Funny Are you kidding me?

[CupWizier]

James Harden just wants refs to call a fair game? Huh? James, you have been the recipient of very favorable officiating your whole career.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26629518/rockets-harden-wants-fair-chance-refs

 

[BBert]

Joe Borgia, the NBA's senior vice president of replay and referee operations, later told NBA TV that Green did not foul Harden on his last 3 attempt because Green was going across, not into, Harden's path, and Harden "jackknifed" his body so his feet made contact with Green.

Did those refs not get the memo that they are supposed to 'fall' for Harden initiating contact, and downright feigning contact, and reward him with foul shots?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

After we have our next kid in a couple of months I'd like to start working on the rule book and learning how to ref, just want to learn and get a different perspective as a fan and a player Harden seems like a guy I'd really like to punch but I'd appreciate seeing it how a ref would see it.
Harden really annoys me.

 

[Further]

Regardless of how you feel about Harden, he is correct that this game at least, was called differently than the regular season.

That’s how it’s always been, playoff basketball is more intense refs allow more contact. I’m fine with that as long as it’s consistent between teams. I like a more gritty game in the playoffs. A fair gritty game.

 

[Cugel]

I posted this thought in another thread:

There is nothing dignified about being a flopper and having to pick yourself up off of the floor 20x a game after looking like a douchebag. I don't like it when Dame looks for the call either. That last shot of his was a matter of him jumping into Durant. It was not a Durant foul. According to his reasoning he can jump and land wherever he wants as long as he was shooting and if he comes down on someone its a defensive foul. Its bulllshit and yes I fucking hate Harden's game. I don't care what D'antoni says, Durant is the most skilled offensive player in the league bar none.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's not Harden's fault. The refs have bought his flopping, so he expects it. Good or bad, just be consistent. They weren't in regards to him

 

[Cugel]

I am hoping for a GSW sweep.

 

[BBert]

I am hoping for a GSW sweep.

I'm hoping for 6 straight overtime games, haha

 

[wizenheimer]

I am hoping for a GSW sweep.

I hope both teams lose

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I thought Harden did a lot of pushing off and grabbing when he had the ball and was driving; but there were definitely several times when the defenders on his three point attempts came down in his space, and on him.

 

[CupWizier]

I thought Harden did a lot of pushing off and grabbing when he had the ball and was driving; but there were definitely several times when the defenders on his three point attempts came down in his space, and on him.

Not on that last shot though as Harden clearly jumped forward and even extended his legs to draw contact. No call was the right call.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Not on that last shot though as Harden clearly jumped forward and even extended his legs to draw contact. No call was the right call.

I agree with that.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's not Harden's fault. The refs have bought his flopping, so he expects it. Good or bad, just be consistent. They weren't in regards to him

Or...... that moron has never figured out that refs officiate differently in the playoffs.

 

[kjironman1]

I posted this thought in another thread:

There is nothing dignified about being a flopper and having to pick yourself up off of the floor 20x a game after looking like a douchebag. I don't like it when Dame looks for the call either. That last shot of his was a matter of him jumping into Durant. It was not a Durant foul. According to his reasoning he can jump and land wherever he wants as long as he was shooting and if he comes down on someone its a defensive foul. Its bulllshit and yes I fucking hate Harden's game. I don't care what D'antoni says, Durant is the most skilled offensive player in the league bar none.

And i "liked" it in the other thread also.

 

[Lanny]

After we have our next kid in a couple of months I'd like to start working on the rule book and learning how to ref, just want to learn and get a different perspective as a fan and a player Harden seems like a guy I'd really like to punch but I'd appreciate seeing it how a ref would see it.
Harden really annoys me.

If you punch Harden would you please hold him down while I get in a knock? Afterward, continue to hold him down while I give him a shave.

 

[dviss1]

It's not Harden's fault. The refs have bought his flopping, so he expects it. Good or bad, just be consistent. They weren't in regards to him

This.

Flopping is And always has been the referee's fault.

What happens if you reward your child when they whine?

They keep employing the tactic that gets them the results they want (i.e. More whining).

 

[e_blazer]

This seems like a good thread to post this ESPN story. The Rockets did an analysis of last year's WCF and concluded that they were robbed of the NBA title by poor officiating in Game 7. I wonder if they did an analysis of how many crappy calls on Harden and CP3 flops benefitted them in getting to the WCF last year.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26634745/rockets-audited-18-game-7-say-finals-bid-taken

 

[Cugel]

What a waste of time to analyze "poor officiating". Blaming the officiating is the single easiest thing to do after a loss. It's pointless. they will never overturn the outcome of the game and there won't be an asterisk either. Then again I wouldn't expect anything else from the Scuds.

 

[wizenheimer]

the two minute report is out; there are 3 incorrect calls and all three favored the Warriors. Curry got away with a foul on Harden that would have been his 6th foul so he shouldn't have been of the floor to sink that game-clinching three

 

[LuckyShot]

This is what happens when the NBA spends the regular season catering to his and his team's bullshit all year. But hey, it gave the media someone to slobber over and probably helped market the league and sell more merchandise. Was it worth it? Hell, maybe it was. Looks like if they don't, the entire Houston organization fucking bitches non-stop until they get their way anyway.

 

[e_blazer]

the two minute report is out; there are 3 incorrect calls and all three favored the Warriors. Curry got away with a foul on Harden that would have been his 6th foul so he shouldn't have been of the floor to sink that game-clinching three

Too bad that the crew blew so many critical calls. That said, for a team whose two main stars spend a great amount of effort every game trying to fool the refs into making calls in their favor, all I can say is karma's a bitch sometimes.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

This seems like a good thread to post this ESPN story. The Rockets did an analysis of last year's WCF and concluded that they were robbed of the NBA title by poor officiating in Game 7. I wonder if they did an analysis of how many crappy calls on Harden and CP3 flops benefitted them in getting to the WCF last year.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26634745/rockets-audited-18-game-7-say-finals-bid-taken

Interesting read. I would like to see the results if the Rockets did not include doubtful calls that could not be determined what was correct even after the video review. I think I could guess though that the referees were not happy to read this; especially the Rockets saying that older referees were most biased against them. I almost got the feeling last night that the referees were trying to make some kind of a point on some of the non-calls. BTW, I despise these two teams equally; just commenting on what I thought i saw.

 

[PDXFonz]

James Harden is that cheating ex who just doesn’t understand why the Refs don’t trust him and won’t give him what he wants.

 

[e_blazer]

Interesting read. I would like to see the results if the Rockets did not include doubtful calls that could not be determined what was correct even after the video review. I think I could guess though that the referees were not happy to read this; especially the Rockets saying that older referees were most biased against them. I almost got the feeling last night that the referees were trying to make some kind of a point on some of the non-calls. BTW, I despise these two teams equally; just commenting on what I thought i saw.

Agree. The thing I think is most interesting about this is the timing of the report being released. Right after feeling like they got hosed in yesterday’s game, suddenly a report that was never officially filed with the league just happens to get leaked to the press. Not exactly subtle. I suspect the league will come down hard on the Rockets for releasing this.

 

[Minstrel]

Interesting read. I would like to see the results if the Rockets did not include doubtful calls that could not be determined what was correct even after the video review. I think I could guess though that the referees were not happy to read this; especially the Rockets saying that older referees were most biased against them. I almost got the feeling last night that the referees were trying to make some kind of a point on some of the non-calls. BTW, I despise these two teams equally; just commenting on what I thought i saw.

Also, I'm not sure if I agree or not with "crediting" points that came from overcoming bad calls to the team that fouled. Like, if Curry was fouled and it was uncalled and then he hits a three-pointer, the Rockets counted it as more points they lost because if the foul had been called, Curry would be shooting free throws and never hits the three.

It makes "alternate universe" sense, but I'm not sure that's how a team should be figuring out how much they were screwed by bad calls.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Also, I'm not sure if I agree or not with "crediting" points that came from overcoming bad calls to the team that fouled. Like, if Curry was fouled and it was uncalled and then he hits a three-pointer, the Rockets counted it as more points they lost because if the foul had been called, Curry would be shooting free throws and never hits the three.

It makes "alternate universe" sense, but I'm not sure that's how a team should be figuring out how much they were screwed by bad calls.

The shot could have been made by another and resulted in the same score.