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Who do you guys think is the best president in the history of the United States of America?
 
I honestly don't know enough history to answer that question. It's over my head. If anyone puts down a President from the last 40 years their an idiot.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 31 2006, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly don't know enough history to answer that question. It's over my head. If anyone puts down a President from the last 40 years their an idiot.</div>Same.but you can def argue Presidents like Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, JFK...and most importantly Bill "I didn't have sexual relations with this woman" Clinton.
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Bill Clinton is nowhere close to being a top President ever, he didn't really do anything historic...well unless you count what happend under the desk.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 31 2006, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bill Clinton is nowhere close to being a top President ever, he didn't really do anything historic...well unless you count what happend under the desk.</div>I was just kidding - I just wanted to mention his incident. ha
 
Abraham Lincoln. he faced the biggest constitutional crisis every when States begun to succeed. He had to organize an army to invade his own countrymens lands, on top of that he had to deal with incompitant general after incompitant general. He faced some of the largest anti-war rallied ever, he was in a city which was practically besieged. He had to negotitate carefully with foreign nations like France, England and Russia so they wouldn't get involved in the souther inserection. He had to over step the Constitution so far that even today those with a great insight into the law still argue wether it was legal or not, at the same time he did that he also preserved the constitution and this country became one of only a few nations in history to hold a free election in the mist of a civil war. Once the war was nearing its end, he had to find a way to bring back the former Confederate states in a way to "make the feel welcomed, and honored", while at the save time ending the institution of slavery, an institution which brough the south close to 3 billion dollars annually, and which the rest of their entire economy rested.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 31 2006, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bill Clinton is nowhere close to being a top President ever, he didn't really do anything historic...well unless you count what happend under the desk.</div>He gave a lot of black people jobs.
 
I think FDR is the best president. He did a lot of things for everyone. He created a lot of programs and services that we use today. He gave many people jobs and helped our economy. He wasn't perfect at all, but he made a noticeable difference in our country, which most presidents haven't done, sadly.Another obvious one is Lincoln. The only reason I wouldn't call him the best is because it's so hard to know what he was really like. All we hear is about how great he was, which makes me wonder. This is not to say that he was a bad person. He did some great things, but it's hard to believe everything when you don't hear any negatives.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheAnalyst @ Dec 31 2006, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He gave a lot of black people jobs.</div> Do you have a job? If you don't we can blame George Bush for it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 31 2006, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you have a job? If you don't we can blame George Bush for it.</div>Of course.
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I've read alot about Ronald Reagan, and I know a little bit about presidents..I won't say Lincoln because I wasn't alive, and I never really learned anything about him.So I'll say Ronald Reagan!
 
FDR no question..he took this country out of one of the worst times it's ever faced and established new foundations for the countryand kingjamez..ronald reagan and his administration were pretty much responsible for the crack era in America
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jan 1 2007, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Of course.
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I've read alot about Ronald Reagan, and I know a little bit about presidents..I won't say Lincoln because I wasn't alive, and I never really learned anything about him.So I'll say Ronald Reagan!</div>Don't get me going on that moron...Ronald Reagan is the most overrated President of the last 50 years.
 
Franklin D. Roosevelt...he was president for a long time, but he got us mostly through a huge war, a depression and just simply lead a nation into becoming a superpower. If it wasnt for FDR, we may not have the power we do now(speaking of America of course). Abraham Lincoln was one of the greatest, but do to depression, he may many errors that couldve saved lives.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Jan 1 2007, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>GEORGE W BUSHhaha NOT</div>Lol didn't see that joke coming :PHonest Abe would have to be my top pick, but I'm not even American and I'm awful at history.
 
you can laugh about clinton all you want, but there was mostly peace (compared to most of history) while he was president, crime rate went from the highest ever to the lowest ever, and he gave us a surplus for the first time in 40 years. Just because he got a blowjob doesn't take away his top five status all time.The only thing I didn't like was that he made the democrats veer to the right and lost us the house and senate with some of the stuff that he pushed.But I'd say FDR is the greatest ever.
 
Give me a break. Clinton is not a top 5 president all time. He benefitted from an economy that was unreasonably inflated due to technology. Tell me how Clinton caused crime to go down and the economy to boom, then I'll consider him a top anything.
 
Bill Clinton did not do one good thing as president. All he did was make sure he flew to every state in the country and make some sort of speech there. Clinton is and always will be a looser. Hilary Clinton is even worse....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jan 2 2007, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bill Clinton did not do one good thing as president. All he did was make sure he flew to every state in the country and make some sort of speech there. Clinton is and always will be a looser. Hilary Clinton is even worse....</div> Thats just being ignorant. Bill Clinton was President in a very calm time in our history, he didn't have to watch over big wars or have any big legislation come through, but he was one of our best when it came to talking with other countries...and if it weren't for Arafat being a loonytune big progress would have been made with Israel/Palestine. I think he did a good job considering he had to deal with a Republican run leadership. He went against Republicans and with the UN went into Somalia when many others wouldn't...not to mention Serbia. I don't think he's a great all-time President but to say something stupid like that, don't even post in here because you don't know what your talking about.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Jan 5 2007, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Top 3 ever:FDRJFKClinton</div> Why is Clinton a top 3 President? You give no reason...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Jan 5 2007, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Top 3 ever:FDRJFKClinton</div>I guess in your mind the bay of pigs, and "swollowgate" are much more important than the civil war, founding the nation, and helping the nation grow.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Jan 5 2007, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess in your mind the bay of pigs, and "swollowgate" are much more important than the civil war, founding the nation, and helping the nation grow.</div>I don't know a whole bunch about presidents before the 1920's...and don't really consider them top presidents...I'm talking of our entire generation and our parents generations not back in the civil war time..things are so much different now-a-days...Clinton gave african-americans oppurtunity. Not really any other presidents did that. I guess JFK did with the whole civil rights movement, but Clinton expanded on that and went the extra mile. For all the rich white people, it doesn't mean anything to you, but to the african-americans struggling to get jobs and get into colleges because they had tougher lifes at home, and grew up in bad schools with unqualified teachers, Clinton did a ton for them.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Jan 5 2007, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Clinton gave african-americans oppurtunity. Not really any other presidents did that. I guess JFK did with the whole civil rights movement, but Clinton expanded on that and went the extra mile. For all the rich white people, it doesn't mean anything to you, but to the african-americans struggling to get jobs and get into colleges because they had tougher lifes at home, and grew up in bad schools with unqualified teachers, Clinton did a ton for them.</div> How did Bill Clinton help black people, what did he directly do...
 
I don't know how this affects blacks but here goes:Bill Clinton:Got NAFTA passed through the Senate, still the key economic decision of the USHe also was a flip-flopper on gays..<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Defense of Marriage Act, allowed states to refuse recognition of certain same-sex marriages, and defined marriage as between a male and female for purposes of federal law</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Initiated the Don't ask, don't tell policy toward gays in the military, 1993.</div>Talk about inconsistency in policies...
 
"Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993, which required large employers to allow their employees to take unpaid leave because of pregnancy or serious medical condition." <--This has been huge."Clinton's attempt to fulfill another campaign promise of allowing openly gay men and lesbians serving in the armed forces was the subject of criticism." <--This is all based on your political views. I think this is a good thing, while others don't like it. Simply opinion."Clinton signed the Brady Bill, which imposed a five-day waiting period on handgun purchases. He also expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit, which benefits working class families with dependent children." <--Trying to reduce violence and help middle class famlies."It raised taxes on the wealthiest 1.2% of taxpayers, while cutting taxes on 15 million low-income families and making tax cuts available to 90 percent of small businesses.[12] Additionally, it mandated that the budget be balanced over a number of years, and the implementation of spending restraints." <--Going back to your political views. I believe we should increase taxes on the rich, while lowering on middle class famlies."In addition to his political skills, Clinton also benefited from a boom of the US economy. Under Clinton, the United States had a projected federal budget surplus for the first time since 1969."<--Great for the country.I also believe he increased minimum wage, and and I also think he introduced affirmative action
 
Wikipedia isn't true about his minimum wage increase, it say he did, but it didnt get passed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L_C @ Jan 5 2007, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wikipedia isn't true about his minimum wage increase, it say he did, but it didnt get passed.</div>Yeah, wasn't sure about that. But I DO BELIEVE (not nearly 100 percent positive) that he signed the affirmative action..which is a great act.Like I said, everything in here is opinion...nothing is a fact here. This is just what I believe, everyone has different beliefs which is what makes our country so cool...very diverse...
 
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