Another let it bake article

[Nate]

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/5/12/1...-cap-space-patient-damian-lillard-cj-mccollum

Interesting opinion. A lot of the names that I've seen thrown around here. I was looking up Teletovic, Jared Dudley, and some other guys like that the other day and pretty much thought the same thing, we already have that in Meyers. Hopefully we don't have to spend too much money on him, cause his 3pt shooting is nice.

 

[e_blazer]

Waiting a year isn't an option. Once Dame's new salary and the new salaries of other guys we re-sign kick in, there won't be money available to make a run at a max-level FA for years. It's now or never...well, at least, now or never in Dame's success window.

 

[Nate]

I wonder if those comments from dame about not letting anyone change the culture was about anyone specific? Maybe even Howard? Who else could change it besides durant or lebron?

"The most interesting option is actually an unrestricted free agent. Miami's Hassan Whiteside proved that he can occasionally draw a double team in the post and create space by diving to the basket off ball screens. He's a beast on the boards and his impact on team defense is catching up to his gaudy shot-blocking numbers. He's also just 26 years old, so in theory, he could grow with McCollum and Lillard. On the court, he's a great fit to upgrade Portland's center position.

But there are still questions. Will he be willing to defer on offense as much as he did this year once he gets paid like a star? He did accept coming off the bench and improved his free throw shooting this season, so he could be more mature and ready to put in work than he was in the past. Or, he could have just been smart enough to not cause problems in a contract year."

 

[Nate]

Waiting a year isn't an option. Once Dame's new salary and the new salaries of other guys we re-sign kick in, there won't be money available to make a run at a max-level FA for years. It's now or never...well, at least, now or never in Dame's success window.

I think the salary going up every year is more than enough of a reason to sign a big name now.

 

[Natebishop3]

Yup... the cap space is definitely a "now or never" situation. With Dame kicking in, and then CJ/Plumlee next summer, and most likely Crabbe/Harkless and possibly Meyers.... there won't be any room left.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I told you guys the more people would be on " Let the cake bake" bandwagon.

 

[B-Roy]

I'm gonna let it bake but I'm also gonna go out and buy the big scoop of ice cream I'm putting on top.

 

[riverman]

I told you guys the more people would be on " Let the cake bake" bandwagon.

but just who are these "more people"?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Yup... the cap space is definitely a "now or never" situation. With Dame kicking in, and then CJ/Plumlee next summer, and most likely Crabbe/Harkless and possibly Meyers.... there won't be any room left.

I didn't realize this. Off the let it bake wagon again!

 

[Strenuus]

I told you guys the more people would be on " Let the cake bake" bandwagon.

Because an article by one person means 100 people think it.

Logic.

 

[B-Roy]

Because an article by one person means 100 people think it.

Logic.

BGD only cares about big names anyways. He should become a Mavs fan I'm sure he would enjoy Mark Cuban's decision making.

 

[TBpup]

2016/17 Salary or Projected

Lillard - $21,597,000
Aminu ---$7,680,965
Davis -----$6,666,667
McCollum$3,219,579
Vonleh ---$2,751,360
Plumlee---$2,328,530
Varejao---$1,984,005 (stretched)
Leonard-----$7,000,000
Harkless-----$7,000,000
Crabbe-------$7,000,000
Montero--------$874,636 (non-guaranteed)
Alexander------$874-636 (non-guaranteed)
Total-----$68,977,378

If the cap is $92,000,000, that leaves just over $21,000,000 to sign 4 players. That is also guesstimating what Meyers, Mo and Crabbe get and that number could be smaller. Regardless, , if you are signing someone of any value, they will come in and take minutes from the top 9. So who do you want to sign and whose minutes go away? If it's someone in the front court, does that mean Vonleh gets no minutes to develop at all?

Neil has the cash to go do get an impact player but it's tough to get big names here and whom do you fit into this group that wants to show up early, work out extra, have dinners with the team etc?

 

[crandc]

I don't let it bake. I bake.

 

[Sinobas]

I don't let it bake. I bake.

The oven bakes it, you just sit back and watch it happen. Or maybe you watch TV while it bakes.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Evan Turner has always interested me. Boston wants to keep him for the same reason we might want him....But at what price?

"Turner's 10.5 points per game isn't particularly impressive, but it was enough to make him the leading scorer on a deep Celtics bench. His primary instinct isn't usually to score, but he's the only one on this team, outside of Isaiah Thomas, capable of creating his own shot when he needs to do so.

One of Turner's most valuable assets is his versatility. He can guard multiple positions and fill a variety of different roles on the other end of the court. Often times the Celtics entrusted him as the primary ball handler when Thomas wasn't on the court, as he was the team's best option to run the offense when their All-Star point guard needed a breather."

http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/5/1...rs-value?_ga=1.136300089.920848576.1400884431

 

[Natebishop3]

Evan Turner has always interested me. Boston wants to keep him for the same reason we might want him....But at what price?

"Turner's 10.5 points per game isn't particularly impressive, but it was enough to make him the leading scorer on a deep Celtics bench. His primary instinct isn't usually to score, but he's the only one on this team, outside of Isaiah Thomas, capable of creating his own shot when he needs to do so.

One of Turner's most valuable assets is his versatility. He can guard multiple positions and fill a variety of different roles on the other end of the court. Often times the Celtics entrusted him as the primary ball handler when Thomas wasn't on the court, as he was the team's best option to run the offense when their All-Star point guard needed a breather."

http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/5/1...rs-value?_ga=1.136300089.920848576.1400884431

I really like Turner.... but he's not a good shooter. He's a HORRIBLE three point shooter. 24% for the season and 21% for the playoffs.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4239/evan-turner

People complain about Aminu and Harkless, but he makes those two look like Steph Curry.

 

[Sinobas]

2016/17 Salary or Projected

Lillard - $21,597,000
Aminu ---$7,680,965
Davis -----$6,666,667
McCollum$3,219,579
Vonleh ---$2,751,360
Plumlee---$2,328,530
Varejao---$1,984,005 (stretched)
Leonard-----$7,000,000
Harkless-----$7,000,000
Crabbe-------$7,000,000
Montero--------$874,636 (non-guaranteed)
Alexander------$874-636 (non-guaranteed)
Total-----$68,977,378

If the cap is $92,000,000, that leaves just over $21,000,000 to sign 4 players. That is also guesstimating what Meyers, Mo and Crabbe get and that number could be smaller. Regardless, , if you are signing someone of any value, they will come in and take minutes from the top 9. So who do you want to sign and whose minutes go away? If it's someone in the front court, does that mean Vonleh gets no minutes to develop at all?

Neil has the cash to go do get an impact player but it's tough to get big names here and whom do you fit into this group that wants to show up early, work out extra, have dinners with the team etc?

What do you mean to sign 4 players? You have 11 players in your projection (not counting Varejao). And if we sign a big man, I could see us not resigning Leonard..at least not at 7 mil.

And speaking of Vonleh, he had a lot of developmental minutes this year and did not show any improvement. So I don't care about giving him minutes.

3rd point, why is Ed Davis contract 6,666,667 rather than 6,666,666.66? If I were him, I'd have sacrificed those 44 cents (really 22 cents after taxes), in order to get a better number.

 

[Natebishop3]

What do you mean to sign 4 players? You have 11 players in your projection (not counting Varejao). And if we sign a big man, I could see us not resigning Leonard..at least not at 7 mil.

And speaking of Vonleh, he had a lot of developmental minutes this year and did not show any improvement. So I don't care about giving him minutes.

3rd point, why is Ed Davis contract 6,666,667 rather than 6,666,666.66? If I were him, I'd have sacrificed those 44 cents (really 22 cents after taxes), in order to get a better number.

He didn't show ANY improvement? That's a bold statement.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I really like Turner.... but he's not a good shooter. He's a HORRIBLE three point shooter. 24% for the season and 21% for the playoffs.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4239/evan-turner

People complain about Aminu and Harkless, but he makes those two look like Steph Curry.

I am thinking as him more of a replacement for Henderson. I think we view Terry's offense as 3 pt oriented, but as CJ, Hendo and LMA have shown, the mid range shot is effective as well. Neither Aminu nor Harkless excel at it, but apparently Turner is getting better at it......

"Turner is a jack-of-all-trades. He doesn't dominate in any particular area, but he's solid in pretty much all of them. The one area he struggles with is his outside shooting, but he's deadly from mid-range and quietly produced an efficient season, shooting a career-high 45.6 percent from the floor."

 

[Sinobas]

He didn't show ANY improvement? That's a bold statement.

I didn't see any, did you?

 

[Orion Bailey]

The oven bakes it, you just sit back and watch it happen. Or maybe you watch TV while it bakes.

That one went right over your head.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I didn't see any, did you?

I did. Most importantly and probably the most was his confidence.
He also improved team D and body positioning on rebounds.

 

[Blazer Freak]

Kevin Pelton was talking a LOT about the Blazers going after Bazemore and having him start at the three and sliding down to 1/2 when CJ or Dame was on the bench. This was of course with his thought that Aminu is now going to strictly be a stretch 4.

 

[TBpup]

What do you mean to sign 4 players? You have 11 players in your projection (not counting Varejao). And if we sign a big man, I could see us not resigning Leonard..at least not at 7 mil.

And speaking of Vonleh, he had a lot of developmental minutes this year and did not show any improvement. So I don't care about giving him minutes.

3rd point, why is Ed Davis contract 6,666,667 rather than 6,666,666.66? If I were him, I'd have sacrificed those 44 cents (really 22 cents after taxes), in order to get a better number.

Regardless of whether you keep Leonard or let him walk, you either have 11 players with 4 slots you can fill or 10 players with 5 slots you can fill....same total. If Meyers leaves and you sign someone like Dwight, that more than eats up any missing salary from Leonard being gone and a good portion of the cap space left.

 

[Sinobas]

I think we'd be better off keeping Henderson than going after Evan Turner. Guards that can't shoot don't really work in this offense. You might make an exception for a superb defender like Tony Allen, or someone who brought another asset like being great at taking it to the rim.

 

[Sinobas]

I did. Most importantly and probably the most was his confidence.
He also improved team D and body positioning on rebounds.

Hmm...what does an increase in confidence without an increase in ability do for you? He was more confident in putting up bricks?

His production was even worse than it was as a rookie.

 

[dviss1]

I'm gonna let it bake but I'm also gonna go out and buy the big scoop of ice cream I'm putting on top.

Fuck a damn cake... Lets bake a pie! I want mine ala mode...

 

[BBert]

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/5/12/1...-cap-space-patient-damian-lillard-cj-mccollum

Interesting opinion. A lot of the names that I've seen thrown around here. I was looking up Teletovic, Jared Dudley, and some other guys like that the other day and pretty much thought the same thing, we already have that in Meyers. Hopefully we don't have to spend too much money on him, cause his 3pt shooting is nice.

Charles Barkley was adamant that the Blazers have to sign Meyers (and Crabbe). He said it like three or four times. And Shaq and Co. didn't tell him he was a dolt. Apparently Charles sees a significant benefit to the team in Meyers' skill set that a lot of posters here do not.

 

[B-Roy]

2016/17 Salary or Projected

Lillard - $21,597,000
Aminu ---$7,680,965
Davis -----$6,666,667
McCollum$3,219,579
Vonleh ---$2,751,360
Plumlee---$2,328,530
Varejao---$1,984,005 (stretched)
Leonard-----$7,000,000
Harkless-----$7,000,000
Crabbe-------$7,000,000
Montero--------$874,636 (non-guaranteed)
Alexander------$874-636 (non-guaranteed)
Total-----$68,977,378

If the cap is $92,000,000, that leaves just over $21,000,000 to sign 4 players. That is also guesstimating what Meyers, Mo and Crabbe get and that number could be smaller. Regardless, , if you are signing someone of any value, they will come in and take minutes from the top 9. So who do you want to sign and whose minutes go away? If it's someone in the front court, does that mean Vonleh gets no minutes to develop at all?

Neil has the cash to go do get an impact player but it's tough to get big names here and whom do you fit into this group that wants to show up early, work out extra, have dinners with the team etc?

Don't think your numbers are correct.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think we'd be better off keeping Henderson than going after Evan Turner. Guards that can't shoot don't really work in this offense. You might make an exception for a superb defender like Tony Allen, or someone who brought another asset like being great at taking it to the rim.

True but Turner shot better than Henderson this last year. Not from deep, but over all. Including mid range. I like Gerald, but if he leaves and we can get a guy who can run the offense with CJ or Dame on the court, and play defense....... then that might be an upgrade.