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Do you think BRoy will EVER start in an All-Star game? I mean the kind of season he his having and he is 11th in the west for votes!?!?! Remember Clyde never started a game either.
 
Nope. He always have to be a coaches selection ... that is unless he starts doing the Cheik Samb "in your face" routine about twice a game.
 
The only way he'll ever start is if he plays for the Knicks or the Lakers.
 
I think he eventually get a start. What he needs is an extended run in the playoffs.
 
He might start if we win a couple of championships. Until then no.
 
Maybe when Kobe's gone, but that may be awhile. I think we'd have a better chance seeing CP3 and Brandon in our backcourt than seeing them together starting in the All-Star game!

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Unless he turns Chinese, or marries the queen of China (is there such a thing?), he won't get voted on.

Screw who gets voted on the team. That is a lame ass popularity contest. It's a bigger honor to be chosen by the coaches.
 
The Professional Fan said:
Unless he turns Chinese, or marries the queen of China (is there such a thing?), he won't get voted on.

Screw who gets voted on the team. That is a lame ass popularity contest. It's a bigger honor to be chosen by the coaches.
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Well said +1
 
Roy should just be happy he's making it at all. With upstarts like Mayo, Durant, Gay etc. it may be harder for him to make it in future years. I have a feeling Mayo will steal Roy's spot a time or two.
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
Actually, Clyde started in '92 I believe.
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This is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_NBA_All-Star_Game

Also, Bill Walton and Maurice Lucas started in the 1978 NBA All-Star Game. But that was a different era.

In Clyde's case, however, he had several things going in his favor to overcome the small market factor:

- The Blazers had made deep runs into the playoffs the previous two seasons, so he was on the common fan's mind as an elite player.

- Clyde in 1992 was having a brilliant season, and was being included in serious NBA MVP talk, behind Michael Jordan, of course.

For Brandon Roy to crack the starting 5 for the All-Star team, being in Portland, a similar series of circumstances have to occur. He has to start dropping 30+ consistantly, or the Blazers need to start making it to the 2nd round of the playoffs or deeper consistantly. Just being a good player isn't enough as a Blazer.
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
Roy should just be happy he's making it at all. With upstarts like Mayo, Durant, Gay etc. it may be harder for him to make it in future years. I have a feeling Mayo will steal Roy's spot a time or two.
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Unless he's voted on by the fans, the Grizzlies would have to make a considerable turnaround for Mayo to be considered.... either that or he would have to average 30 a game.
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
Roy should just be happy he's making it at all. With upstarts like Mayo, Durant, Gay etc. it may be harder for him to make it in future years. I have a feeling Mayo will steal Roy's spot a time or two.
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If Portland reaches their full potential, and makes multiple deep playoff runs, Roy will stay in the All Star game.
 
The Professional Fan said:
If Portland reaches their full potential, and makes multiple deep playoff runs, Roy will stay in the All Star game.
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True. I think Kobe will be there for a while still. It will be tight over the next couple of years. Durant is already all-star worthy and Mayo will likely be a 25/5/5 guy in the near future.
 
tlongII said:
He might start if we win a couple of championships. Until then no.
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Agreed. A lot of very very good players simply never get into the fans' consciousness the way some players do. Until and unless Roy demonstrates post-season domination on a few occasions, I doubt he makes it there, either.

Ed O.
 
I would hope to see the fans recognize what Roy brings to the game, but he's just too fundamental for that to ever happen. He's the antithesis of what garners you a fan vote. He lays the ball in instead of dunking it. He doesn't showboat. He gets his teammates involved rather than looking to get his stats.

Those things, however, make him a coach's favorite. So I expect him to make it every year he plays like this one. Furthermore, there's a funny thing that happens when you've made it a couple of times--you're expected to make it unless your game really drops off. That's why you see guys like Dirk, Shaq, Amare, Kidd, etc. make it even when they have years not quite as good as one-hit wonders. I expect Brandon to become one of those "placeholder" players.
 
maxiep said:
I would hope to see the fans recognize what Roy brings to the game, but he's just too fundamental for that to ever happen. He's the antithesis of what garners you a fan vote. He lays the ball in instead of dunking it. He doesn't showboat. He gets his teammates involved rather than looking to get his stats.
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Duncan makes it every year and he's not that flashy but of course he backs it up with a million championships, and I think that's what Brandon would have to have to get a starting nod.
 
chris_in_pdx said:
Not hardly. The kid's been putting up numbers for a month on a terrible team. When OKC makes the playoffs and he's still producing at that level, then talk about him.
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Durant is having a phenomenal season. His team is getting better as well.

He's averaging, for the season, 24.8pts / 6.6rbs / 2.7ast / 47.2 FG% / 85.7 FT%

And his numbers are going UP from there. I was pondering the idea of starting a Durant thread, but didn't really want to give Mixum or other negative nancy's any fodder for their cause.
 
Amazing that it was only what 2 1/2 years ago that the Draft the Stache campaign was in full effect!
 
He would need to have the media talking admiringly about him consistently. Tim Duncan isn't flashy, but the media does a good job of communicating his virtues to the fans, and Duncan has been seen winning playoff series and championships a lot.

For a generally non-flashy player like Roy, that's what it'll take. Winning championships and getting the media to constantly talk him up as one of the top players in the game. Also, of course, he'll need to not have guards who are clearly better than him. Chris Paul is clearly superior to him, but one is okay. Kobe Bryant has been clearly superior, but that gap is narrowing and should continue to as Roy gets closer to his prime and Kobe gets further from his. But another Paul or Kobe can't come along in the West.
 
The Professional Fan said:
Durant is having a phenomenal season. His team is getting better as well.

He's averaging, for the season, 24.8pts / 6.6rbs / 2.7ast / 47.2 FG% / 85.7 FT%

And his numbers are going UP from there. I was pondering the idea of starting a Durant thread, but didn't really want to give Mixum or other negative nancy's any fodder for their cause.
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As I said... when OKC is competing in the playoffs, and Durant has done that for multiple seasons, he merits discussion.
 
The Professional Fan said:
Screw who gets voted on the team. That is a lame ass popularity contest. It's a bigger honor to be chosen by the coaches.
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Agreed. It's ridiculous that the fans get to choose the All-Star starters. It's nothing but a popularity contest that favors the bigger cities. The coaches and GMs and/or NBA reporters should select the team. Period.
 
Shooter said:
Agreed. It's ridiculous that the fans get to choose the All-Star starters. It's nothing but a popularity contest that favors the bigger cities. The coaches and GMs and/or NBA reporters should select the team. Period.
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I suppose you think its also ridiculous that the people get to choose the Presidency as well?

The All-Star game is about the fans, the fans vote for who they want to see.

My gripe is that other countries shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
zagsfan20 said:
Pretty much. Its our game.
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An argument could be made that it's Canada's game, but whatever.....

I don't think fans should be able to vote AT ALL, no matter what country they're from. Coaches and players should vote. Or just coaches.
 
Hmmm like Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Germany, Spain and a host of other countries haven't provided NBA talent?
 
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