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This whole thing is so Machiavellian. Getting players to candidly shit talk each other behind the veil of anonymity.... Just for clicks?
 
Interesting that quite a few think Siakam is overrated. Jaden McDaniels rated quite high defensively and considered underrated by many. Jrue Holiday considered by strong majority to be best defensive player. Jaren Jackson not rated very high.
 
illmatic99 said:
This whole thing is so Machiavellian. Getting players to candidly shit talk each other behind the veil of anonymity.... Just for clicks?
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Is this meant to be a criticism? Because that stuff is fucking awesome!

BTW: Machiavelli was a genius, and not in the least "Machiavellian." Little known fact: he was tortured by having his hands tied behind his back and then hung by a rope tied to his wrists. This only failed to wrench his shoulders from their sockets because he was so small and light.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Jaden McDaniels rated quite high defensively and considered underrated by many. Jrue Holiday considered by strong majority to be best defensive player. Jaren Jackson not rated very high.
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Yeah, you can tell the players only care about man-to-man defense because they underrate the big guys who are actually much more important because they're a key part of TEAM defense. Players are just thinking "who's the biggest pest?"
 
A very fun piece by the Athletic. From it:

“(The Blazers) haven’t really won that much,” the player who voted for Lillard said. “I know he’s a great player individually, but … that’s what happens when you shoot that much. And then just over his career, he (hasn’t) won that much. It’s not his fault, in particular, but I just think he’s a little overhyped.”

Notice "... the player who voted for Lillard...". If he got 3.7% of the overrated votes, and there was only one player that voted for him, then that means he got 1 vote out of 27. Trae Young got 4.

It's interesting but not statistically relevant.

He ALSO might be right, given how much pub Dame gets and he isn't even a shoe-in to make an all-NBA team this year in spite of it being arguably his best.
 
Ed O said:
“I know he’s a great player individually, but … that’s what happens when you shoot that much
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It's hard to put that on Dame. We have had some REALLY bad teams and I think he has tried to defer to get other guys involved, but eventually he gets frustrated when people aren't hitting shots.

At the same time, Dame jacking 30+ footers as soon as he crosses half court is not really a great offense.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's hard to put that on Dame. We have had some REALLY bad teams and I think he has tried to defer to get other guys involved, but eventually he gets frustrated when people aren't hitting shots.

At the same time, Dame jacking 30+ footers as soon as he crosses half court is not really a great offense.
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Dame making 35% at 35ft is more points per possession than shooting 50% inside the arc.

Just sayin'
 
Phatguysrule said:
Dame making 35% at 35ft is more points per possession than shooting 50% inside the arc.

Just sayin'
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I know and I’m not necessarily against those shots but I worry about what it does to the flow of offense. Overall teams just play better with good ball movement. Getting players involved. Breaking down a defense. I have never really liked possessions where the ball doesn’t move at all
 
HailBlazers said:
Not the last two years.
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I think the fact that fans still show up is the reason i give. If Denver or Memphis were as bad, there'd be no one in attendence. I lived in Denver. Until recently, Only a few diehards cared. But i agree with you as well. Because of the tank, there have been crowds with WAY more opposing fans than in the past. There's always been opposing fans there, but not in these numbers. I couldn't believe how many Raptors fans were there this year. I felt like the game was in Toronto. It seemed like half the crowd for the last Warriors game was from the Bay Area. Plus the Warriors fans were so annoying with all the ooh & ahh-ing. If the Warriors farted they ooh'd & ahh'd. Ridiculous. With a return to winning this will become less and less IMO.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I know and I’m not necessarily against those shots but I worry about what it does to the flow of offense. Overall teams just play better with good ball movement. Getting players involved. Breaking down a defense. I have never really liked possessions where the ball doesn’t move at all
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I hear you, and I agree about ball movement. But you can get better ball movement with more space. If we had better players around Dame it should make their lives much easier on offense.

The point of being able to shoot out that far means they should have to guard you out there. And if they put a single defender on Dame out there, he can pretty much blow by them.

Then you're playing 5 on 4.

If they throw 2 at him, somebody is wide open.
 
Dame is the cooler "Dalton" from Road House. I could here him saying "opinions vary".
 
Ed O said:
A very fun piece by the Athletic. From it:

“(The Blazers) haven’t really won that much,” the player who voted for Lillard said. “I know he’s a great player individually, but … that’s what happens when you shoot that much. And then just over his career, he (hasn’t) won that much. It’s not his fault, in particular, but I just think he’s a little overhyped.”

Notice "... the player who voted for Lillard...". If he got 3.7% of the overrated votes, and there was only one player that voted for him, then that means he got 1 vote out of 27. Trae Young got 4.

It's interesting but not statistically relevant.

He ALSO might be right, given how much pub Dame gets and he isn't even a shoe-in to make an all-NBA team this year in spite of it being arguably his best.
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Article said 108 players were surveyed. So 4 of em called Dame overrated.
 
I remember when we were first talking about drafting Dame, I was turned off by the fact that his name is Damian.

All I could think about was The Omen and how it's a weird name.

He has completely redefined the name in pop culture. If I heard someone with the name Damian, I'd think of Dame. Kinda special honestly.
 
e_blazer said:
The most overrated question shows 54 votes, so two envious sourpusses voted for Dame.
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Actually Pat Bev said Dame was one of the best he's played. It was Jason Tatum. He said as much last off season.
 
tykendo said:
Actually Pat Bev said Dame was one of the best he's played. It was Jason Tatum. He said as much last off season.
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his Ruffles are disgusting, avoid those flaming hot BBQ
 
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