AT LEAST HE'S WORKING ON HIS GAME.......

[THE HCP]

No joke, I will give Marty his props. He has been at the arena for 20 minutes shooting jumpers with shooting coach John Townsend! He showed up at 2:30 on a game day. He must realize he needs some practice. Good for him.

 

[Luther]

Nobody is going to do well in limited minutes. Especially a spot up 3 pt. shooter. I just want him to come in and play solid defense and rebound. Everything else is a bonus. It pisses me off because we've all seen what he can do given the opportunity. Trade the poor guy and let him have a successful career elsewhere.

 

[STOMP]

No joke, I will give Marty his props. He has been at the arena for 20 minutes shooting jumpers with shooting coach John Townsend! He showed up at 2:30 on a game day. He must realize he needs some practice. Good for him.

12:30?

glad to hear he's staying focused

STOMP

 

[julius]

No joke, I will give Marty his props. He has been at the arena for 20 minutes shooting jumpers with shooting coach John Townsend! He showed up at 2:30 on a game day. He must realize he needs some practice. Good for him.

do you know if he's working on other parts of his game? Concentrating mostly on shooting won't do him any good, because that's a lot of his problem. If he's not hitting outside shots, the rest of his game suffers. He should concentrate on dribbling and creating a shot off of the dribble.

 

[barfo]

12:30?

glad to hear he's staying focused

STOMP

It's later than you think.
They are playing in OKC today.

barfo

 

[THE HCP]

It's later than you think.
They are playing in OKC today.

barfo

Thanks B!

 

[LameR]

It's just not a great situation. We saw what he could do with extended minutes for a month in January averaging almost 20ppg (think it was January). He's not going to get half those minutes playing behind Batum and with Rudy still here. Factor in Cunningham at SF and Bayless getting time at SG and it's just not a good spot for him.

 

[Shooter]

Webster just looks embarrassingly bad out there right now. When he puts up a shot--any shot--I fully expect him to miss. So far, he hasn't disappointed me. He looks completely lost on the floor, and seems to have no idea how to get anything going. I'm not quite sure I've ever seen anyone play as badly as he has the last two games . . .

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Nobody is going to do well in limited minutes. Especially a spot up 3 pt. shooter. I just want him to come in and play solid defense and rebound. Everything else is a bonus. It pisses me off because we've all seen what he can do given the opportunity. Trade the poor guy and let him have a successful career elsewhere.

Like Travis Outlaw and Sergio Rodriguez?

 

[KingSpeed]

Nobody is going to do well in limited minutes. .

Nobody? All the great teams have had role playing three point shooters who helped their team in limited minutes. If he can't hit shots because he's not playing 40+ minutes, then we need to replace him. On that note, I just looked at the list of the Top 50 three point shooters in the league and no one from our team is on it. That's not good. Batum (44%) doesn't qualify because of small sample size. Hopefully, he stays consistent for us. No one else is there though. Not Webster. Not Roy. Not Rudy. Not Bayless. Blake is there though. Outlaw doesn't qualify but he's shooting 39%.

 

[KingSpeed]

Like Travis Outlaw and Sergio Rodriguez?

or Frye?

D'oh! Another three point shooter we let go.

 

[KingSpeed]

It's just not a great situation. We saw what he could do with extended minutes for a month in January averaging almost 20ppg (think it was January). He's not going to get half those minutes playing behind Batum and with Rudy still here. Factor in Cunningham at SF and Bayless getting time at SG and it's just not a good spot for him.

We need him to get it together and make it happen in limited minutes. I don't expect 15 points out of him. Just make a couple open shots, please.

 

[Webster's Dictionary]

From the time that Martell has gotten here he has seemed to be all about confidence. When he has it, he looks pretty darn good, but when he doesn't have it he looks lost, confused, despondent, depressed, and downright bad. Part of me says as he goes on he will mature, but the other side says the magnitude of his swings points to him always having this problem.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Limited minutes or not, he still makes some good defensive plays each game. For those of you who know more about the game than just stats, it's plain that shooting is about the only aspect og his game that's suffering.

 

[Bob Dobalina]

Limited minutes or not, he still makes some good defensive plays each game. For those of you who know more about the game than just stats, it's plain that shooting is about the only aspect og his game that's suffering.

QFT! I'm not sure why this doesn't get brought up more often during the Webster bashing.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Limited minutes or not, he still makes some good defensive plays each game. For those of you who know more about the game than just stats, it's plain that shooting is about the only aspect og his game that's suffering.

I think that's the worst part for me--seeing that he can make some good defensive plays, and then seeing terrible defensive lapses or just getting outright abused on other defensive possessions. If he played consistently solid defense, then I wouldn't mind his offensive ineptitude so much.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I think that's the worst part for me--seeing that he can make some good defensive plays, and then seeing terrible defensive lapses or just getting outright abused on other defensive possessions. If he played consistently solid defense, then I wouldn't mind his offensive ineptitude so much.

We'll disgree on that as ALL players in the NBA get torched during a game. But as far as our defenders go, Webster is probably #3 or 4 on the team. But he is in a funk therwise. He just doesn't seem to be there.

Unless I could package him in a nice trade to pick up someone we really need, I see him as our #2 or 3 backup at both SF & SG. And that hurts as I was a mega Webster backer all along.

 

[Shooter]

Limited minutes or not, he still makes some good defensive plays each game. For those of you who know more about the game than just stats, it's plain that shooting is about the only aspect og his game that's suffering.

I disagree. I think his confidence is at an all-time low, and it's affecting every part of his game. He's not rebounding like he used to, and he got burned so badly by Durant on one play last night that I think I saw his uniform smoking.

 

[Webster's Dictionary]

Limited minutes or not, he still makes some good defensive plays each game. For those of you who know more about the game than just stats, it's plain that shooting is about the only aspect og his game that's suffering.

He makes defensive plays, yes, and I'm not going to single out the two plays he got burned by Durrant last night, because I did notice he played good defense after that, but as was just mentioned, he's not playing aggressively on defense right now. When was the last time you saw him swoop in for a big block? He's not as focused on D in general. Last night was an exception, and it was because he was guarding the second best scorer in the game right now and new he had to bring his shit.

Which is ultimately the most frustrating thing. I know he can be good. I sooo want him to be a great player for us because he's a nice guy and has a lot of talent, but he doesn't focus all the time.

Unfortunately I don't think Batum is immune to this either on the offensive end (though he's also younger) but he just always seems to be in on the play. Offensive or defensive end, he'll weak side rebound, get his hands in for steals, and challenge shots. His head is just almost always in the game.

With Nicolas shooting performances (though not as much as of late) I just think Batum will be the better player, so I'm left hoping that Webster can be a microwave.

 

[mook]

Nobody is going to do well in limited minutes.

Dante Cunningham does. Averaging 11 minutes/game, and a 14 PER (2 higher than Webster's career high). And you can't argue that Webster makes up for it on defense, because Cunningham is every bit the defender Webster is.

I wish I understood why we're carving out any minutes at all for Webster. He just doesn't look that good out there. His defense is good at times, but abysmal at other times.

The major argument on the offensive end is his three point shooting. He hasn't made a three pointer in 8 games. He's made 6 of them in the past 16 games. Does anybody really expect him to have fully turned this around and become a force under playoff pressure?

I think the major reason he hasn't been benched for Cunningham long ago is that he's a pretty dominant personality in the locker room. The coach doesn't want to disrupt chemistry while things are going well.

Which I guess I can get behind. Especially because Cunningham seems to perform no matter how you use him. If Webster continues to choke in the playoffs, I can easily see McMillan going to Cunningham, and Dante not missing a beat.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Dante Cunningham does. Averaging 11 minutes/game, and a 14 PER (2 higher than Webster's career high). And you can't argue that Webster makes up for it on defense, because Cunningham is every bit the defender Webster is.

I wish I understood why we're carving out any minutes at all for Webster. He just doesn't look that good out there. His defense is good at times, but abysmal at other times.

The major argument on the offensive end is his three point shooting. He hasn't made a three pointer in 8 games. He's made 6 of them in the past 16 games. Does anybody really expect him to have fully turned this around and become a force under playoff pressure?

I think the major reason he hasn't been benched for Cunningham long ago is that he's a pretty dominant personality in the locker room. The coach doesn't want to disrupt chemistry while things are going well.

Which I guess I can get behind. Especially because Cunningham seems to perform no matter how you use him. If Webster continues to choke in the playoffs, I can easily see McMillan going to Cunningham, and Dante not missing a beat.

Well said; no need to rock the boat before the off-season. If Maretll wilts in the playoffs and Dante swoops in and saves the day, awesome. If not, no big shakes; Martell and Dante are barely playing 16 minutes total right now, and that will likely go down in the playoffs.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Dante Cunningham does. Averaging 11 minutes/game, and a 14 PER (2 higher than Webster's career high). And you can't argue that Webster makes up for it on defense, because Cunningham is every bit the defender Webster is.

I wish I understood why we're carving out any minutes at all for Webster. He just doesn't look that good out there. His defense is good at times, but abysmal at other times.

The major argument on the offensive end is his three point shooting. He hasn't made a three pointer in 8 games. He's made 6 of them in the past 16 games. Does anybody really expect him to have fully turned this around and become a force under playoff pressure?

I think the major reason he hasn't been benched for Cunningham long ago is that he's a pretty dominant personality in the locker room. The coach doesn't want to disrupt chemistry while things are going well.

Which I guess I can get behind. Especially because Cunningham seems to perform no matter how you use him. If Webster continues to choke in the playoffs, I can easily see McMillan going to Cunningham, and Dante not missing a beat.

This is what I like about Webster. He seems to accept his role on the team, has kept on a (genuinely?) happy attitude. At some point I think he let all the pressure go (being the HS phenom) and has decided to enjoythe fact he has a decent contract and likes playing with this group of guys.

Webster looks like he is enjoying his time on the team these days. I wish I felt the same vibe from Rudy.

 

[BlazerBeliever]

Webster is done as far as I am concerned. He has no place on this team. I hope we trade him and Bayless this summer for a good point guard.

 

[maxiep]

As has been brought up throughout this thread, Webster's biggest issue is confidence. If I were Nate, I wouldn't let Webs try to find his groove from the three point line. I would run a play for him where he drives and scores in the paint. Once he tastes success on offense, it seems to steamroll. Unfortunately, the same thing can be said once he tastes failure.

That being said, his defense and hustle have been underrated by many on this board.

 

[BlazersBlood]

Sadly Webs hasn't shown any improvement and looks to have regressed. *Sigh* I have zero confidence in his shot and when he tries to shoot the ball after putting it on the floor it gets embarrassing. I'm not sure his problem is "fixable." It seems either you have it or you don't when it comes to being a cold blooded shooter.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Webster is done as far as I am concerned. He has no place on this team. I hope we trade him and Bayless this summer for a good point guard.

that would be a neat trick, given that neither really has much value. Maybe the Clippers will trade again?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Watching Martell is painful. I've never seen him take so many off-balanced jumpers and fade away three's like he has been doing lately. WTF is up with that?

 

[BlazerBeliever]

that would be a neat trick, given that neither really has much value. Maybe the Clippers will trade again?

KP is due to Pritchslap somebody, especially if he still has his job here.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I disagree. I think his confidence is at an all-time low, and it's affecting every part of his game. He's not rebounding like he used to, and he got burned so badly by Durant on one play last night that I think I saw his uniform smoking.

I can't think of a player in the NBA Durant hasn't burned. And THAT makes Webster a poor player????

 

[BGrantFan]

I can't think of a player in the NBA Durant hasn't burned. And THAT makes Webster a poor player????

Yeah, Durant abuses everybody. Still, Webster is a below average player right now, and this far into his career, it is far past time for him to beat out a Nic Batum.

The Webster contract extension may be the worst Pritchard signing of his era. At times, it would make more sense to just go small with Rudy or Bayless instead of giving Martell time on the court at SF.