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To date, Florida has played 2 high school teams and only 1 ranked team. In their 4 non high school games, they have won by 10 or less 3 times. Prior to the SEC championship game (if they make it that far) they will have played either 1 or 2 ranked teams- period. How is all this transferring to the #1 spot in the BCS? Doesn't strength of schedule mean anything at all?

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?poll=BCS
 
When 2/3 of the BCS is based off the human polls, your beef should be with the voters.
 
It was based a lot more on the computer and strength of schedule but everyone threw a fit because they couldn't manipulate it. ;)
 
Obama's going to change the BCS!
 
Black Mamba said:
Obama's going to change the BCS!
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I hope so.

To me, strength of schedule should be #1. Even if a team has one close loss to a top team, but 4 or 5 wins over other top teams, that can mean a #1 ranking. It should also matter is you win at home or the road. Florida's schedule is a joke. Again.
 
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I hope so.

To me, strength of schedule should be #1. Even if a team has one close loss to a top team, but 4 or 5 wins over other top teams, that can mean a #1 ranking. It should also matter is you win at home or the road. Florida's schedule is a joke. Again.
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So lame, you have something good going like college football, then a bunch of money gets involved and all of a sudden you get some kind of BS control apparatus up top to prevent the best from playing the best. I'm surprised Stern doesn't have a write in for who is in the NBA finals.
 
There is no good system when 119 teams play 12 games and you have to determine the best 2. Granted this system probably isn't the best but it is better than we had 15 years ago.
 
The Ducks have been screwed over so many times by the BCS that I stopped caring.
 
Either go back to the old bowl system or a playoff. Both are far superior to the BCS.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Either go back to the old bowl system or a playoff. Both are far superior to the BCS.
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that isn't even close to being true. the bcs absolutely is better than the old system.

you can argue that a playoff is better but there still has to be a way to determine who gets to play in it. and it appears likely that if there was a playoff now, the bcs is what would be used to determine those teams, so if the bcs sucks so bad, i assume you would be against that as well, right?
 
rocketeer said:
that isn't even close to being true. the bcs absolutely is better than the old system.

you can argue that a playoff is better but there still has to be a way to determine who gets to play in it. and it appears likely that if there was a playoff now, the bcs is what would be used to determine those teams, so if the bcs sucks so bad, i assume you would be against that as well, right?
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USC won a split of the national title without playing in the BCS title game. :dunno:
 
rocketeer said:
that isn't even close to being true. the bcs absolutely is better than the old system.

you can argue that a playoff is better but there still has to be a way to determine who gets to play in it. and it appears likely that if there was a playoff now, the bcs is what would be used to determine those teams, so if the bcs sucks so bad, i assume you would be against that as well, right?
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Oh, and my playoff system? Take the champs of the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Big East, Pac 10, SEC, and then the top two teams that didn't win according to the BCS rankings. Also, same rule applies for non-BCS conference teams like Boise State. If they are ranked in the Top 12 and win their conference, they get in over a higher ranked team from a BCS conference. Also, seeds are determined by winning a conference, meaning that Alabama would be the #8 seed right now. If you can't win your conference, you can't cry about being left out of the playoff.

At this point, that would mean my playoff would look like this.

(8) Alabama @ (1) Florida
(7) Oregon @ (2) Texas
(6) Miami @ (3) Boise State
(5) Iowa @ (4) Cincy

Obviously, this will change, but I believe that this system gives the best opportunity to all FBS teams to compete for a title, and it doesn't exclude a very good team (Alabama? USC perhaps) who happens to not win their conference. It would make for even better OOC games as well, since SOS is a big part of the BCS computer rankings.

After the first games, bowls are used as neutral sites.
 
rocketeer said:
that isn't even close to being true. the bcs absolutely is better than the old system.

you can argue that a playoff is better but there still has to be a way to determine who gets to play in it. and it appears likely that if there was a playoff now, the bcs is what would be used to determine those teams, so if the bcs sucks so bad, i assume you would be against that as well, right?
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I guess I don't understand. NCAA basketball has an extremely successful playoff system. Why can't NCAA football follow suit? I realize that football is a different sport, one which plays much fewer games, but somehow the NFL is able to have playoffs. If the NCAA can figure out a way to have a basketball tournament, I don't understand why they can't figure out something similar for football.
 
rocketeer said:
that isn't even close to being true. the bcs absolutely is better than the old system.

you can argue that a playoff is better but there still has to be a way to determine who gets to play in it. and it appears likely that if there was a playoff now, the bcs is what would be used to determine those teams, so if the bcs sucks so bad, i assume you would be against that as well, right?
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Baloney.

The BCS gets the top 2 teams, like, almost never. That right there makes it a sham. Period.
 
All I know is the Coaches Poll should not be allowed anywhere NEAR the BCS calculation.

Or at least not the SEC Coaches votes :P
 
Natebishop3 said:
I guess I don't understand. NCAA basketball has an extremely successful playoff system. Why can't NCAA football follow suit? I realize that football is a different sport, one which plays much fewer games, but somehow the NFL is able to have playoffs. If the NCAA can figure out a way to have a basketball tournament, I don't understand why they can't figure out something similar for football.
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because like you said, football is a different sport with fewer games. you can't have a 64 team playoff for football. even a 16 team playoff for football seems crazy.

the only thing that really makes sense to somewhat fix the "problems" people constantly talk about is an 8 team playoff similar to what papag suggested. of course then you could still end up with undefeated boise state or tcu being left out or a consensus top 5 team with one loss like alabama, florida, or usc(or both) being left out so it's not like this system would in any way get rid of the controversy.

let's say this system was instituted last season. the playoff would have included oklahoma, florida, cincinnati, penn state, usc, virginia tech, texas, and utah. one loss alabama ranked 4th in the country, undefeated boise state, and one loss texas tech(ranked 7th) would all miss out. isn't the point of a playoff to make sure the best teams are playing for the championship?
 
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how often did the previous bowl system get the top 2 teams to play for the national title?
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They don't- but they don't have to. That's the point you missed. Neither does the BCS. I can only think of 1 year when they clearly had the top 2 teams. The BCS and the old bowl system showcased great games- but neither genuinely provide a national champion. Except with the BCS we get a fictional national champion.
 
rocketeer said:
because like you said, football is a different sport with fewer games. you can't have a 64 team playoff for football. even a 16 team playoff for football seems crazy.

the only thing that really makes sense to somewhat fix the "problems" people constantly talk about is an 8 team playoff similar to what papag suggested. of course then you could still end up with undefeated boise state or tcu being left out or a consensus top 5 team with one loss like alabama, florida, or usc(or both) being left out so it's not like this system would in any way get rid of the controversy.

let's say this system was instituted last season. the playoff would have included oklahoma, florida, cincinnati, penn state, usc, virginia tech, texas, and utah. one loss alabama ranked 4th in the country, undefeated boise state, and one loss texas tech(ranked 7th) would all miss out. isn't the point of a playoff to make sure the best teams are playing for the championship?
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Why can't it be 16 teams in a playoff, because of one extra week?


let's say this system was instituted last season. the playoff would have included oklahoma, florida, cincinnati, penn state, usc, virginia tech, texas, and utah. one loss alabama ranked 4th in the country, undefeated boise state, and one loss texas tech(ranked 7th) would all miss out. isn't the point of a playoff to make sure the best teams are playing for the championship?
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Got that covered. Have a Bye week situation and give 12 teams a chance to play in the post-season like the NFL. More than fair, not a huge playoff either.

They take a month off between these bowl games....
 
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As you probably know by now, Alabama took over the top spot in the BCS rankings.
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In what alternate dimension? As of now, Florida is #1 and Alabama is #2 in the BCS.

You are referring to the AP poll.
 
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