AL WC game

[totus44]

8th inning was exciting....now 7-6. Should have let Gore try to steal home. That kid is fast!

 

[Messiah717]

What was a 7-3 blowout has turned into a 7-6 bottom of the ninth thriller.

 

[Messiah717]

7-7 in what has really become an incredible game in KC.

 

[Rick2583]

Still 7-7 in the 11th, I'm pulling for KC.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Amen, tho' I admire Billy Beane, I'd like to see the A's lose, as Beane cast IMO, too much of a gamble, putting all his eggs in one basket, all the chips on one hand......

If it pays off, and here we are in the bottom of the 12th, and looks like the Royals may lose.....

Hope not tho'......perhaps if Beane gets shit canned, which I don't think the A's Owners would shit can Beane, if he traded the entire team for the Mona Lisa....he'd still have his job.....tho' I'd kinda like to see Beane in NY, with the big budget the Yanx could provide, I believe Beane could resurrect another Bronx Dynasty....


BTW-If Beane wins or loses, it all Joe's Fault....LMAO....

Damn good exciting game.....

Makes me think of the Mets vs. Astro's in the NLCS in 86...a 16 inning affair, game 7....!!

Hold all Horses, the Royals have the tying run at 3rd, with One out....Go KC....!!!
Hey hey Tie Game....do you believe!!!

 

[Messiah717]

Royals tie it again as it's 8-8. What a game this is.

 

[Yankeefan5545]

Dear Mr. Beane, as much as I've enjoyed your moves this year I'm afraid in the end your team lost. I don't think your A's could beat the Angels anyway so your teams second half spin was stopped in Kansas City.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

What I'd give to see the Royals eventually kick Detroit's ass.....

The Tigers proved to me they are not fit to be in an ALCS, let alone a W.Series....

 

[cagedlion]

Terrific game. Pulling for KC. KC wins in 12 innings 9-8.
Clutch hitting on both sides. Pitching not a difference maker.

KC Royals will play LA Angels.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Dear Mr. Beane, as much as I've enjoyed your moves this year I'm afraid in the end your team lost. I don't think your A's could beat the Angels anyway so your teams second half spin was stopped in Kansas City.

Amen....,.Beane could f'k up a wet dream, and still keep his job......come to Daddy, the Yanx could use a guy of Beane's caliber, with a big budget, no telling what Beane could do in NY....bring back a dynasty? I'd think so....

Tho' as mentioned prior in other post, Beane could trade his whole team away for a bunch of A+ Minor leaguers, and the Mona Lisa, and still have his job at the end of the day....Come to Daddy in NY Money Ball...

 

[Rick2583]

Amen....,.Beane could f'k up a wet dream, and still keep his job......come to Daddy, the Yanx could use a guy of Beane's caliber, with a big budget, no telling what Beane could do in NY....bring back a dynasty? I'd think so....

Tho' as mentioned prior in other post, Beane could trade his whole team away for a bunch of A+ Minor leaguers, and the Mona Lisa, and still have his job at the end of the day....Come to Daddy in NY Money Ball...

That statement could also apply to Cashman. How he maintains to keep his job at this point is a mystery to EVERYONE except the Stiener boys.

 

[blgridesagain]

Amen....,.Beane could f'k up a wet dream, and still keep his job......come to Daddy, the Yanx could use a guy of Beane's caliber, with a big budget, no telling what Beane could do in NY....bring back a dynasty? I'd think so....

Tho' as mentioned prior in other post, Beane could trade his whole team away for a bunch of A+ Minor leaguers, and the Mona Lisa, and still have his job at the end of the day....Come to Daddy in NY Money Ball...

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His A's have won ONE playoff series since 1998 and have now lost this years WC game with an increased payroll of (30?)%....Yep, this is what the Yankees want.

Are we sure he can handle THE BIG TIME? lol

 

[yankeesince59]

^^^I'll asked the very same questions I asked you before which you typically refused to answer and simply replied with your usual compelling "blah blah blah" retort.

"1...you don't think the Yanx would be worse with Cashman on a $70 Mil budget?

2...you don't think the A's would be better with Beane and a $200+ Mil budget?

3...you don't think the Yanx would have done better the last 15+ years with Beane running the farm and using the Steins checkbook?"


http://sportstwo.com/threads/270759...-Cashman-and-the-GM-job/page2?highlight=Beane



...also from the same thread;


...and he's been doing it for years. All the while with one of the lowest payrolls year after year.

...this pretty much sums it up...long article but a good read;


http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/oak....jsp?loc=beane

"Under his watch, the A's have compiled a 1396-1194 (.539) record over the last 16 seasons, which is the third-best record in the American League and fifth best in all of baseball during that time frame. The A's have six American League West titles (2000; 2002-03; 2006; 2012-13) and secured one AL Wild Card spot (2001) during that span. His teams have posted 90 or more wins in eight of the last 14 years. The A's seven postseason appearances since the 2000 season are tied for fourth most among all Major League teams, trailing only New York-AL (12), St. Louis (10) and Atlanta (9)."


...without mumbling to yourself, maybe, just maybe, you'll answer the questions this time.

 

[totus44]

7 stolen bases....royals should be renamed the diamond thieves.

 

[blgridesagain]

^^^I'll asked the very same questions I asked you before which you typically refused to answer and simply replied with your usual compelling "blah blah blah" retort.

"1...you don't think the Yanx would be worse with Cashman on a $70 Mil budget?

2...you don't think the A's would be better with Beane and a $200+ Mil budget?

3...you don't think the Yanx would have done better the last 15+ years with Beane running the farm and using the Steins checkbook?"


http://sportstwo.com/threads/270759...-Cashman-and-the-GM-job/page2?highlight=Beane



...also from the same thread;


...and he's been doing it for years. All the while with one of the lowest payrolls year after year.

...this pretty much sums it up...long article but a good read;


http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/oak....jsp?loc=beane

"Under his watch, the A's have compiled a 1396-1194 (.539) record over the last 16 seasons, which is the third-best record in the American League and fifth best in all of baseball during that time frame. The A's have six American League West titles (2000; 2002-03; 2006; 2012-13) and secured one AL Wild Card spot (2001) during that span. His teams have posted 90 or more wins in eight of the last 14 years. The A's seven postseason appearances since the 2000 season are tied for fourth most among all Major League teams, trailing only New York-AL (12), St. Louis (10) and Atlanta (9)."


...without mumbling to yourself, maybe, just maybe, you'll answer the questions this time.

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First off - here's a question I asked YOU which was never answered from your poll thread.
My post #55
Would YOU have left Tex in the 4th\5th spot for most of the 2nd half-Sept?


You were stumbling all over the place in that thread because you just couldn't grasp and/or agree with me being in favor of shaking up this lineup, more specifically the 3-4-5 spots and voting NO on Girardi because I thought Girardi should've done it more often, on occasion...lol...you even tried to make an issue out of "more often or "on occasion". Take you pick - I doesn't matter to ME because Girardi certainly didn't do it nearly enough...if ever.


Here's the answers to your questions...and I'm only doing it to prove a point...
I don't have to answer to YOU.

1) Not necessarily.
2) Not necessarily.
3) Is Beane a scout? How many homegrown players were on this year's A's team?


There ya go - Take it or leave it.



Oh, one more question for YOU:

How many playoff series or Wild Card play-in games has Beane's A's won since 1998?

 

[yankeesince59]

...lol...nice non-committal reply...but it tells me all I need to know.

 

[yankeesince59]

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First off - here's a question I asked YOU which was never answered from your poll thread.
My post #55
Would YOU have left Tex in the 4th\5th spot for most of the 2nd half-Sept?

...oh, you mean play the "after the fact second guessing game"?...OK, in that case, No, probably not...but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything since pretty much the whole team under-performed this year.


You were stumbling all over the place in that thread because you just couldn't grasp and/or agree with me being in favor of shaking up this lineup, more specifically the 3-4-5 spots and voting NO on Girardi because I thought Girardi should've done it more often, on occasion...lol...you even tried to make an issue out of "more often or "on occasion". Take you pick - I doesn't matter to ME because Girardi certainly didn't do it nearly enough...if ever.

...would you like to start a "poll" on that?...be my guest.


Oh, one more question for YOU:

How many playoff series or Wild Card play-in games has Beane's A's won since 1998?

...so you want me to answer a question that is common knowledge?...and the only stat you've vainly used to attempt to show that Beane is somehow a bad GM?

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[blgridesagain]

.oh, you mean play the "after the fact second guessing game"?...OK, in that case, No, probably not...but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything since pretty much the whole team under-performed this year.

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I have to admit - in a weird way I kinda enjoy playing along with you...but you can get childish...or maybe you REALLY AREN'T as smart as you and I thought you were?
lol Don't get upset - it's all good....only kidding.

As for your above comment regarding the Tex question.....did you see his 2nd half stats? Horrible --- A steady decine.
Girardi just left him in the middle of the order. He (Tex) killed this team/lineup.
Just moving Tex alone out of the 4-5th spots would've been an improvement for this lineup...and you gave ME a hard time? lol

I was hoping you could appreciate Girardi trying SOMETHING else to tweak the middle of the order. And I WOULD HAVE preferred to have Ichiro, Cervelli (in days when he was in the lineup) Headley (acquired late July) and almost ANY OTHER YANKEES being used OCCASIONALLY to shake-up the lineup as long as Tex was moved out of there and to a lesser extent McCann earlier in the season. It may have taken some pressure off McCann as he clearly was pressing early on.

There were plenty of things Girardi could've/should've tried to change the dynamics of the lineup.


The results wouldn't have been any worse (IN MY OPINION) than the usual stand pat approach Girardi used and it could have indeed "lit a fire" under some of the guys.

 

[yankeesince59]

^^^...lmao...who's "upset"?...me?...why would I be upset?

...you admit you can't quantify that the results "would not have been any worse"...but you're sure the results would have been better?...great pretzel logic.

...and sorry but again, try actually reading and comprehending what I said...(" I'm not sure what that has to do with anything since pretty much the whole team under-performed this year.") ...how many other Yankee hitters equaled or exceeded their career numbers?...this teams offensive failure was a GROUP effort, and focussing on Tex alone is off the mark and laughable.

 

[Yankeefan5545]

Amen....,.Beane could f'k up a wet dream, and still keep his job......come to Daddy, the Yanx could use a guy of Beane's caliber, with a big budget, no telling what Beane could do in NY....bring back a dynasty? I'd think so....

Tho' as mentioned prior in other post, Beane could trade his whole team away for a bunch of A+ Minor leaguers, and the Mona Lisa, and still have his job at the end of the day....Come to Daddy in NY Money Ball...

I respect Beane as a GM, the guy has a knack for turning shit to shinola. I've always wondered what would happen if he was the Yankees GM, no doubt he'd write smaller checks for better talent than Brain Cashman.

 

[Rick2583]

I respect Beane as a GM, the guy has a knack for turning shit to shinola. I've always wondered what would happen if he was the Yankees GM, no doubt he'd write smaller checks for better talent than Brain Cashman.

And THAT would be the biggest difference. Well put.

 

[yankeesince59]

I respect Beane as a GM, the guy has a knack for turning shit to shinola. I've always wondered what would happen if he was the Yankees GM, no doubt he'd write smaller checks for better talent than Brain Cashman.

...^^^ yup, and I'm still waiting for the other poster to either explain or dispute this;

http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/oak....jsp?loc=beane

"Under his watch, the A's have compiled a 1396-1194 (.539) record over the last 16 seasons, which is the third-best record in the American League and fifth best in all of baseball during that time frame. The A's have six American League West titles (2000; 2002-03; 2006; 2012-13) and secured one AL Wild Card spot (2001) during that span. His teams have posted 90 or more wins in eight of the last 14 years. The A's seven postseason appearances since the 2000 season are tied for fourth most among all Major League teams, trailing only New York-AL (12), St. Louis (10) and Atlanta (9)."


...but only because the A's have not fared well in the PS, Beane should not be considered a very good and very competent GM? He's a very good evaluator of talent and widely regarded by many to be one of the very best GMs in the game.

 

[yankeesince59]

And THAT would be the biggest difference. Well put.

...I was told "not necessarily".

 

[blgridesagain]

.you admit you can't quantify that the results "would not have been any worse"...but you're sure the results would have been better?...great pretzel logic.

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"Can't quantify"? "Can't quantify?"
Don't get cute with me...I'm on to your word games.
I did say it couldn't have been worse (imo)...
....and speaking of comprehension, if I said and BELIEVE it couldn't have been worse....most normal grown-ups would have figured out that it WAS WORTH THE CHANCE. dope lmao
Here are my exact comments from the above post (#18) you tried to quote from.


Just moving Tex alone out of the 4-5th spots would've been an improvement for this lineup...and you gave ME a hard time? lol

Here genius -QUANTIFY THIS: Tex' 2nd half stats .179 .271 .302

The results wouldn't have been any worse (IN MY OPINION) than the usual stand pat approach Girardi used and it could have indeed "lit a fire" under some of the guys.

Read it again... it could have indeed "lit a fire" under some of the guys.
No guarantees, of course. dope. could have

But it was WORTH A TRY.


Now get the heck outta here, I just clobbered you again.

 

[Messiah717]

Is he broken down and declining or does he need a fire lit under him? Again, the sluggers didn't perform and frankly nobody hit on a consistent basis on this team. Next year a healthy Beltran should go out and have a good season. Will that mean he had a fire lit under him?

 

[blgridesagain]

memo to '59

Allow me to quantity a couple of things:

Tex hit 2 HRs in August, and 2 HRs in September with a grand total of 12 RBI for the two months.
His OBP was .276 in August and .256 in September.
His SLG% was .307 in August and .301 in September.

 

[Rick2583]

memo to '59

Allow me to quantity a couple of things:

Tex hit 2 HRs in August, and 2 HRs in September with a grand total of 12 RBI for the two months.
His OBP was .276 in August and .256 in September.
His SLG% was .307 in August and .301 in September.

Was that Joe's fault? The guy is just in decline & apparently doing very little to make adjustments & help the team.

Its a shame Joe can't set up a cursing jar, you know, you say a curse word you put a dollar in the jar. In Teixeira's case, every time he doesn't take the extra easy hit to an open left side of the field Tex puts a thousand or 5 thousand into a jar for charity.

 

[yankeesince59]

Is he broken down and declining or does he need a fire lit under him? Again, the sluggers didn't perform and frankly nobody hit on a consistent basis on this team. Next year a healthy Beltran should go out and have a good season. Will that mean he had a fire lit under him?

...^^^this

 

[yankeesince59]

memo to '59

Allow me to quantity a couple of things:

Tex hit 2 HRs in August, and 2 HRs in September with a grand total of 12 RBI for the two months.
His OBP was .276 in August and .256 in September.
His SLG% was .307 in August and .301 in September.

..."quantity"?...huh.

...and I'm pretty sure everyone is well aware of Tex'x offensive shortcomings...not exactly news.


...for the umpteenth time, and as pointed out by others, even if Tex had played better or even if he had been moved down in the order, it would not be enough to offset the others who under-performed. Should not be a hard concept to grasp.

 

[yankeesince59]

Was that Joe's fault? The guy is just in decline & apparently doing very little to make adjustments & help the team.

Its a shame Joe can't set up a cursing jar, you know, you say a curse word you put a dollar in the jar. In Teixeira's case, every time he doesn't take the extra easy hit to an open left side of the field Tex puts a thousand or 5 thousand into a jar for charity.

...ditto on it not being Girardi's fault...fwiw, the "curse jar" is a great idea.