All-Star Game Purists get their wish...Yi out for 4 Wks

[LoneStarReb]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3822973

Looks like the Purists got their wish, Yi broke his finger, he's out for 4 Weeks max (the Game's on Feb 15, but he sure as hell isn't gonna be 100% by then, and I doubt he'll even over take Garnett on the ballots). For the record, I dont want Yi in the ASG, but the hate he's been getting has been crazy (I know he's still a project, but 4real though).

There you have it Yi haters...just try not to get too happy and cum on your computer screens

 

[Malorkayel]

HAHA, put on your fire proof suit when you say that.

But to be honest, I don't think all star voting as anything to do with basketball skill, it's all about the commercials and endorsements. Pretty much, if they know who you are, you'll get votes.

 

[DevinNets34]

Yi will take away Vince or Harris's chance of all star game, but it's bad to see Yi get injured while he is paying off.

 

[Mr. J]

And the Nets increase their playoff chances with this loss.

 

[Malorkayel]

And the Nets increase their playoff chances with this loss.

HAHA, nice jab. You're saying Yi had a galo last night?

 

[Mr. J]

HAHA, nice jab. You're saying Yi had a galo last night?

It's more of a fact than it is a jab. This will only give Lopez more minutes. And needless to say, Lopez is way more effective than Yi. The Nets also won't waste time getting the ball to a 7 footer who shoots worst than most guards.

 

[Malorkayel]

It's more of a fact than it is a jab. This will only give Lopez more minutes. And needless to say, Lopez is way more effective than Yi. The Nets also won't waste time getting the ball to a 7 footer who shoots worst than most guards.

Yeah, but you're a Knicks fan, so anything you say loses all credibility. Besides, you can't give PF minutes to Lopez you silly. Basketball doesn't work that way. Oh wait, but Knicks don't play a center, hahaha. I guess this is where you can get confused.

So, hows Galo doing? I hear he's very efficient at riding that pine.

 

[adisodes]

Does a pinky break usually take four weeks to return from? Didn't Iverson play with a few broken fingers? I could be wrong. Four weeks seems like a long time.

 

[Mr. J]

Yeah, but you're a Knicks fan, so anything you say loses all credibility. Besides, you can't give PF minutes to Lopez you silly. Basketball doesn't work that way.

This is wrong on so many different levels. I guess we should never put VC at the 3 any time during the game because he is a SG. There are also no times during games where PF's guard C's and vice-versa. To have a G/F or a F/C is absurd.

So, hows Galo doing? I hear he's very efficient at riding that pine.

You are a riot.

 

[Mr. J]

Does a pinky break usually take four weeks to return from? Didn't Iverson play with a few broken fingers? I could be wrong. Four weeks seems like a long time.

It does seem excessive, but I wouldn't be surprised if Iverson went against doctor's orders and played.

 

[Master Shake]

Yeah, but you're a Knicks fan, so anything you say loses all credibility. Besides, you can't give PF minutes to Lopez you silly. Basketball doesn't work that way. Oh wait, but Knicks don't play a center, hahaha. I guess this is where you can get confused.

So, hows Galo doing? I hear he's very efficient at riding that pine.

What does being a Knicks fan have to do with anything? How come you assume that if you don't like the Nets, you're a Hater. Mr.J is one of the most credible posters on this site, so come correct.

But I bet you'll just call me a troll and tell me I love Vince Carter, won't you?

 

[Malorkayel]

What does being a Knicks fan have to do with anything? How come you assume that if you don't like the Nets, you're a Hater. Mr.J is one of the most credible posters on this site, so come correct.

But I bet you'll just call me a troll and tell me I love Vince Carter, won't you?

Well, you love Carter because you have battered wife syndrome.

Advice, step #1 is to love yourself
Step#2 is to let it go.
Step#3 knowing is half the battle.... GO JOE!

 

[Malorkayel]

The Nets also won't waste time getting the ball to a 7 footer who shoots worst than most guards.

Speaking of... what's up with your boy Nate? Watching the Nix lately he's shooting 29% fg in January. Shorty can't even shoot? D-league for him.

 

[Accelerate]

Lopez never plays power forward. That's why either he or Boone are on the floor at all times. If you watched any Nets games, especially recently, you'd know Yi has been important towards the team's success. He had a crucial offensive rebound that led to a three-pointer for Carter that sealed the game for the Nets (against the Hawks, I think). His past few games, he's scored in the 20's with the exception of the Bucks game where he was surely on his way to score 20+. Even when he doesn't shoot the ball particularly well, he still keeps opposing power forwards needing to respect his jumper which spreads the floor, important in the offense the Nets run to open up the paint for penetration. Without Yi, we'll have to settle for Ryan Anderson, Eduardo Najera or call up Sean Williams from the D-League to replace him, hardly a positive.

 

[LoneStarReb]

Lopez never plays power forward. That's why either he or Boone are on the floor at all times. If you watched any Nets games, especially recently, you'd know Yi has been important towards the team's success. He had a crucial offensive rebound that led to a three-pointer for Carter that sealed the game for the Nets (against the Hawks, I think). His past few games, he's scored in the 20's with the exception of the Bucks game where he was surely on his way to score 20+. Even when he doesn't shoot the ball particularly well, he still keeps opposing power forwards needing to respect his jumper which spreads the floor, important in the offense the Nets run to open up the paint for penetration. Without Yi, we'll have to settle for Ryan Anderson, Eduardo Najera or call up Sean Williams from the D-League to replace him, hardly a positive.

Those are definitely some good points.

Now, with Yi gone, we'll get to see if Yi was a solid puzzle piece in helping the Nets hover around the .500 mark....if the Nets play better without Yi, then...that's good news and it'd be encouraging to see the Nets still stay in the play off race. I just hope that when Yi comes back he can still pick it up from where he left off (duke coulda had a 3rd straight game with 20 easy if he didn't get hurt.)

At the end, it's about the team. Go Nets. And here's to a speedy recovery to Yi.

 

[Mr. J]

Lopez never plays power forward. That's why either he or Boone are on the floor at all times. If you watched any Nets games, especially recently, you'd know Yi has been important towards the team's success.

There are myriads of occasions when Lopez guards the power forward position. Frank might not purposefully put Lopez in the game to guard the power forward position, but switch offs often happen in the game of basketball. Furthermore, Yi has defended the power forward position and has been a non-factor. Lopez can do better. The reason why Yi has been important to the team's success is because he is on a rare hot streak and actually playing decent basketball. When he plays decently, Yi is an asset. When he plays poorly, he is a liability. More often than not he plays poorly.

He had a crucial offensive rebound that led to a three-pointer for Carter that sealed the game for the Nets (against the Hawks, I think). His past few games, he's scored in the 20's with the exception of the Bucks game where he was surely on his way to score 20+.

He score 20+ in two games, maybe three if we count the Bucks game. However, I heavily consider his previous 35 games, where he averaged 10 points and shoots under 40%.

Even when he doesn't shoot the ball particularly well, he still keeps opposing power forwards needing to respect his jumper which spreads the floor, important in the offense the Nets run to open up the paint for penetration. Without Yi, we'll have to settle for Ryan Anderson, Eduardo Najera or call up Sean Williams from the D-League to replace him, hardly a positive.

Not really. Opposing power forwards and centers are more inclined take their chances with Yi, who shot less than 40% prior to his 3-game hot streak.

 

[Malorkayel]

Sometimes I wonder if you watch the games or just look at the box scores. I'm seriously doubting that you watch them. Sound like you're just a bandwagon Yi thumper. Parroting what you're reading, but lately there's been nothing but good things said of Yi about his rebounding and scoring.

Yo, I'm watching the Knicks, they played 2 quarters vs the Rox and went belly up. Yao didn't even need to play after half way of 3rd quarter. This is Rox with no Tmac and Artest. Clyde almost cried while commentating that game. David Lee can't defend centers nor PF, and that's tier best interior guy. Pathetic! My friend is hardcore Knicks fan and he's broken, won't touch NBA 2k9 anymore.

 

[BrooklynBound]

Mr. J, I'm sorry, but Lopez doesn't play PF. We have two true centers on the team and they rarely play together. Yi doesn't affect Lopez.

 

[Mr. J]

Mr. J, I'm sorry, but Lopez doesn't play PF. We have two true centers on the team and they rarely play together. Yi doesn't affect Lopez.

I never said Lopez plays PF. I simply said Yi being out means there's more minutes available in the froncourt. In those available minutes, Lopez can get more time.

I also said because Lopez isn't a PF doesn't mean he matches up with other PFs on various occasions during the game. Similarly, VC is a SG but there are several times during a game when he matches up against the oppositions SF. I think you understand this, though Malorkayel fails to realize this.

 

[Malorkayel]

I never said Lopez plays PF. I simply said Yi being out means there's more minutes available in the froncourt. In those available minutes, Lopez can get more time.

I also said because Lopez isn't a PF doesn't mean he matches up with other PFs on various occasions during the game. Similarly, VC is a SG but there are several times during a game when he matches up against the oppositions SF. I think you understand this, though Malorkayel fails to realize this.

That was a huge steaming cup of fail. How is Lopez (Center) getting any minutes from Yi (power forward)'s absence? Lopez share minutes with Boone, the other Nets center right now. This isn't the Knicks, where everyone is a small forward. Lopez actually can't guard perimeter at all, Yi does a poor job at it but there was a time where he did guard Wade. Lopez can't do it.

Also, just because Lopez is guarding another position, doesn't make a difference with his minutes as a center.
Yi guarded Wade, that doesn't make him a point guard or take away minutes from Harris.

 

[Mr. J]

Sometimes I wonder if you watch the games or just look at the box scores. I'm seriously doubting that you watch them. Sound like you're just a bandwagon Yi thumper. Parroting what you're reading, but lately there's been nothing but good things said of Yi about his rebounding and scoring.

Yo, I'm watching the Knicks, they played 2 quarters vs the Rox and went belly up. Yao didn't even need to play after half way of 3rd quarter. This is Rox with no Tmac and Artest. Clyde almost cried while commentating that game. David Lee can't defend centers nor PF, and that's tier best interior guy. Pathetic! My friend is hardcore Knicks fan and he's broken, won't touch NBA 2k9 anymore.

You rarely warrant a serious response.

I've watched at least 30 Nets games this season, so don't give me that nonsense. It's a fact that Yi has struggled this season. Lending credence to this are his lackluster FG% and PPG. In addition, there are certain intangibles such as his terrible defense that aren't even mentioned in "box scores". If I'm a

You just sound silly for bringing up the Knicks. Firstly, this isn't about the Knicks, and secondly, never once did I say the Knicks were a good team. It's a weak attempt to "get back at me" for saying the Nets can benefit by Yi sitting out. Yi had some good games the past few days, but you seem to be overrating him. First of all, this little 3-game streak of solid basketball was all against sub .500 teams. Do you really think 3 games of solid games offsets an entire season of lackluster basketball?

 

[Mr. J]

That was a huge steaming cup of fail.

This sentence mirrors 99% of your posts.

How is Lopez (Center) getting any minutes from Yi (power forward)'s absence? Lopez share minutes with Boone, the other Nets center right now. This isn't the Knicks, where everyone is a small forward. Lopez actually can't guard perimeter at all, Yi does a poor job at it but there was a time where he did guard Wade. Lopez can't do it.

Also, just because Lopez is guarding another position, doesn't make a difference with his minutes as a center.
Yi guarded Wade, that doesn't make him a point guard or take away minutes from Harris.

The fact is that with Yi out, there is 26 minutes which need to be dispersed. Frank may deem it necessary to have Lopez (center) in for longer stretches of the game. For example, Devin Harris was injured and there were quite a few times when Carter (shooting guard) was playing point guard.



Tell me what's going to happen to Yi's 26 minutes then.

 

[LoneStarReb]

This sentence mirrors 99% of your posts.


The fact is that with Yi out, there is 26 minutes which need to be dispersed. Frank may deem it necessary to have Lopez (center) in for longer stretches of the game. For example, Devin Harris was injured and there were quite a few times when Carter (shooting guard) was playing point guard.



Tell me what's going to happen to Yi's 26 minutes then.

I see what you're tryina say, but you gotta admit, it's a different scenario.....VC is VERY capable of being a playmaker....Brooks Lopez is strictly a POST player, he doesn't spread the floor like Yi, Lopez isn't cut out to be a 4-Man...Carter on the other hand is versatile as hell, any1 that's been following carter since his Toronto days can tell you that Carter is the better NATURAL playmaker compared to Devin's shoot first mentality. For the record, the last 5 Games Yi was solid as hell: 15.8 PPG 7.4 RPG 46% FGP in just 31 Minutes...the last 3 he was even better 19.3 PPG 7.7 RPG 53.9% FGP 44.4% 3PtpP 31 Minutes as well (those numbers are very very efficient, almost identical to Yao's, and Yao averages less than 33 Minutes Per game). Not to mention the Nets went 3-2 in that Stretch, ya'll gotta admit Yi pulled his weight when Harris went out.....Yi's injury just might sting the Nets a bit.

 

[LoneStarReb]

EDIT: Yi's actually gonna miss 6 WEEKS, not 4.

 

[Malorkayel]

You rarely warrant a serious response.

I've watched at least 30 Nets games this season, so don't give me that nonsense. It's a fact that Yi has struggled this season. Lending credence to this are his lackluster FG% and PPG. In addition, there are certain intangibles such as his terrible defense that aren't even mentioned in "box scores". If I'm a

You just sound silly for bringing up the Knicks. Firstly, this isn't about the Knicks, and secondly, never once did I say the Knicks were a good team. It's a weak attempt to "get back at me" for saying the Nets can benefit by Yi sitting out. Yi had some good games the past few days, but you seem to be overrating him. First of all, this little 3-game streak of solid basketball was all against sub .500 teams. Do you really think 3 games of solid games offsets an entire season of lackluster basketball?

I mention Knicks because you said Nate was a good draft pick. Nate has been terrible in the month of January, shooting 29% and is historically a terrible shooter and too short to guard anyone. I felt you were hypocritical, giving Nate a free pass, while throwing Yi under the bus.

 

[kobimel]

I get MrJ's point here.

Yi's absence frees up 26 minutes of play. With Yi out, it's possible the Frank will go with Boone at PF, for example, and Lopez at C, instead of replacing Lopez with Boone. Then Lopez stays on the court longer than if he had been replaced. Get it?

 

[Malorkayel]

I get MrJ's point here.

Yi's absence frees up 26 minutes of play. With Yi out, it's possible the Frank will go with Boone at PF, for example, and Lopez at C, instead of replacing Lopez with Boone. Then Lopez stays on the court longer than if he had been replaced. Get it?

Terrible point is terrible... end of story.

 

[Mr. J]

I mention Knicks because you said Nate was a good draft pick. Nate has been terrible in the month of January, shooting 29% and is historically a terrible shooter and too short to guard anyone. I felt you were hypocritical, giving Nate a free pass, while throwing Yi under the bus.

This is arguably the most asinine post I've read in my 4.5 years on this site. First of all, Yi Jianlian was drafted 6th overall and was projected to be a star by most. Nate was drafted 20th overall and projected to be a bench player. That alone makes a huge difference.

Nate is coming off the bench averaging 16/4/4 this season and shooting 42% from the field. Those are solid NBA stats, especially for a 5'8" guard. Yi is starting and putting up 10/6 while shooting 40% as a 7 footer. Do you see the difference? Furthermore, you are putting too much stock in Nate Robinson shooting 29% in 5 games in January. He is on a little cold streak like 95% of the NBA goes through. This does not make him a bad draft pick, and it would be stupid to think otherwise.

Nate has improved greatly defensively and has doubled his SPG from last season. He plays the passing lanes well and has played solid man to man defense overall. Right now you're just fishing and failing miserably.

Nate is a terrible shooter? You clearly don't watch Knicks basketball.

 

[Mr. J]

Terrible point is terrible... end of story.

I agree that terrible point is terrible, too.

 

[Malorkayel]

This is arguably the most asinine post I've read in my 4.5 years on this site. First of all, Yi Jianlian was drafted 6th overall and was projected to be a star by most. Nate was drafted 20th overall and projected to be a bench player. That alone makes a huge difference.

Nate is coming off the bench averaging 16/4/4 this season and shooting 42% from the field. Those are solid NBA stats, especially for a 5'8" guard. Yi is starting and putting up 10/6 while shooting 40% as a 7 footer. Do you see the difference? Furthermore, you are putting too much stock in Nate Robinson shooting 29% in 5 games in January. He is on a little cold streak like 95% of the NBA goes through. This does not make him a bad draft pick, and it would be stupid to think otherwise.

Nate has improved greatly defensively and has doubled his SPG from last season. He plays the passing lanes well and has played solid man to man defense overall. Right now you're just fishing and failing miserably.

Nate is a terrible shooter? You clearly don't watch Knicks basketball.

You were the one that said benching bad underperforming players to give your team a chance to win, or was that not you? You're a hypocrite, giving Nate a free pass. Also, I used your reference on Galo being soft, but you also give him a free pass too. So, if you wear a Knicks uniform, everything is a free pass.

You're losing credibility, that's all I have to say. I can tolerate your view if you share that view on all the players, but you're just jabbing lemming style. That's lame, I get plenty of that from the parrots at Realgm.

How about posting a Knicks game threads consistently on your forum? Also, Lopez and boone are not currently playing as Center/PF. They don't share minutes with PFs, not unless it's due to some uncontrollable foul trouble.