Politics America's $1 Trillion National Security Budget

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http://www.pogo.org/our-work/straus...as-one-trillion-national-security-budget.html

The Pentagon's current leadership and most on the House and Senate Armed Services Committees in Congress describe President Obama's 2015 defense budget request as painfully austere, if not dangerously inadequate. The defense trade press is full of statements from generals, admirals and the other politicians from both political parties that there is not nearly enough money available to buy adequate amounts of new hardware, maintain current pay and benefits or provide even low amounts of training and equipment maintenance. As a result, they are looking for ways to relieve the Pentagon from its penury.

Scarcity of money is not their problem. Pentagon costs, taken together with other known national security expenses for 2015, will exceed $1 Trillion. How can that be? The trade press is full of statements about the Pentagon's $495.6 billion budget and how low that is.

There is much more than $495.6 billion in the budget for the Pentagon, and there are piles of national security spending outside the Pentagon-all of it as elemental for national security as any new aircraft and ships and the morale and well-being of our troops.

The table below details what a careful observer will find in President Obama's 2015 budget presentation materials. The amounts for the Pentagon are well above the advertised $495.6 billion, and there are several non-Pentagon accounts that are clearly relevant.

This conflicts with the 495 billion in the 2015 budget. So where did they apply the other charges on the actual budget? Or is our spending actually 500 billion more than the Obama administration willing to make public? Does that mean they are at a 1 trillion dollar deficit? What else is hidden? Are we being fooled here?!

 

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Oh and don't give me this "I'm using conservative bias sites" because pogo is pretty fucking liberal

 

[jlprk]

This conflicts with the 495 billion in the 2015 budget...is our spending actually 500 billion more than the Obama administration willing to make public? Does that mean they are at a 1 trillion dollar deficit?

Is our spending $600B more than $495B? That means we're spending $1.1T!

Is our spending $700B more than $495B? That means we're spending $1.2T!

etc. You answer your question in the affirmative without evidence, then act shocked by simple arithmetic.

 

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Is our spending $600B more than $495B? That means we're spending $1.1T!

Is our spending $700B more than $495B? That means we're spending $1.2T!

etc. You answer your question in the affirmative without evidence, then act shocked by simple arithmetic.

http://www.usdebtclock.org

We are spending 3.6 trillion this year. The defense spending from this clock is 580 billion. The article says we are spending 1 trillion. Who's lying?

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.usdebtclock.org

We are spending 3.6 trillion this year. The defense spending from this clock is 580 billion. The article says we are spending 1 trillion. Who's lying?

The liberals pretend what we spend on the police counts as military spending. The department of energy's budget is counted as military spending by them. And so on.

 

[jlprk]

We liberals count your posts as $1.8T of propaganda.

 

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The liberals pretend what we spend on the police counts as military spending. The department of energy's budget is counted as military spending by them. And so on.

Ahhhh. I see! So it's liberal propaganda then?

 

[Denny Crane]

Ahhhh. I see! So it's liberal propaganda then?

Your own link details how they came up with the $1T figure.

They include $38.5B from the budget of the International Affairs budget, all veterans' services (e.g. VA hospitals, etc.), and a share of Obama's massive national debt.

 

[MARIS61]

Considering that DHS is nothing more than a poorly veiled branch of the military whose sole mission is to control American citizens, I think the number is much larger.