Andre Miller lashes out at all star selections

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RT @jwquick: Andre Miller blasts All-Star selections: "It's all publicity and hype ... The league don't appreciate the blue-collar workers"
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Andre Miller on Blake Griffin's selection: "I'm not a hater. But he hasn't made anyone better. They are giving young guys too much respect''
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Man i think i will miss andre

 

[andalusian]

No disrespect to Andre Miller - but Blake Griffin most certainly made a whole lot of Clips better. Deandre Jordan is much improved since playing with him and seeing his work ethic, Baron Davis finally seems interested and Eric Gordon can score a lot more efficiently with so much attention being given to Griffin in the post.

Blake Griffin is exactly the kind of guy that deserves to be labeled a star.

 

[julius]

what's funny is, the NBA had a rule that rookies couldn't play in both the ASG and the rookie game the year LeBron was a rookie.

I think that Andre said is true, but it's like someone yelling at a concert. no one can hear you, and they only think you're singin' along with the band.

 

[HailBlazers]

I don't know if he's "blasting" the selections, as much as telling it how it is.

what's funny is, the NBA had a rule that rookies couldn't play in both the ASG and the rookie game the year LeBron was a rookie..

Rookie's shouldn't play in the All-Star game.

 

[VenomXL]

I think Andre wants to torpedo Blake again.

 

[andalusian]

I think Andre wants to torpedo Blake again.

I almost wish Cho would trade Miller to the Clips just to see what happens.

 

[B-Roy]

Rookie's shouldn't play in the All-Star game, look what it did to Lebron's Ego

You mean not playing in the ASG? LeBron didn't play in the ASG in his rookie season.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Stern will suspend Andre from the Cleveland game, and have Javie officiate, just to teach us all a little lesson on who is in charge.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

COMPTON IN THE HOUSE

 

[HailBlazers]

You mean not playing in the ASG? LeBron didn't play in the ASG in his rookie season.

Yea I Was just stretching to find a Reason why Blake doesn't deserve to be in it.

 

[THE HCP]

Jamal McGloire made it over LeBron his rookie season.

 

[THE HCP]

COMPTON IN THE HOUSE

He's from Watts you wannabe gang member!

 

[illmatic99]

I agree with Andre's sentiments, but he's going after the wrong guy.

 

[Rhal]

I can't really think of a reason why LMA should have gotten in over anyone in the west. I can think of a lot of reasons he should get in over Love, but seeing as Love wasn't chosen i'm fine with blake being in there.

 

[Natebishop3]

Preach it!

 

[PapaG]

Call me cynical, but I don't think that Miller is complaining that LMA didn't make the AS game. Miller just got to 16th in the all-time assist list, and he's never even sniffed an All-Star game.

He's just a "blue-collar guy" who punches the clock every. single. game. and produces.

 

[illmatic99]

Your cynicism towards Dre (while not unexpected given your history) is unfounded. He was referring to Aldridge's snub.

About this time, Blazers guard Andre Miller approached us sitting in the stands of the University of Indianapolis gym.

“What’s the word? What’s the word?’’ Miller anxiously asked.

When told Aldridge did not make the team, Miller cursed.

“It’s all publicity and hype,’’ Miller said. “The league don’t appreciate the blue collar workers. They don’t appreciate that. They make their money off the high-flyers ... That’s a slap in the face to LA.’’


“LA was supposed to make it. He was supposed to make it,’’ Miller continued. “We have a better record than those guys (the 19-29 Clippers), and LA is putting up just as good numbers. Now, you are not goin’ to see a lot of highlights - Blake Griffin highlights and stuff like that - but they are giving these young guys too much respect. Too much respect to the young guys. It’s good for him personally; I’m not no hater. But I am biased toward my teammate. No. 1, we have better record, and No. 2, (Aldridge) is just as good and he has paid his dues.’’

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/02/the_lamarcus_aldridge_all-star.html

 

[RR7]

Really like hearing that from Andre. I know he doesn't care about winning or anything, but at least he cares for his teammates.

 

[PapaG]

Your cynicism towards Dre (while not unexpected given your history) is unfounded. He was referring to Aldridge's snub.


http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/02/the_lamarcus_aldridge_all-star.html

Well, I was wrong.

I love hearing that from Miller. I did praise him in the Spurs Game Thread as well, and didn't bash him after last night.

He's growing on me, and thanks for providing the full context of his quote.

He's kind of a surly loner who is very good at some things, and weak at others, yet he is persistent in his determination. Miller and me on this board are kindred spirits. I now embrace you, Oddball Andre!

 

[Klinky]

I like the tenacity of Miller's statements. I don't think they're quite true though. I think the the All-Star has more of a problem based off Tim Duncan posting career lows yet getting in & Yao Ming getting voted in again despite not having played for two seasons. We'll see who is picked in Yao's place though. Perhaps some of Millers' statements stem from the spat he had earlier with Griffin

 

[Boob-No-More]

No disrespect to Andre Miller - but Blake Griffin most certainly made a whole lot of Clips better. Deandre Jordan is much improved since playing with him and seeing his work ethic, Baron Davis finally seems interested and Eric Gordon can score a lot more efficiently with so much attention being given to Griffin in the post.

Blake Griffin is exactly the kind of guy that deserves to be labeled a star.

So, they've added an all-star to their roster AND he's made all his teammates better, but they're still 10 games under 0.500 at the all-star break. Something doesn't compute.

BNM

 

[Public Defender]

Sounds like coaches did what Nate said they would - go on win-loss record - but took it to an extreme with Duncan ( outstanding record, but mediocre stats).

I could easily see Stern picking Kevin Love to replace Yao Ming, rather than Aldridge... but he could pick Aldridge. I don't know, if I were Aldridge, if it would feel a little different, getting to the All-Star game that way.

Bottom line for me is that it's ridiculous that Yao is even on the All-Star team. There need to be some common-sense limits put on eligibility.

 

[B-Roy]

Sounds like coaches did what Nate said they would - go on win-loss record - but took it to an extreme with Duncan ( outstanding record, but mediocre stats).

I could easily see Stern picking Kevin Love to replace Yao Ming, rather than Aldridge... but he could pick Aldridge. I don't know, if I were Aldridge, if it would feel a little different, getting to the All-Star game that way.

Bottom line for me is that it's ridiculous that Yao is even on the All-Star team. There need to be some common-sense limits put on eligibility.

I'm glad Yao made it. If he didn't, Bynum would be starting, and that's an even bigger travesty than Yao making it but getting replaced.

 

[andalusian]

So, they've added an all-star to their roster AND he's made all his teammates better, but they're still 10 games under 0.500 at the all-star break. Something doesn't compute.

What does not compute? They were a miserable team before, DeAndre Jordan was crappy, Baron was not interested and Gordon was very nice - but did not have anywhere as nice a season as this one is. Griffin has made this miserable bunch a team that's fun to watch and also one that is getting better - they had a pretty decent recent stretch despite the fact that they have a less than inspiring coach in VfG. Saying that Griffin did not make his teammates better is patently wrong - sure - he is not as good a player as LMA - but he has been a lot more consistent than LMA has been since the start of the season - and he is a rookie.

Gordon was a 14.6 PER guy last year, he is over 20 (21.6) this year, Jordan's PER has increased by 2 points - and his transformation on defense has been even more impressive, and they are winning at a higher percentage this year after starting rather bad (all new coaching staff, Davis coming out of shape, learning to play through a rookie) - their last month or so was not much different from Portland, win% wise.

I stand by what I said - Blake Griffin has a positive impact on his team-mates - add the fact that he is a good player, astonishingly good for a rookie - and one of the most fun to watch by far - and the dude deserves the all-star game imho.

 

[Boob-No-More]

What does not compute?

Simple answer. Last year, after 48 games, the Clippers had a record of 21-27 - with no all-star on their roster. This year, after 48 games, their record is two games WORSE (19-29) with the addition of an all-star and supposedly everyone else getting better. I measure improvement in wins, not Sports Center highlights, and right now the Clippers are winning fewer games than at the same point last season. Sure Griffin is fun to watch and he has the potential to help his team get better over time, but right now, their won-loss record says otherwise.

He made the all-star game for one simple reason - buzz. He's on Sports Center throwing down just about every night. Kevin Love has better stats, but the knocks on Love are he doesn't play defense and his team doesn't win games. The exact same arguments could be made about Griffin. I'm not claiming Love should be an all-star, but if he's not, why is Griffin? One reason - more highlight reel dunks, even if they don't lead to more wins.

BNM

 

[VanillaGorilla]

What does not compute?

Did you even look at their record this year compared to last year?

 

[Ed O]

Duncan's numbers aren't THAT much worse than Aldridge's... his scoring is worse, but his PER is better and he's on a far superior team. I think it's hard to argue that LaMarcus deserves it more than anyone who made it.

Love and Randolph? Neither of them made it, but they're both right at Aldridge's level, IMO. Superior numbers on (presently) inferior teams.

Aldridge may or may not make it, and he may or may deserve it... the important thing, though, is that he's turning it up a notch and that he's got a LOT more room for improvement... and he's going to be a Blazer for a long time. That's exciting to me. Eff all-star appearances.

Ed O.

 

[Ed O]

Simple answer. Last year, after 48 games, the Clippers had a record of 21-27 - with no all-star on their roster. This year, after 48 games, their record is two games WORSE (19-29) with the addition of an all-star and supposedly everyone else getting better.

They also had Camby and Kaman last year. Losing two above-average centers is sort of a downer... Blazers fans know that

Ed O.

 

[barfo]

I like Andre for caring whether LMA made it or not.
Myself, though, I don't care whether LMA made it or not. All-star game is a waste of time.

barfo

 

[andalusian]

Did you even look at their record this year compared to last year?

Yes, I looked at their record at the end of the year. They started strong and fizzled. This year seems the opposite, the started bad (understandable given the changes) - and are building momentum.

At the end of the day this computes for me. This is an all-"star" game. If the guy everyone wants to watch to see night-in, night-out what he did is not a star - what is?

Last year, the starting line-up was Baron, Eric Gordon, Rasual Butler, Marcus Camby and Chris Kaman. Kaman was playing all-star level, Baron came into camp in fantastic shape. This year the Clips started Al Fariq Aminu for 14 games, Eric Beldose for 22. Kaman has played only 10 games semi-injured, no Camby, Baron came to camp in bad shape.

Yes, I paid attention to the Clips a lot this year - and what Miller said is utter nonsense. This team was losing at the start of the year despite Blake's efforts - but they have got used to playing with him and they are starting to win now. After the disastrous start - they have gone 18-16 - absolutely fantastic results for this squad and the biggest reason for this was Griffin.