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First action on the team website today with a Robert Williams video put up an hour ago so good to see that somebody is managing the site with Casey gone. Looks like they've scrubbed his bio and content from the site as well. End of an era....hope Casey sticks with a local media outlet covering the Blazers at any rate!
 
riverman said:
First action on the team website today with a Robert Williams video put up an hour ago so good to see that somebody is managing the site with Casey gone. Looks like they've scrubbed his bio and content from the site as well. End of an era....hope Casey sticks with a local media outlet covering the Blazers at any rate!
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riverman said:
First action on the team website today with a Robert Williams video put up an hour ago so good to see that somebody is managing the site with Casey gone. Looks like they've scrubbed his bio and content from the site as well. End of an era....hope Casey sticks with a local media outlet covering the Blazers at any rate!
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Timelord put that video up himself at Dundon's direction.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
and the Lakers are 100x more profitable than the Blazers have been. Blazers are last in the NBA in profits/revenue. Tom's goal is to close that gap. IMO can't blame him for that.
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100 times?!? Wow! According to Statista the Lakers generated 551M in revenue for the 2024-25 season while we generated 361M.

That's right around 1.5x and you have to assume that the operating costs in LA are more than 1.5x what the operating costs in Portland are.

I would assume that the Lakers are more profitable than the Blazers and that's why the Lakers just got sold at a valuation of 10B to our team's valuation of 4.25B but again that's around 2.4x not 100x.

Link to Statista
 
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Blazers were 24th out of 30 teams in revenue stream last season not last
 
The Lakers didn't sell for 10 billion, their value was set at 10 billion and the Buss family sold their share of it (or part of their share) based on that total assessed value amount.

Not to get nitpicky.
 
wizenheimer said:
that's just not true. last season, Blazers ranked 19th in revenue at 361M. 11 teams were worse. And the Blazers ranked 14th in operating income at 111M. More than half the NBA made less

en.wikipedia.org

Forbes list of the most valuable NBA teams - Wikipedia

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correct me if I'm wrong but your link shows us 22nd in the league if I'm reading it correctly? My bing search said 24th earlier. The forbes chart was data on Jan 8th of 2026 which should be pretty accurate other than not reflecting making the playoffs.
 
Gross revenue isn't the best measure. There are COGS and other costs (taxes, rent, luxury tax, salaries, etc.) to consider. Some of that revenue is TV contract and revenue sharing.

You need to consider the entire financial statements, not just the top line on the P&L. Or even the bottom line as any business can be profitable but lose money due to capital expenditures.
 
riverman said:
correct me if I'm wrong but your link shows us 22nd in the league if I'm reading it correctly? My bing search said 24th earlier. The forbes chart was data on Jan 8th of 2026 which should be pretty accurate other than not reflecting making the playoffs.
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that chart is interactive and can be organized according to value, valuation change, revenue, and operating income; just click on the headers. Those were the 2025 numbers. Portland ranked 22nd in value; 19th in revenue; 14th in operating income; and 11th in valuation increase
 
Denny Crane said:
Gross revenue isn't the best measure. There are COGS and other costs (taxes, rent, luxury tax, salaries, etc.) to consider. Some of that revenue is TV contract and revenue sharing.

You need to consider the entire financial statements, not just the top line on the P&L. Or even the bottom line as any business can be profitable but lose money due to capital expenditures.
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feel free to compile full financial statements for all 30 NBA teams. I'd read them....probably. IIRC Forbes used to do a summary, but I ain't paying for a subscription to Forbes

until then, we can just look at a quick and dirty comparison of revenues and operating income. Those can tell us plenty about team/franchise comparisons. Obviously, that's not a profit/loss statement but then we don't know what the cost of debt financing the owners face; or tax liabilities and exemptions, etc
 
wizenheimer said:
that chart is interactive and can be organized according to value, valuation change, revenue, and operating income; just click on the headers. Those were the 2025 numbers. Portland ranked 22nd in value; 19th in revenue; 14th in operating income; and 11th in valuation increase
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Yes, but what about my double secret info only I am privy to that says they lost 8 billion dollars last year, largely because of free tshirts, and that they employ 1500 exec level workers all making high 6 figures?!
 
wizenheimer said:
feel free to compile full financial statements for all 30 NBA teams. I'd read them....probably. IIRC Forbes used to do a summary, but I ain't paying for a subscription to Forbes

until then, we can just look at a quick and dirty comparison of revenues and operating income. Those can tell us plenty about team/franchise comparisons. Obviously, that's not a profit/loss statement but then we don't know what the cost of debt financing the owners face; or tax liabilities and exemptions, etc
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You are making assumptions. You know what they say about assumptions, right?

The teams' financial statements aren't publicly available, so looking at gross income or gross income minus team salaries paints an extremely limited picture.

You don't know most of the teams' expenses, including depreciation. Or what they pay in taxes, which vary by state.
 
Denny Crane said:
You are making assumptions. You know what they say about assumptions, right?

The teams' financial statements aren't publicly available, so looking at gross income or gross income minus team salaries paints an extremely limited picture.

You don't know most of the teams' expenses, including depreciation. Or what they pay in taxes, which vary by state.
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operating income is not gross income

as far as all the intricacies of profit/loss, tax liabilities, etc....I don't care about what Paul Allen's and Tom Dundon's tax returns look like. I can appreciate good fiction, but not predictable fiction
 
wizenheimer said:
operating income is not gross income

as far as all the intricacies of profit/loss, tax liabilities, etc....I don't care about what Paul Allen's and Tom Dundon's tax returns look like. I can appreciate good fiction, but not predictable fiction
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How else do they determine "operating income" without seeing financial statements?

LOL
 
Denny Crane said:
How else do they determine "operating income" without seeing financial statements?

LOL
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ask Forbes

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it's what we have available for discussion. And since they are using approximately the same templates for the 30 NBA teams (or 32 NFL teams, etc), it probably comes close enough to be worth discussion.
 
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