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Right off the top of my head that I can think of from him is....Hail MaryIn the air Tonight (Remix)Dear MamaCalifornia Love
 
1.)Brendas gotta Baby2.)Dear Momma3.)Hit em Up(greatest diss ever)4.)Smile5.)Hail MaryIn that order IMO
 
I really need to check out "Brendas Gotta Baby" when I get a chance. I don't know how I've missed it after all these years.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 22 2006, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>explain your statement</div>If you really want to debate me on that statement, bring your arguement and I'll bring mine. I can't explain why hes overrated in a couple of sentences and I'm not up for writing an essay now. He has some great songs and can make you feel an emotion but for the most part I just don't find what is so good about him at all.
 
Ok, Ill debate..but ill have to be necxt weekend. Ill be too tired during the week.
 
Wow...this topic would be impossible for me to answer. I have almost every tupac song ever made, there is no way I could just select a few select songs. My list of the best songs by pac would probably consist of roughly 50 songs. When I have time maybe Ill make a list.
 
You know, Heatfan32, you can argue that Tupac is overrated. Because in some cases he was towards the minority. But I still believe he's the greatest rapper of all time.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TSpark @ Oct 23 2006, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You know, Heatfan32, you can argue that Tupac is overrated. Because in some cases he was towards the minority. But I still believe he's the greatest rapper of all time.</div>Sorry but he is far from being the best ever. His lyrics, longevity, impact are not anywhere near Nas. Tupac was a hypocrite to the black community, he was trying to act like a spokesman while being a criminal at the same time. On a music side, none of his albums are truely classic material. You can whine all you want but anyone who really knows hip-hop would agree with me. All Eyez on Me had it's problems, Me Against The World was probably his best but it still wasn't classic. He gave it three good attempts so I guess it's fair to say he had 1 classic album. Now lets go back to your statement of him being the greatest, while Tupac has 1 classic album and two great others Nas has arguably the best and most influential album of all time. When you think hip-hop, you think Illmatic. Followed by Illmatic was a couple more of classics in Stillmatic, Gods Son and It Was Written. Thats already 4 classic albums compared to Tupac's 1. If you wanna look at lyrics, it's not even close. Nas is on another level lyrically then Tupac.Tupac started off as a poor political rapper and quickly changed to more of a gangster rapper which is when he gained most of his success. However, while doing that he released a ton of poor club songs. Tupac has his moments in Dear Mama, Me Against the World and other songs when he truely makes you reach in deep but as far as I'm concerned, thats all he did well.He was a poet but when you listen to his music you don't pay attention to the lyrics, it's the emotion you feel while hearing them. When you play a Tupac song, your main focus isn't the lyrics. Album wise, he put out three good albums and people consider him the best ever? Thats unfair to say when someone like KRS One has about 7 classic albums at least.One last thing, while he might have made a big impact, alot of other great rappers have made bigger impact. Their you go austingriz, show me what you got.
 
Haha wow I couldn't have said it any better, Heatfan. Tupac was great, but like you said, overrated. I won't get into it since it'll just be mirroring what you said. Well said.
 
Skandalouz All Eyez On Me Check Out Time Fair Xchange Against All OddsIf I Die 2nightLet Them Thangs GoLetter To The PresidentUnder PressureThug N U Thug N MeWhere Ever U Are Trappedetc
 
Thugs Mansion anybody? How about My Block Remix. Some good songs that havent been listed.
 
Too Many good pac songs ... could never list them all lol .;
 
We should make this topic a little more interesting and list the worst Tupac songs...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Oct 23 2006, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry but he is far from being the best ever. His lyrics, longevity, impact are not anywhere near Nas. Tupac was a hypocrite to the black community, he was trying to act like a spokesman while being a criminal at the same time. On a music side, none of his albums are truely classic material. You can whine all you want but anyone who really knows hip-hop would agree with me. All Eyez on Me had it's problems, Me Against The World was probably his best but it still wasn't classic. He gave it three good attempts so I guess it's fair to say he had 1 classic album. Now lets go back to your statement of him being the greatest, while Tupac has 1 classic album and two great others Nas has arguably the best and most influential album of all time. When you think hip-hop, you think Illmatic. Followed by Illmatic was a couple more of classics in Stillmatic, Gods Son and It Was Written. Thats already 4 classic albums compared to Tupac's 1. If you wanna look at lyrics, it's not even close. Nas is on another level lyrically then Tupac.Tupac started off as a poor political rapper and quickly changed to more of a gangster rapper which is when he gained most of his success. However, while doing that he released a ton of poor club songs. Tupac has his moments in Dear Mama, Me Against the World and other songs when he truely makes you reach in deep but as far as I'm concerned, thats all he did well.He was a poet but when you listen to his music you don't pay attention to the lyrics, it's the emotion you feel while hearing them. When you play a Tupac song, your main focus isn't the lyrics. Album wise, he put out three good albums and people consider him the best ever? Thats unfair to say when someone like KRS One has about 7 classic albums at least.One last thing, while he might have made a big impact, alot of other great rappers have made bigger impact. Their you go austingriz, show me what you got.</div>It Was Written was garbage. Nas has had 3 albums I can call classic: Illmatic (best of all time), Stillmatic, and the Lost Tapes. God's Son was very good but not classic like Illmatic or Stillmatic. Sure, 2Pac hasan't had any true "classic" albums, or albums I consider top 20 all time, but he has had TONS of great singles. You say all he was good at was the emotional stuff, and I disagree with that. Sure, the emotional stuff is what he did best and what he did most often, but his diss tracks like Hit 'Em up and the Realest sh*t I ever Wrote were both classics, as well as others. He simply never put it all together well enough to make a true classic album, but IMO that doesn't really take much away from his career.Say what you want....NO ONE has made a bigger impact on the hip hop community like 2Pac did. EVERYONE looks up to him for one reason or another. He was an enigma, and his image still lives on like he never died.But personally, I think Nas is the greatest rapper of all time for the simple fact that when he doesn't try "new" things to spruce up career with weird ass songs and beats (Streets Disciple), he is the best lyracist of all time and simply can't be touched in that area. I hope to god he goes back to his old roots and writes a straight up rap album next time.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Oct 25 2006, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It Was Written was garbage. Nas has had 3 albums I can call classic: Illmatic (best of all time), Stillmatic, and the Lost Tapes. God's Son was very good but not classic like Illmatic or Stillmatic. Sure, 2Pac hasan't had any true "classic" albums, or albums I consider top 20 all time, but he has had TONS of great singles. You say all he was good at was the emotional stuff, and I disagree with that. Sure, the emotional stuff is what he did best and what he did most often, but his diss tracks like Hit 'Em up and the Realest sh*t I ever Wrote were both classics, as well as others. He simply never put it all together well enough to make a true classic album, but IMO that doesn't really take much away from his career.Say what you want....NO ONE has made a bigger impact on the hip hop community like 2Pac did. EVERYONE looks up to him for one reason or another. He was an enigma, and his image still lives on like he never died.But personally, I think Nas is the greatest rapper of all time for the simple fact that when he doesn't try "new" things to spruce up career with weird ass songs and beats (Streets Disciple), he is the best lyracist of all time and simply can't be touched in that area. I hope to god he goes back to his old roots and writes a straight up rap album next time.</div> :worthy: Completely Agree with you Nitro. But by the way that one song is not called "Realest sh*t I ever Wrote" It's called "Against All Odds". But yeah nice post, I could not have said it better.
 
The reason why 2pac dont have "classic albums" is cause bitches try to make it and weak rappers like Chamillionare and 50 cent are on it knowing that if Pac was alive he wouldve been beefing with them, not having them on his album. And why else would you listen to rap if its not for the lyrics? If you want a good song with a sick beat pick up some southern rap. But the true hip-hop is 2pac and his lyrics. Yeah Nas is up there, but he dont go as deep as Pac went. Just to show how great 2pac was, my 50+ yr old white english teacher assigned some people to do a biography on 2pac(project about poets). You said he was a hypocrite cause he tried to be a spokesmen for the black community but he would turn around and get in trouble with the law, well, he said himself he doesn't want to be a role-model. Theres a famous video where he says "im from the gutter, I will always be a thug"etc etc. Point is, as a hip-hop fan I want to hear some deep sh*t, and 2pac was deeper and wrote deeper music than Nas ever did. Differene between Pac and Nas is 2pac was a musical and poetic genuiss and Nas isnt. 100 years from now, 2pac is going to be recognized for songs such as "Brendas Gotta Baby" and "Dear Mama".But its my opinion, but most people would agree with me
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Oct 25 2006, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It Was Written was garbage. Nas has had 3 albums I can call classic: Illmatic (best of all time), Stillmatic, and the Lost Tapes. God's Son was very good but not classic like Illmatic or Stillmatic.</div>Whaaaaaaaaat? It Was Written was not garbage at all. The album gets alot of hate but it's still a solid album. I can drop it from being a classic but not for Gods Son, that album was great. Streets Disciples wasn't bad at all either, it just had a few tracks that would've been better left out but for the most part it was good.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Say what you want....NO ONE has made a bigger impact on the hip hop community like 2Pac did. EVERYONE looks up to him for one reason or another. He was an enigma, and his image still lives on like he never died.</div>Right on, the problem is rappers like Ice Cube and Chuck D were the ones who made Tupac what he is. Cube with his gangster thing and Chuck with his political rapping. Tupac copied their images and used it for his own. While he made a big impact, he wouldn't have done that if not for the legends before him.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 25 2006, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The reason why 2pac dont have "classic albums" is cause bitches try to make it and weak rappers like Chamillionare and 50 cent are on it knowing that if Pac was alive he wouldve been beefing with them, not having them on his album. And why else would you listen to rap if its not for the lyrics? If you want a good song with a sick beat pick up some southern rap. But the true hip-hop is 2pac and his lyrics. Yeah Nas is up there, but he dont go as deep as Pac went. Just to show how great 2pac was, my 50+ yr old white english teacher assigned some people to do a biography on 2pac(project about poets). You said he was a hypocrite cause he tried to be a spokesmen for the black community but he would turn around and get in trouble with the law, well, he said himself he doesn't want to be a role-model. Theres a famous video where he says "im from the gutter, I will always be a thug"etc etc. Point is, as a hip-hop fan I want to hear some deep sh*t, and 2pac was deeper and wrote deeper music than Nas ever did. Differene between Pac and Nas is 2pac was a musical and poetic genuiss and Nas isnt. 100 years from now, 2pac is going to be recognized for songs such as "Brendas Gotta Baby" and "Dear Mama".</div>And Nas will be remembered for putting out the best rap album ever. I'd rather take an entire album over a couple of singles. Also, where in the world did you get 50 Cent and Chamillionaire from? Anyways.. Tupacs stuff was deep, sure but Nas was just as deep. Nas' - One Mic makes you feel emotions you've never felt before, at least I do everytime I hear that song. Nas be talking about the hoods of NY and the struggle to make it, samething as Tupac and his thing. Only thing is Nas was better with the lyrics. Your basically saying Tupac had good lyrics because he went deep, thats false. Songs like Dear Mama aren't the best lyrically but it's the emotion you feel from hearing it, like I stated before. Pac maybe a poet but it seems he has alot of times you notice half of his lines don't even rhyme. It's just the flow and voice he put into the song.Nas' stuff is real deep as well, listen to N.Y. State of Mind the lyrics on that song are REAL deep.As for Pac saying he didn't want to be a role model, too bad. Thats something you can't choose to be, if your as popular as him people are gonna look up to you no matter what. The black community looked up to him and he was out being a criminal.
 
Pac had wwaaayyy more than just a couple singles.......get a f*cking Pac album. And Chamillionare and 50 Cent are on his new album. Nas takes f*cking forever for a goos single to come out. Kobes 81 point game was greatest individual game ever IMO, that doesn't mean hes better than MJ. Dont you want music that moves you? Thats what Pac gives you and thats why hes the greatest.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Oct 25 2006, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whaaaaaaaaat? It Was Written was not garbage at all. The album gets alot of hate but it's still a solid album. I can drop it from being a classic but not for Gods Son, that album was great. Streets Disciples wasn't bad at all either, it just had a few tracks that would've been better left out but for the most part it was good.</div>I thought it was bad, maybe not garbage, but definately not too good. God's Son was very good, but again, if you're gonna call that a classic then you have to call at least All Eyez On Me a classic. Every album, outside of VERY few have their problems. Stillmatic had quite a few duds, as did God's Son, etc... I hated Streets Disciple. Only good song was Thief's Theme.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Right on, the problem is rappers like Ice Cube and Chuck D were the ones who made Tupac what he is. Cube with his gangster thing and Chuck with his political rapping. Tupac copied their images and used it for his own. While he made a big impact, he wouldn't have done that if not for the legends before him.</div>To relate it to basketball, MJ would not have been what he was without the other great players of the past. That is natural evolution. Sure, 2Pac took things from other rappers, but expressed it in a way never before seen, which is what made him such an influential, and iconic, rapper.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 25 2006, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pac had wwaaayyy more than just a couple singles.......get a f*cking Pac album. And Chamillionare and 50 Cent are on his new album. Nas takes f*cking forever for a goos single to come out. Kobes 81 point game was greatest individual game ever IMO, that doesn't mean hes better than MJ. Dont you want music that moves you? Thats what Pac gives you and thats why hes the greatest.</div>How about YOU get a Nas album. I've heard EVERYTHING Pac has to offer, including stuff you haven't even heard of. That goes for you to LakersFan :dribble: . Pac had more then singles but thats just what you said. Nas takes forever to release a good single? Dude, he puts out an album every year or two, just like Tupac and the album, good or bad, ALWAYS has at least 1 hit single. EVERY album, from NY State of Mind, to If I Ruled The World, to One Mic to Nas is Like, there is always at least 1 hit single. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>To relate it to basketball, MJ would not have been what he was without the other great players of the past. That is natural evolution. Sure, 2Pac took things from other rappers, but expressed it in a way never before seen, which is what made him such an influential, and iconic, rapper.</div>Yes and no. MJ had a style of his own, the high flying above the rim play was basically perfected by him. You can say Dr J started it but Jordan perfected it, Vince Carter, Tracy, Dwyane, LeBron all model themself after Jordan, you can't say that about Tupac. He wasn't anywhere near the political rapper Chuck D was, or the story-teller Slick Rick was.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Oct 25 2006, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes and no. MJ had a style of his own, the high flying above the rim play was basically perfected by him. You can say Dr J started it but Jordan perfected it, Vince Carter, Tracy, Dwyane, LeBron all model themself after Jordan, you can't say that about Tupac. He wasn't anywhere near the political rapper Chuck D was, or the story-teller Slick Rick was.</div>2Pac had his own style as well. MJ was a mix of Elgin Baylor, Dr J, etc... He added his own spice to it, as 2Pac did with his music. You can say Chuck D was a bette rplitical rapper or Slick Rick was a better story teller....but does the average person know those names? Do you see people with them on their T-shirts everyday? Everyone knows who 2Pac was, and I see more shirts with him on it than anyone else. People discuss him more than anyone else. There are more TV shows about him than anyone else. More rappers talk about him as an inspiration than just about anyone else, living or dead. If you looked rap up in a dictionary his picture would be there. He was just that big of a phenomonan.
 
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