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It's bad when Obama even tops Bush Jr.
I don't think he is as bad as Bush Jr . . . but Obamacare has really effected him negatively.
I thought this was weird: Voters say by a narrow 37 - 34 percent that Obama is better for the economy than Bush.
Obama has disappointed me in a lot of areas . . . but not the stock market . . . at least not yet.
Obama has seriously damaged the younger voter demographic. He inspired a lot of kids to get out and vote for the first time, selling his hopes and dreams and all that bullshit. I've personally seen and heard a lot of people who are very disenfranchised after how he completely screwed them over.
So you think a lot more young voters will vote republican next election or just not vote?
The poll here really reflects the resent experience and the memory span of the people polled.
For me (long memory span)
The best list:
Ronald Reagan
Harry Truman
Eisenhower
John Kennedy
The Worst list:
Barack Obama
Richard Nixon
Lyndon Johnson
Jimmy Carter
So you think a lot more young voters will vote republican next election or just not vote?
Anyone who lived through the Carter years would rank him worse than W.
I have personally never really known a "good" president. I was too young to really remember the Reagan years, and I only vaguely remember the first Bush era. Clinton sucked, but GW was worse, and now we're dealing with this poor excuse for a President. My only fear is that Hillary will take over, but then again, it's not like the Republicans have trotted out anyone better. McCain? Romney? Give me a fucking break. Anyone who isn't a brain washed religious right winger is pretty much done with the GOP, and anyone that isn't a utopian chasing "progressive" is done with the Dems.
When can we have a real third party?
True. I have a hard time not making Carter #2 for being so bad I hated to call him President.
But I can't over look the dispicable Nixon who I never could vote for. Johnson got us into that damn war that never should have happened and lied like hell to get it done.
I never agreed that we should be trying to create a Democracy in Irag but I really can not fault GW for going to war in Irag or Afghanistan. What I can fault him for is failing to define victory that was achievable. The lives and treasure squandered on the unachievable is unforgivable.
True. I have a hard time not making Carter #2 for being so bad I hated to call him President.
But I can't over look the dispicable Nixon who I never could vote for. Johnson got us into that damn war that never should have happened and lied like hell to get it done.
I never agreed that we should be trying to create a Democracy in Irag but I really can not fault GW for going to war in Irag or Afghanistan. What I can fault him for is failing to define victory that was achievable. The lives and treasure squandered on the unachievable is unforgivable.
I don't think we were trying to create democracy. I think we were trying to hand out huge contracts to our corporate masters. How much did Halliburton make off that fiasco anyway?
Every day I see a new story about a giant corporation fucking over our country, and depending on which side of the fence, it's either a republican or a democrat backing them up. Either it's the Comcast merger, Monsanto poisoning our agriculture, or some other corporate giant openly fucking the people of this country. The government doesn't care. The government doesn't have our back because we don't fill their coffers.
Halliburton was so dissatisfied with the money they made in Iraq that they sold off the division that did business there.
I do not at all think Halliburton was any part of us going into Iraq. Halliburton made lots of money during the Clinton years too.
I think Carter was the worst ever, and by far.
Obama has actually had some successes, and hasn't hurt the nation nearly as much.
Some Success?
Well lord! I can chose here? I can't remember how Carter actually hurt me, but I do know that Obame cost me(and my wife) the health care plan that took me 30 years to earn. Gone with his unconstitutional dream.
How much time have you been waiting in lines for gas? Is your mortgage at 18%+?
Ha! Yeah the 18%, 21 even. That didn't hurt me much, hell it got me a gig as consultant to the Federal Reserve and they bought my product to support the plan to get the inflation under control.
You are right though bad shit happen under Carter.
Tell me again what Obama's success is?
Obviously he's the first black President, so it's all gravy from there.
If you blame black for bad, then he may be the last as well as the first.
I think it has more to do with being the first non American President. ( No, I believe Hawaii his his place of birth.) He sure as hell is not a natural born American.
Ha! Yeah the 18%, 21 even. That didn't hurt me much, hell it got me a gig as consultant to the Federal Reserve and they bought my product to support the plan to get the inflation under control.
You are right though bad shit happen under Carter.
Tell me again what Obama's success is?
Oh! I forgot, I bought a motorcycle so I didn't have to do the gas on even/odd days.
Stock market is high. Everyone with a 401K is benefitting.
Interest rates are rock bottom. Everyone with a mortgage is benefitting.
The difference between 19% and 13% on a $50K mortgage is $450/month. Real money.
