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Blake update: Not ready to return
Posted by Joe Freeman, The Oregonian January 30, 2009 14:19PM

Blazers starting point guard Steve Blake said he will not play against the Jazz and is questionable for the team's next game, Monday, at New Orleans. Blake, who separated his right shoulder against Philadelphia on Jan. 14, tested his injury with some post-practice shooting drills but did not participate in practice on Friday.
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Bummer. Hopefully Bayless steps up.
 
the next 4 games define this teams post season hope. this is their chance to get some good distance. Beat Utah, Dallas, and Oklahoma.

Not having blake really hurts but lets hope for the best...i say 2-2 but if we go 3-1...that would be huge. im counting a loss in hornet ville

if we lose to utah..we are in major trouble btw
 
I think it depends on what the goal is. If the goal is to make the playoffs, then I don't think these games are determanitive. I think one or more of the teams below us in the race will continue to fade at a faster rate. If the goals is to win the NW or get home court and go into the second round, then that might be affected.
 
free_lafrentz said:
Last time I checked Utah still only counts as 1 loss of 82 games. I'd be more concerned with Oklahoma City, they've won 8 of their last 14.
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Hopefully 9 of their last 15 after tonight.
 
like i said...tough tough stretch


it will hurt the thunder losing mason though. he could hit the three.

we dont match up well with teams with those combo guards like OKC has tons of
 
We aren't playing that badly without Blake. I'm not worried.
 
Reep said:
Against lower level teems. Going up against Utah in Portland will be a good test for Sergio and Bayless.
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Blake would have been torched by D-Will... but I'm interested in seeing how Bayless does while guarding Williams.
 
Not having Blake doesn't "really" hurt. He's a solid reserve-quality player, but not so good that the team falls off much with Bayless and Rodriguez sopping up his minutes. Mostly Bayless. I've really liked his play...even when he has periods of not generating stats, his defense is a good contribution. And he gives the team one more player who can carry them offensively in bursts.
 
Minstrel said:
Not having Blake doesn't "really" hurt. He's a solid reserve-quality player, but not so good that the team falls off much with Bayless and Rodriguez sopping up his minutes. Mostly Bayless. I've really liked his play...even when he has periods of not generating stats, his defense is a good contribution. And he gives the team one more player who can carry them offensively in bursts.
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Bayless has his mental breakdowns, but like you said he can put points up on the board in a hurry. I think his passing has been underrated too.
 
So at what point is management going to start to notice that the guys doing the medical evaluations on the Blazers aren't doing a thorough job and sending guys back in early? First Martell, and not taking an xray before he stepped on the court, and now Blake hurrying back, when we didn't even need him for that game at all. What was the hurry? That makes me really worry for when a more important cog gets hurt, are they going to do the right thing?
 
hasoos said:
So at what point is management going to start to notice that the guys doing the medical evaluations on the Blazers aren't doing a thorough job and sending guys back in early? First Martell, and not taking an xray before he stepped on the court, and now Blake hurrying back, when we didn't even need him for that game at all. What was the hurry? That makes me really worry for when a more important cog gets hurt, are they going to do the right thing?
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Is it the medical staff, or are the players hurrying back on their own? If Blake says "I feel fine coach" when he's not really ready to return, what do the Blazers say? No? What if they have no other way of gauging a players status? With a shoulder injury, I would guess that it would be up to Blake to tell them when his shoulder stops hurting.

I think that's what Quick was trying to say in his chat. The players are rushing back because they want to help. Either that, or they don't want to get left behind. You don't think Blake sees that Bayless is playing well? Maybe he's worried about losing his spot.
 
I think the offense has been a lot more fun to watch since Blake has been out, I don't mind at all. We make a lot more mistakes, but those will fade, and we're getting a ton more action, motion, and easy buckets, which won't fade. It's no coincidence Oden's playing much better w/Sergio than Blake, he did earlier in the year too!
 
shamelessblazer said:
I think the offense has been a lot more fun to watch since Blake has been out, I don't mind at all. We make a lot more mistakes, but those will fade, and we're getting a ton more action, motion, and easy buckets, which won't fade. It's no coincidence Oden's playing much better w/Sergio than Blake, he did earlier in the year too!
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Blake just really isn't a very good passer. I've always thought he was mediocre at making the entry pass into the post.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Blake would have been torched by D-Will... but I'm interested in seeing how Bayless does while guarding Williams.
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Hopefully not foul out in fifteen minutes (my fear). If he can avoid cheap fouls, I think Bayless will do fine.
 
Reep said:
Hopefully not foul out in fifteen minutes (my fear). If he can avoid cheap fouls, I think Bayless will do fine.
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Williams is kind of a bruiser. He has so much size for a point guard, I'm really hoping that Bayless can get in there and bother him. Bayless strikes me as the kind of player who likes physical contact, much like Oden. If Williams tries to man-handle him, he'll find that Jerryd doesn't back down easily. It should be a good matchup.
 
his biggest asset is that he doesn't try to do anything he's not capable of, his worst asset is that he's not capable of all that much. Blake is serviceable next to aggressive guards (AI, Dixon in college, and Roy sometimes) but playing with passive players he's revealed as not much.
 
free_lafrentz said:
Last time I checked Utah still only counts as 1 loss of 82 games. I'd be more concerned with Oklahoma City, they've won 8 of their last 14.
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Utah kind of counts as two games because if they win, they get the season series from us. That could kill our chances at the end because they would have the tiebreaker.
 
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this is good news. Steve blake makes our team worse. Sorry, it's the truth.
 
KingSpeed said:
Utah kind of counts as two games because if they win, they get the season series from us. That could kill our chances at the end because they would have the tiebreaker.
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Or they could keep sucking and not make the playoffs at all.
 
I won't be surprised if he comes back February 8th. He might travel with the team on this 3 game road trip but thats about it.
 
B-Roy said:
Worse in what way? Worse in that we see less of Bayless?
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1. He is a sub-par defender.
A) This gets our big men in foul trouble.
B) This allows most teams point guards to put up big numbers on us.

2. He can't make a decent entry pass.
A) This is a serious problem because we need a point guard who can get Oden the ball.

That's just off the top of my head.
 
Natebishop3 said:
1. He is a sub-par defender.
A) This gets our big men in foul trouble.
B) This allows most teams point guards to put up big numbers on us.

2. He can't make a decent entry pass.
A) This is a serious problem because we need a point guard who can get Oden the ball.

That's just off the top of my head.
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Sergio does all of this, but worse since he also can't make a shot.

So again, how is Blake hurting this team?
 
IMHO

Defenders: Bayless>Blake>>Sergio
Entry Pass (Batum, Rudy, etc)>Blake>Bayless=Sergio

Blake may not be a star, but he is a great fit on this team. He doesn't ball dominate like Sergio, but can start the offense efficiently. He hits the three at a great rate, and can really step up to be a major scorer. He also defends adequately (less fouls than Bayless, much better than Sergio). I can't wait to have him back.
 
SUcks, but Bayless is coming along nicely. Kinda reminding me of how Stuckey came on in his rookie year... didn't play early in the year (but his was due to injury) and then started coming off the bench and making an impact. They have pretty similar games as well.
 
MrJayremmie said:
SUcks, but Bayless is coming along nicely. Kinda reminding me of how Stuckey came on in his rookie year... didn't play early in the year (but his was due to injury) and then started coming off the bench and making an impact. They have pretty similar games as well.
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I think you're absolutely correct ... and I really wanted to see if we could pry Stuckey away from Dumars without having to sacrifice Roy, LMA or Oden (which is reportedly what he was asking for when he and Billups's names were thrown around last summer).
 
Natebishop3 said:
Williams is kind of a bruiser. He has so much size for a point guard, I'm really hoping that Bayless can get in there and bother him. Bayless strikes me as the kind of player who likes physical contact, much like Oden. If Williams tries to man-handle him, he'll find that Jerryd doesn't back down easily. It should be a good matchup.
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My biggest fear tonight is that because Bayless does not back down he will pick up quick fouls. Jerry Sloan's teams may all play hard, but they also cry and flop just as hard. Williams will initiate contact, and I am pretty sure the calls won't be going the rookie's way. It would have been nice to have Blake available.
 
B-Roy said:
Sergio does all of this, but worse since he also can't make a shot.

So again, how is Blake hurting this team?
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How is that a counter argument? Just because Sergio does it also, doesn't mean Blake hurts the team less.

Also, Sergio can actually pass the basketball. Blake can not. I'm not defending Serg, but at least he has that gold star. Blake is just a good shooter. He has gotten by with good shooting and good decision making, but he isn't really a point guard.
 
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