Angie's List - I Don't Get It..

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First of all, I hadn't realized the company had gone public. Moreover, what's up with this (bolded) losing boatloads of money?! How can a website that seemingly only posts reviews lose tens of millions?? (PS: They charge handsomely to be placed further up on their respective lists. I know this, as out company pays in the thousands per month.)

http://www.remodeling.hw.net/remode...leman-role-in-client-remodeler-relations.aspx

Just-announced improvements to the communications and scheduling tools at Angie's List (AL) signal the online review service's intention to deepen its role as a link between customer and contractor, a company executive says.

"Angie's List historically has been where you come and search for reviews and the best provider, but we aim to facilitate the hiring itself," Shelly Towns, vice president of product at Angie's List, told REMODELING in an interview Aug. 6. "The biggest complaint we've had is ‘Hey, the guy doesn’t call me back'. Most are driving around town all day fixing the roof and doing plumbing. Angie's List feels we have the critical mass to improve the marketplace. To that end, communication is one of the biggest opportunities out there."

The Indianapolis-based company also announced Aug. 5 it was rolling out nationally its communications and scheduling online tools and that it had acquired BrightNest, a website that specializes in helping homeowners care for their home, in part by organizing their maintenance and improvement efforts.

The communications tool basically is an alert service for the roughly 42,250 service providers who have signed contracts to get on AL's service provider pages. Those pages now include a button that AL;s 2.2 million consumer members can click on when they want to get in touch with a particular provider. The tool then "fires off a message that says, 'Hey, you've got a message from an Angie's List member,'" Towns says.

The scheduling tool currently is restricted to cases in which a customer is acting on an e-commerce, buy-it-now offer; an example would be if an AL service provider offered $99 for four hours of housecleaning. By using the tool, a customer not only would contract with the service provider but also set a time in which the service would be performed. AL plans to expand its scheduling sometime in the future so it includes non-ecommerce transactions, Towns said.

As for BrightNest, Towns said AL liked how the service collects detailed information on each of its users, such as whether you own a pool or when you last bought an air filter and even what brand you bought. "They've built something of a virtual portfolio that helps you do that," she said. And with such information, AL in turn can mine the data to burrow deeper into its consumer members' lives.

"Your roof doesn't need to be leaking for you to think about AL," she said. "How do we make it a habit?"

The latest earnings report for Angie's List shows the company remains in growth mode. Total paid membership by consumers leaped 51% in the second quarter from the year-earlier period, while the number of participating service vendors climbed 42% during that same period. Still, the company posted a net loss of $14.3 million in the second quarter and has racked up $163.4 million in losses since 2009.
 

I recognized Angie's List as a sham Craig's List wannabe from the first moment I saw them paying to advertise themselves.

"The offering has ANGI only receiving $8.7 million of the overall funds with the rest of the 92.1% of proceeds going to a series of insiders including the CEO, the founder, other directors and early investors cashing out of their shares. In total, Officers and Directors of the company that are selling shares in the offering represent 4,234,381 shares, or 50.1% of the total shares sold in the offering. The balance, 42.0% is being sold by other early investors.
 
Angie's list always seems like a scam for me. You have to pay to get access to all the shit, so all the reviewers also pay to get on there too. what the fuck man. so lame.
 
I think my Dad used to use them until they started charging companies to post ads. I think they started out free and then got greedy. If they would have stayed free like Craigslist, they would still be relevant.
 
I think my Dad used to use them until they started charging companies to post ads. I think they started out free and then got greedy. If they would have stayed free like Craigslist, they would still be relevant.

Exactly. When they were free, I was "member" who used them to find services or whatever. I knew there was no way I was ever going to pay for such a service. Just do the legwork myself once a year when I need a plumber or electrician and save the monthly fee. I know people who are members and claim it's worth the cost. I just don't see it.
 
For me, I frequently got burned good with home and auto repairs. My use of Angie's List has saved me a lot of money over the last 7 years.
 
I have found Yelp to be unreliable. I still use it, but more for restaurants.

That's because Yelp extorts companies and threatens to post bad reviews if they don't pay them money to put them at the top of their reviews.
 
And yet twice in the last week I've had businesses urge me to post reviews for them on that site (Yelp).
 
And yet twice in the last week I've had businesses urge me to post reviews for them on that site (Yelp).

Funny. A friend of mine asked me to give him the thumbs up on Yelp. Yelp deleted my review within a few hours.

As if they knew he recruited me to make the review.
 
I love Angie's List and as someone who has hired a bad contractor in the past I find the $40 fee to be a bargain. I've also been doing some extensive remodeling in my house the last year and every contractor I've hired off Angie's List has been great, I've also noticed that many contractors offer X% discount to Angie list members and they go out of their way for you while they work so they can earn that positive feedback on the list. I always request a bid from the top 3 contractors on the site, I look for all A/B reviews and if there are and D/F I read what the issue was and look for the contractors response. I figure you can't please everyone so I don't expect perfection just professionalism.

One of my favorite negative reviews I found was a landscaper who bid a job, told the owner he was done talking with her so she can go in the house while he took some final measurements. Then the owner came out to find the landscaper pissing in her yard. Not the worst thing in the world but not the professional attitude I am looking for.
 
I work for a windows & doors company. Angie's List has been (deservedly so) very good to us over this past year. We now get more leads via Angie's List vs. any other advertising source we're currently involved in. Yes, it does cost our company a good chunk of change for higher "placement". That said, though, the grades are the grades...based strictly upon customer feedback. Therefore, it would make absolutely no sense for our company to pay for higher placement if we had a bad grade, overall. Bottom-line is, people want to go with A-Rated companies. (BTW, we are 2012 Super Service Award winners, and have also made the Honor Roll).

We recently received two C ratings.....due to what was perceived as confusing and/or high pressure sales techniques. We are NOT a high pressure company, so these reviews were real head-scratchers. I'm hearing that reviews that don't involved work actually being done carry a lower "weight" than the ones involving work. :dunno: Nonetheless, our Sales VP directly responded (on Angie's List) to the two lower reviews. As well, he sent out the high alert to us sales guys directing us to reach out to any of our Angie's List customers asking them if they wouldn't mind posting reviews. It worked! We now have 5 fresh A-Rated reviews as to help displace the two lower ratings.

Bottom line, again, Angie's List has seemingly worked for us. We're a small company of 12 employees, so the overall value of "her" service has been significant.
 
We recently received two C ratings.....due to what was perceived as confusing and/or high pressure sales techniques. We are NOT a high pressure company, so these reviews were real head-scratchers.

Sez you.

But they felt it was. That tells me that rather than just say "it wasn't us", learn from it as if that was their perception, then ,maybe it's true.
 
Sez you.

But they felt it was. That tells me that rather than just say "it wasn't us", learn from it as if that was their perception, then ,maybe it's true.

They did because we had an over-zealous new guy. He's since toned down his act. We know who we are and will continue down that track. Sometimes, you have to grade on a mean average.

Actually, that's how I approach internet reviews. In other words throw out the top and bottom few reviews, and see what's in the middle.
 
They did because we had an over-zealous new guy. He's since toned down his act. We know who we are and will continue down that track. Sometimes, you have to grade on a mean average.

Actually, that's how I approach internet reviews. In other words throw out the top and bottom few reviews, and see what's in the middle.

Fair enough.
 
Angie should have realized that the service she provides can be duplicated by a simple google search. She should have kept the site free and enjoyed the ad revenue. Way to go, Angie!
 
Angie should have realized that the service she provides can be duplicated by a simple google search. She should have kept the site free and enjoyed the ad revenue. Way to go, Angie!

I think Angie's follows up on reviews and verifies. I have had calls and emails from them after posting reviews. That would set that site apart from Yelp.
 
I work for a windows & doors company. Angie's List has been (deservedly so) very good to us over this past year. We now get more leads via Angie's List vs. any other advertising source we're currently involved in........

We recently received two C ratings.....due to what was perceived as confusing and/or high pressure sales techniques. We are NOT a high pressure company, so these reviews were real head-scratchers. I'm hearing that reviews that don't involved work actually being done carry a lower "weight" than the ones involving work. :dunno: Nonetheless, our Sales VP directly responded (on Angie's List) to the two lower reviews. As well, he sent out the high alert to us sales guys directing us to reach out to any of our Angie's List customers asking them if they wouldn't mind posting reviews. It worked! We now have 5 fresh A-Rated reviews as to help displace the two lower ratings.

Bottom line, again, Angie's List has seemingly worked for us. We're a small company of 12 employees, so the overall value of "her" service has been significant.

One of my contacts just came through. All A's. :)

Member Comments:

The installers arrived on time and went right to work. The windows are beautiful and efficient (they even block the sound of the barking dogs next door!), and have added a lot of appeal to the house. The work area was left clean, and they were able to accommodate my existing windowsills. I was provided with all of the paperwork for Energy Credits, as well as a warranty and follow up phone call.

After learning of my husband's death shortly after the installation, (ABM) sent a beautiful sympathy bouquet. Truly a company that cares about its customers!
 
Hmmmmm...., you did a large picture window for me. Maybe I should go to Angie's and post.
 
Amazon.com loses money, too, yet investors still pour money into it. It must be some sort of fraud thing where people recoup their money while the company 'loses' money.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/07/25/amazon_sells_more_than_ever_loses_money.html

Bezos is allowed to run this scam and monopolize the online marketplace because he invests heavily in socially liberal causes and fiscally conservative economics. Investors will keep propping up the company in venture and stocks because the idea is to eventually be the only online retailer out there. Amazon is now in the B to B commercial sale business, and is operating it at a huge loss, yet is eating up smaller companies that are brick and mortar.
 
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Perhaps they lose money on paper for tax reason which may not effect the stock price.
 

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