Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft?

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Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

Faried over Smith was such a no-brainer! I'd love to hear the story behind this.

According to Ford and Simmons more than one team had Oden's knee red-flagged so KP's "Oden's knees are prestine" was a blatant lie.

Though I wouldn't want to to spend 12.5 million on a player like Faried. No way Portland would have given him that. So he'd be gone by now anyway...though we might have gotten something nice in trade.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

He was a cap casualty. But the fact that they drafted him is good on them. Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Adams, Harden, Jackson...they have a very talented roster put together through drafting.

Is Jackson really that great? Maybe he'd be impressive if we weren't living in a golden age of point guards.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

He was a cap casualty. But the fact that they drafted him is good on them. Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Adams, Harden, Jackson...they have a very talented roster put together through drafting.

But weren't they given? Like Durant, Westbrook and Harden were all the best players available.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

But weren't they given? Like Durant, Westbrook and Harden were all the best players available.

Westbrook was considered a big reach at the time as draft mocks had him going about where we were picking (#13). I can't speak on Harden but the next pick ended up being ROY (T. Evans). OKC has drafted about as well as you possibly could. Ibaka and Jackson in the late 1st round? Getting Adams at the tail end of the lottery was also very good. Jury is still out on Jeremy Lamb however.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

Is Jackson really that great? Maybe he'd be impressive if we weren't living in a golden age of point guards.

Hell ya, is that a serious question? He's their backup that plenty of teams would want as their starter, and he was taken 24th, very rare to find that kind of talent so late, it was a great pick.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

But weren't they given? Like Durant, Westbrook and Harden were all the best players available.

Westbrook wasn't projected by most to be that good, and Durant....well...we drafted Greg Oden ahead of him, so OKC gets points for that if you're comparing our two franchises.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

Westbrook was considered a big reach at the time as draft mocks had him going about where we were picking (#13). I can't speak on Harden but the next pick ended up being ROY (T. Evans). OKC has drafted about as well as you possibly could. Ibaka and Jackson in the late 1st round? Getting Adams at the tail end of the lottery was also very good. Jury is still out on Jeremy Lamb however.

Yeah makes sense. They just don't know what to do with them afterwards! ;)
 
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Yeah makes sense. They just don't know what to do with them afterwards! ;)

Which really sucks if you're the GM, right? They are going to have to trade Reggie Jackson or let him go in free agency. No way the owner is going to pay out for Westbrook's backup.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

I'd say the OKC is right up there with us, and the Spurs.

The Clippers drafts haven't been to shabby either.
 
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Which really sucks if you're the GM, right? They are going to have to trade Reggie Jackson or let him go in free agency. No way the owner is going to pay out for Westbrook's backup.

Sucks to be a OKC fan
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

Saying Us over the Spurs makes you look like a homer.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

He was a cap casualty. But the fact that they drafted him is good on them. Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Adams, Harden, Jackson...they have a very talented roster put together through drafting.

Harden wasn't a cap casualty. They held his Bird Rights and could have resigned him to a max. extension without any salary cap implications.

He was a stupidity casualty of their tight wad, hillbilly owners. They could have had a potential dynasty capable of winning several championships, but they we so worried about possibly paying a few million in luxury tax, they chose to keep the rotting corpse of Kendrick Perkins over James Harden. They had already signed Ibaka to a $49 million extension and were adamant about not giving Harden a max extension if it meant they'd have to pay any luxury tax. Even after giving Harden a max. extension, they could have easily avoided paying the tax by amnestying Perkins. But, because they were too fucking cheap to pay the worthless Perkins $23.5 million to suck for someone else over the last three years of his deal, they gave away Harden for Houston's table scraps. And, after all was said and done, with the luxury tax threshold going up, they would have only had to pay the tax for one season even if they kept Perkins.

So, their choices were:

a) Give Harden the max. extension, keep Perkins and pay a few million in luxury tax for one year.
b) Give Harden the max. extension, eat the final three years of Perkins contract and pay no tax.
c) Give away Harden, keep Perkins and pay no tax.

They made the monumentally dumb decision to go with option c, keep the worthless Perkins and give Harden away. Yeah, and how's that worked out? Perkins had a PER = 6.3 last season, the worst PER of any starter in the league. He's been even worse in the playoffs. For the 2102-13 playoffs, Perkins PER was -0.6 with a WS/48 of -0.110. They could have easily picked up any random big body with a pulse from the D League on a minimum contract that would have out produced Perkins by a mile.

But, in the end, I'm glad their tightwad, lying, hillbilly owners decided to pinch their pennies and chose Perkins over Harden. If they would have kept Harden, it would have been painful to watch. I'm not talking about seeing the Thunder win multiple titles, that would have been bad enough. I'm talking about watching them shatter the all-time record for most undeserved free throw attempts. Last year, Durant, Harden and Westbrook combined for other 25 FTs per game. Man, that would be painful to watch night in and night out. So, thanks for being cheap and stupid Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon. You saved us from watching a team a team full of floppers win multiple NBA titles.

BNM
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

Harden wasn't a cap casualty. They held his Bird Rights and could have resigned him to a max. extension without any salary cap implications.

He was a stupidity casualty of their tight wad, hillbilly owners. They could have had a potential dynasty capable of winning several championships, but they we so worried about possibly paying a few million in luxury tax, they chose to keep the rotting corpse of Kendrick Perkins over James Harden. They had already signed Ibaka to a $49 million extension and were adamant about not giving Harden a max extension if it meant they'd have to pay any luxury tax. Even after giving Harden a max. extension, they could have easily avoided paying the tax by amnestying Perkins. But, because they were too fucking cheap to pay the worthless Perkins $23.5 million to suck for someone else over the last three years of his deal, they gave away Harden for Houston's table scraps. And, after all was said and done, with the luxury tax threshold going up, they would have only had to pay the tax for one season even if they kept Perkins.

So, their choices were:

a) Give Harden the max. extension, keep Perkins and pay a few million in luxury tax for one year.
b) Give Harden the max. extension, eat the final three years of Perkins contract and pay no tax.
c) Give away Harden, keep Perkins and pay no tax.

They made the monumentally dumb decision to go with option c, keep the worthless Perkins and give Harden away. Yeah, and how's that worked out? Perkins had a PER = 6.3 last season, the worst PER of any starter in the league. He's been even worse in the playoffs. For the 2102-13 playoffs, Perkins PER was -0.6 with a WS/48 of -0.110. They could have easily picked up any random big body with a pulse from the D League on a minimum contract that would have out produced Perkins by a mile.

But, in the end, I'm glad their tightwad, lying, hillbilly owners decided to pinch their pennies and chose Perkins over Harden. If they would have kept Harden, it would have been painful to watch. I'm not talking about seeing the Thunder win multiple titles, that would have been bad enough. I'm talking about watching them shatter the all-time record for most undeserved free throw attempts. Last year, Durant, Harden and Westbrook combined for other 25 FTs per game. Man, that would be painful to watch night in and night out. So, thanks for being cheap and stupid Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon. You saved us from watching a team a team full of floppers win multiple NBA titles.

BNM

Even if they had still decided to deal Harden, they should have been able to get more than the load of crap they got from Houston. It's not even a case of 20/20 hindsight. We all knew that trade was shitty the first time we heard it.
 
Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

I don't think we're the best at either thing but we've done what we could within our ways and means. To me the draft is a crapshoot and pretty much always has been. The more important aspect to our recent success is not doing so much trading and changing coaches. Stotts in his third year with returning players has shown what a solid system can produce. The Spurs are the best in the league at most things and a lot of that stems from coaching stability as much as roster changes
 

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