bin Laden Claims Christmas Bombing Attempt

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100124/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_al_qaida_airline_attack

CAIRO – Osama bin Laden claimed responsibility for the failed attempt to bomb a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas in a new audio message released Sunday threatening more attacks on the United States.

The United States said there was no indication to suggest that bin Laden or any of his top lieutenants had anything to do with the attempted attack and that the claim may have been motivated by the wish of the terror network's leaders to appear in control of al-Qaida's offshoots.

"They offer strategic guidance and rely on their affiliates to carry out that strategic guidance," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said in an interview.

"He (bin Laden) is trying to continue to appear relevant," he said.

The Nigerian Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab told federal agents shortly afterward that he had been trained and given the explosives by al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, an al-Qaida-inspired offshoot in bin Laden's ancestral homeland of Yemen.

In the minute-long recording released to al-Jazeera Arabic news channel, bin Laden addressed President Barack Obama saying the recent attempt was meant to send a message similar to that of the Sept. 11 attacks.

"The message delivered to you through the plane of the heroic warrior Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was a confirmation of the previous messages sent by the heroes of the Sept. 11," he said. "America will never dream of security unless we will have it in reality in Palestine," he added.

"God willing, our raids on you will continue as long as your support for the Israelis continues."

U.S.-based IntelCenter, which monitors militant messages, said bin Laden used specific
language he has used before in advance of attacks, a possible indicator of an upcoming action within the next 12 months.

The phrase "Peace be upon those who follow guidance" appears at the beginning and end of messages released in advance of attacks to warn al-Qaida's enemies that they need to change their ways or they will be attacked, IntelCenter said in a statement. The language, used in the latest message as well, allows al-Qaida to blame the actual attack on those who refuse to change their ways, which in the group's view forces a response.

There was no way to verify the voice on the audio message was actually bin Laden, but it resembled previous recordings attributed to him.

The U.S. said it could not immediately authenticate the message. But White House adviser David Axelrod told CNN's "State of the Union" that whatever the source, the message "contains the same hollow justification for the mass slaughter of innocents."

Abdulmutallab attempted to blow up his plane as it approached Detroit Metro Airport on Christmas Day. However, the explosive powder he was hiding in his underwear failed to detonate.

On Friday, Britain raised its terror threat alert to the second-highest level, one of several recent moves the country has made to increase vigilance against international terrorists after the Christmas Day bombing attempt on a flight from Amsterdam.

Bin Laden's message came four weeks after the Yemen-based group made its own claim of responsibility for the bomb plot with a different justification — linking it to Yemeni military attacks on al-Qaida targets with the help of U.S. intelligence.

But a senior U.S. intelligence official in Washington said al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula is linked to the central al-Qaida that bin Laden heads and recent intelligence indicates there are ongoing contacts between al-Qaida in Yemen and in Pakistan.

He added, however, that there was "no evidence whatsoever" that bin Laden had any involvement in the Christmas Day plot or even knew about it in advance. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.

The message appeared to be an attempt by bin Laden to stay relevant, said Rohan Gunaratna, author of "Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network of Terror."

"The training and the definition of the attack was by the local leaders of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, so in many ways you can say bin Laden is exploiting for his benefit this particular attack," he said. "Bin Laden still wants to claim leadership for the global jihad movement.".....................................
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Scare tactics from the CIA.

I wonder if they'll start up the terror threat chart.

Today it's in the orange for moderate threat.
 
"You know what I'm gonna tell those Jews when I get to Israel...?
I'm telling 'em they're all going to hell."

Texas Govenor G. W. Bush - 1993 Statement to Austin American-Statesman reporter Ken Herman

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Just so you know who's on which side of this "war game"..
 
I miss George.
 
Did he not know that Jesus was Jew, well, only on his mothers side.
 
lol anyone who believes this is ignorant. Who the fuck else would claim it that anyone would care about or be afraid of? Bin Laden is dead and has been for a long time. He is the only icon that the common American can recognize as a person who would do anything like this, and his name is used over and over to scare ignorant people.
 
BenDavis503 said:
lol anyone who believes this is ignorant. Who the fuck else would claim it that anyone would care about or be afraid of? Bin Laden is dead and has been for a long time. He is the only icon that the common American can recognize as a person who would do anything like this, and his name is used over and over to scare ignorant people.
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Bin Laden is not dead. Stop drinking the conspiracy Kool Aid.
 
tlongII said:
Bin Laden is not dead. Stop drinking the conspiracy Kool Aid.
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really? Whats the most conclusive proof going that he's still alive? Given the rate he used to taunt the US with his videos, and that they've stopped coming years back, it makes more sense then not.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
really? Whats the most conclusive proof going that he's still alive? Given the rate he used to taunt the US with his videos, and that they've stopped coming years back, it makes more sense then not.

STOMP
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Obviously the videos aren't as common because it will make it easier to catch him. Where's the conclusive proof that he's dead?
 
tlongII said:
Obviously the videos aren't as common because it will make it easier to catch him. Where's the conclusive proof that he's dead?
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I certainly don't have any but I'm not blowing off that real possibility as crazy talk. OBL does/did have documented health problems and trained killers after him.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
I certainly don't have any but I'm not blowing off that real possibility as crazy talk. OBL does/did have documented health problems and trained killers after him.

STOMP
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Okay, I'm willing to concede that it's not necessarily "crazy talk". I certainly don't believe it though.
 
If Osama was dead, we'd know. When he dies, he's going to be made into a martyr by the PR wing of al-Qaida, period.

Besides, the majority of the various claims of his death are from Pakistani officials, who have too much of an interest in claiming he is dead than I can overlook.
 
Bin Laden will live in eternity, if it weren't for him, the war on terror wouldn't have sounded so grand. To the sheep that is.
 
hoojacks said:
If Osama was dead, we'd know. When he dies, he's going to be made into a martyr by the PR wing of al-Qaida, period.

Besides, the majority of the various claims of his death are from Pakistani officials, who have too much of an interest in claiming he is dead than I can overlook.
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2 very true sounding statements.
 
Blazed Mania 52 said:
Bin Laden will live in eternity, if it weren't for him, the war on terror wouldn't have sounded so grand. To the sheep that is.
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All the "sheep" needed was the words "war on" plus something they don't like to be pleased.

Even with the prospect of catching Osama, the war on terror was an extremely misleading title for what it actually was/is.
 
hoojacks said:
If Osama was dead, we'd know. When he dies, he's going to be made into a martyr by the PR wing of al-Qaida, period.
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are you sure they wouldn't want to see the US gov't continue to spend away our future chasing a boogieman who can't be caught? I recall you claiming some knowledge of Islam (I have little) so I'd be interested in your reasoning

STOMP
 
hoojacks said:
All the "sheep" needed was the words "war on" plus something they don't like to be pleased.

Even with the prospect of catching Osama, the war on terror was an extremely misleading title for what it actually was/is.
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I was all about the War on Terror...the Wars on Drugs and Poverty left a sour taste in my mouth.
 
STOMP said:
are you sure they wouldn't want to see the US gov't continue to spend away our future chasing a boogieman who can't be caught? I recall you claiming some knowledge of Islam (I have little) so I'd be interested in your reasoning

STOMP
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It's true that part of the idea behind 9/11 was to draw the USA into the Middle East for a long, protracted and draining war. This happened with Iraq. However, al-Qaida is mostly in shambles at this point, and aren't at any particular advantage, even given our current dire economic situation.

Besides, given the amount of effort we've put into catching him after 2002 (piddly-winks), I'd hazard to guess that Osama as a martyred figure would do them more good than draining our resources for catching bin Laden, which at this point amounts to little more than money for unmanned bomb drones that we've been flying over Pakistan.

Osama has had a personal body guard since he became a public figure. That body guard has a loaded gun and is ordered to kill Osama if it becomes apparent that he will be captured alive. This is specifically to make him into a martyr.

Also, none of this has to do with Islam.
 
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