice for Stephon Marbury & Co.?

"You're playing for the best coach in the world,'' Iverson said. "Pick his brain. That's why I'm the player I am right now. He had a whole lot to do with that... just listening to him, trying to do the things he got me to do. I know, for certain guys on that team, it's going to be an experience.''

That prompted Iverson to tell a story about his experience with the U.S. Olympic team last summer.

"All those guys, after the first practice, came up to me and started hugging me; all of them,'' Iverson said. "I'm like, 'What are you hugging me for?' They said, 'We just have a lot more respect for you. You dealt with him for 6 whole years. We look at you totally different.' ''

And if some of the Knicks players call?

"I hope they don't try to contact me at all,'' Iverson said. "I want them to deal with it for what it is. I want them to go through it. At the end of the day, the end of the season, the end of practice, they're going to be that much better as players, and when their career is over they're going to say the same things I'm saying... You might not like the way he is as a person, the way he handles different situations, but as a coach, he's got my No. 1 vote.''</div>

link:http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/ba...ll/12289457.htm

 

[Miami Flash City]

I love the respect AI has for his fomer coach Larry Brown.

 

[MiamiBalla12]

Good to see AI giving advice.

 

[dlkappi3]

Looks like AI has a lot of respect for Coach Larry Brown.

 

[Bobcats]

"All those guys, after the first practice, came up to me and started hugging me; all of them,'' Iverson said. "I'm like, 'What are you hugging me for?' They said, 'We just have a lot more respect for you. You dealt with him for 6 whole years. We look at you totally different.' ''

Lol, that's a great line. It's great how much Iverson respects his old coach.

 

[playmaker15]

It's great to see how much AI respects his old coach.

 

[bbwSwish]

Wow it is good to see how much Allen Iverson respects his old coach.

Too bad they never got along in Philiadelphia and it took Larry Brown's departure for AI to realize what a good coach he was. Too bad they always disagreed when they were together. Too bad Allen Iverson never showed up to practice which is basically disrespecting your coach and teamates. But hey, at least he respects Larry Brown now that he is coaching a different team.

 

[Laker_fan]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow it is good to see how much Allen Iverson respects his old coach.

Too bad they never got along in Philiadelphia and it took Larry Brown's departure for AI to realize what a good coach he was. Too bad they always disagreed when they were together. Too bad Allen Iverson never showed up to practice which is basically disrespecting your coach and teamates. But hey, at least he respects Larry Brown now that he is coaching a different team.

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Yep, someone is seeing things clearly. Although AI has turned into a normal person now as he is a "thug" no more so I guess he has to be forgiven for at least showing some respect.

 

[Midnight Green]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow it is good to see how much Allen Iverson respects his old coach.

Too bad they never got along in Philiadelphia and it took Larry Brown's departure for AI to realize what a good coach he was.</div>
That is not entirely true. Allen and Larry got along the last two seasons, and for the better part of the 2001 dream season. They struggled getting along early, but that was not all Iverson?s fault it was both their faults. Hell had it not been for our president Allen would have become a Los Angeles Clipper years ago.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">Too bad they always disagreed when they were together. Too bad Allen Iverson never showed up to practice which is basically disrespecting your coach and teamates.</div>
Never showed up for practice? If they were the case he would not know any of the plays or anything about the offense. Allen had one huge incident after he was advised by his ?people? to give an interview about a practice he missed directly after a meeting with King and Brown in which they had gotten into a heated argument. To say he ?never? showed up for practice is a horrible hyperbole.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">But hey, at least he respects Larry Brown now that he is coaching a different team.

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Allen like I said before respected Larry for the last two seasons they were together I think there was always respect there, but respect turned to admiration those last two seasons. When Larry won the title Allen was the first call he got. When he left you saw they respected each other, because Brown compared Allen to his own off spring, and Allen called Larry the greatest coach ever.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakers_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">
Yep, someone is seeing things clearly. Although AI has turned into a normal person now as he is a "thug" no more so I guess he has to be forgiven for at least showing some respect.</div>

When was he a "thug"?

 

[bbwSwish]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">That is not entirely true. Allen and Larry got along the last two seasons, and for the better part of the 2001 dream season. They struggled getting along early, but that was not all Iverson?s fault it was both their faults. Hell had it not been for our president Allen would have become a Los Angeles Clipper years ago.


Never showed up for practice? If they were the case he would not know any of the plays or anything about the offense. Allen had one huge incident after he was advised by his ?people? to give an interview about a practice he missed directly after a meeting with King and Brown in which they had gotten into a heated argument. To say he ?never? showed up for practice is a horrible hyperbole.


Allen like I said before respected Larry for the last two seasons they were together I think there was always respect there, but respect turned to admiration those last two seasons. When Larry won the title Allen was the first call he got. When he left you saw they respected each other, because Brown compared Allen to his own off spring, and Allen called Larry the greatest coach ever.</div>
Yes Mr. Best Kept Secret.

Seriously though, Larry and Allen had their arguments and disagreements and it seems like everyone in this thread is forgetting that. Five posts in a row saying the same exact words, "It's great AI respects LB." Sorry if I exagerrated but it is partly true that AI and Brown fought sometimes in Philly.

 

[Laker_fan]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">When was he a "thug"?</div>
I ask the same question because even I was wondering when he was a "thug." But seeing as he said he is canning his thug image, I guess he thought he was at one time.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Seriously though, Larry and Allen had their arguments and disagreements and it seems like everyone in this thread is forgetting that. Five posts in a row saying the same exact words, "It's great AI respects LB." Sorry if I exagerrated but it is partly true that AI and Brown fought sometimes in Philly.</div>

Yes, people always seem to forget what really happened. It would be a nice idea that they were always friends etc. etc. but no, they had their problems and people seem to forget that. Fair enough that AI respects him now, but people shouldn't forget that things weren't always like they are now.

 

[Midnight Green]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes Mr. Best Kept Secret.

Seriously though, Larry and Allen had their arguments and disagreements and it seems like everyone in this thread is forgetting that. Five posts in a row saying the same exact words, "It's great AI respects LB." Sorry if I exagerrated but it is partly true that AI and Brown fought sometimes in Philly.</div>
Honestly, not directed at anyone specific in this thread I feel like at times when people see threads about their favorite athletes. They just say ?that's nice? or basically take the topic sentence and re-order it into their own words. That's why you did not hear anything about the Brown and Allen relationship. Anyway, you have a point that he, and Allen had their disagreements, but I believe that Allen is the one, and only ?true? product Brown has coached into the player he is today. Brown coached seven years in Philadelphia. Although, he was not Allen?s first coach he was the coach he basically aged, and matured under.

I felt like Brown and Allen?s relationship was just like Brown described it. A son and father. Larry coached him from the age of 22-27 we under Larry Allen matured into an all star caliber player and leader (something he was not early in his career). Allen really went through his growing pains under Larry unfortunately in the media it was over exaggerated, and put in the public eye 24/7. Like I said before I always felt there was respect between those two, but it really did not turn until admiration until 2001. If anyone remembers that all star game Allen won mvp, and the first words out of his mouth were ?where?s my coach?. Through the years they had their arguments just like a father and son do, but both are better now because of the effect they had on each other.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">I ask the same question because even I was wondering when he was a "thug." But seeing as he said he is canning his thug image, I guess he thought he was at one time.</div>
Did you read that article? Allen never considered himself a thug. That article was about a group of people who for some reason look at Allen as a thug because of his tattoos and cornrows. As well as the writer think if he would actually have to write an article saying something that never existed in the minds of many (the thug image) was canned.

 

[bbwSwish]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Honestly, not directed at anyone specific in this thread I feel like at times when people see threads about their favorite athletes. They just say ?that's nice? or basically take the topic sentence and re-order it into their own words. That's why you did not hear anything about the Brown and Allen relationship. Anyway, you have a point that he, and Allen had their disagreements, but I believe that Allen is the one, and only ?true? product Brown has coached into the player he is today. Brown coached seven years in Philadelphia. Although, he was not Allen?s first coach he was the coach he basically aged, and matured under. </div>
Exactly and it is basically a way of raising your post count. Those posts were the reason I brought the whole Philly relationship into this because it seemed the other posters were acting like AI and LB have never fought and were always best friends.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I felt like Brown and Allen?s relationship was just like Brown described it. A son and father. Larry coached him from the age of 22-27 we under Larry Allen matured into an all star caliber player and leader (something he was not early in his career). Allen really went through his growing pains under Larry unfortunately in the media it was over exaggerated, and put in the public eye 24/7. Like I said before I always felt there was respect between those two, but it really did not turn until admiration until 2001. If anyone remembers that all star game Allen won mvp, and the first words out of his mouth were ?where?s my coach?. Through the years they had their arguments just like a father and son do, but both are better now because of the effect they had on each other.</div>
I agree that Brown was a good coach and formed Allen Iverson into the player that he is today. I never said Brown wasn't a great coach because I honestly believe he is one of the top three coaches in the game along with Phil Jackson and Greg Popovich. I was just bringing up the fact that Iverson and Brown weren't always the perfect friends who never disagreed like some of the previous posts were suggesting.

 

[VinKanaddy]

How people can lie poker-faced... I mean we're talking about the same player who, on National TV, said that "Come on now, I don't need no practice, I'm Allen Iverson, the MVP and the best player in the game." Just wow.

 

[Mr. J]

Hopefully when it's all said and done, Marbury can have the same love for Brown that AI does. It really must say something when someone like AI breaks down in tears out of pure respect for Brown.

 

[Midnight Green]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">How people can lie poker-faced... I mean we're talking about the same player who, on National TV, said that "Come on now, I don't need no practice, I'm Allen Iverson, the MVP and the best player in the game." Just wow.

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When did he say he was the best player in the game? He said he was the franchise player.


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
Allen Iverson
If I can't practice, I can't practice. It is as simple as that. It ain't about that at all. It's easy to sum it up if you're just talking about practice. We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're talking about practice. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game last it's my last but we're talking about practice man. How silly is that?
...we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice.
Now I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about practice. We're talking about practice man. We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about practice. When you come to the arena, and you see me play, you've seen me play right, you've seen me give everything I've got, but we're talking about practice right now.
Reporter
But [not going to practice is] an issue that your coach continues to raise?
Iverson
Hey I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey it's strange to me too but we're talking about practice man, we're not even talking about the game, when it actually matters. We're talking about practice.
Reporter
Is it possible that if you practiced, not you, but you would make your teammates better?
Iverson
How in the hell can I make my teammates better by practicing?
Reporter
So they can be used to playing with you.
Iverson
They should be used to playing with me. Those are my teammates. So my game is going to deteriorate because I'm not practicing with my teammates? Is my game is going to get worse? I'm asking you, is my game going to get worse? So what about my game? Is my game going to get better because other players are hurt on my team, I mean, do that hurt me? Do you think that hurts me? I'm being honest, people are hurt on my team but does that hurt me? Does that hurt me when I go out there and play 48 minutes, does that hurt me as a player? Does that hurt me if this person is hurt or that person is hurt? Do it hurt me?</div>

I don?t see him saying he is the best player in the game anywhere there. He ahs said in many public occasions that he believes that Shaquille O?neal is the best player in the game now and too ever play the game. So obviously he does not think of himself as the best player in the league. He said as recently as this week on Steven A Smith?s show when he was asked who are the three best players in the league quote..

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Wow, you guys are killing me with this. I can?t pick three. Number one is Shaq I?m just going to put him on top, and thats it</div>

Also how you figure he lied? Can a man fake tears on national television when hearing what his former coach said about him. Allen has said at least on five separate occasions Larry Brown is the greatest coach he ever had, and in his opinion has ever coached. He was the first to call Larry to congratulate him on a world title. He had nothing but praise for Larry during the Olympics.

He complemented his coach as the main reason he had his MVP season in 2001. When he gave the ?It?s practice? speech came after an in depth meeting with Brown and King. He was hot, and was given bad advice when he was told to go meet the media. Honestly, people don?t let anything die these days. They act like they are perfect people. Allen has shown he has nothing but respect for Larry the past four seasons with constant complements, and praise. Though because of some problems he had with Larry when he was a young guy people don?t let it go. Anyone ever think it?s possible he matured?

 

[B.e.]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">How people can lie poker-faced... I mean we're talking about the same player who, on National TV, said that "Come on now, I don't need no practice, I'm Allen Iverson, the MVP and the best player in the game." Just wow.

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Uhm you just miss quoted him, your way off. Sure AI said some pretty stupid stuff, but of course he practices how do you think the 76ers have been making the playoffs all these years except the 03-04 season? I could go on and on but there is no point in defending Allen anymore. His game speaks for itself, and the fact is he is mature enough to grow from the mistakes he made as a younger player. Yes, he has tons of respect for Brown and Brown has the same amount of respect for AI. If you saw Iverson's recent interview with Stephen A Smith, you would have saw he broke down in tears when he heard Larry Brown praising Allen.

 

[Really Lost One]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post"> If you saw Iverson's recent interview with Stephen A Smith, you would have saw he broke down in tears when he heard Larry Brown praising Allen.</div>
wow!

really? i cant believe i missed that!

 

[VinKanaddy]

Ok I missed that interview with Steven A. Smith, that would've changed the way I looked at AI. My bad.

 

[Ed!]

In all seriousness, it's nice to see he has respect for LB. I'm a bit surprised he broke into tears though. I didn't know he had THAT much respect for him, but it's still nice to know.

 

[Mr. J]