Blazers' scummy anti-union shit?

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HailBlazers said:
“They’re using positions in the house, people who already work there to do things we normally do.”

Pretty standard during a recession no?
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Yep. There's no live events occurring... so they might be out of luck.

There's not enough information here to make an informed judgement if Blazers did anything wrong here. This little bit of propaganda 'news story' did not provide any evidence of wrongdoing.
 
GriLtCheeZ said:
Do NOT crossover the picket line basketball fans!
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Where’s the picket line? A unionized contract company isn’t the same as unionized workers on the company payroll. Some union jobs like the TV crew are more needed than other union jobs like shining lights when there is no crowd. Sounds like the light guys signed a bad union contract with Vulcan to me. I feel bad for them but that’s not really a career.
 
A stagehand says that the Blazers are saving a tiny amount of money, by paying a little less per hour, for a few part-time jobs.

“Here we are wasting a ton of money on legal fees just to give a few guys some work. It’s a five-hour job. It’s so easy to work this out,” Connell added.
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Even though there aren’t fans in the arena, the IATSE members are still needed since they run sound and lighting equipment. In some ways they are even more important as fans can only watch teams on TV and the arenas want to make the game look as good as possible and sound realistic.
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After an exciting game event, the fake crowd sound should increase, but it doesn't vary realistically. Olshey's wife must be the one with her finger on the knob. In the 12th grade she memorized her lefts and rights, but didn't get to her clockwises and counterclockwises.
 
tester551 said:
Yep. There's no live events occurring... so they might be out of luck.

There's not enough information here to make an informed judgement if Blazers did anything wrong here. This little bit of propaganda 'news story' did not provide any evidence of wrongdoing.
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Good Point. The political chaos and reporting have honed your senses.
 
THE HCP said:
I don’t know anything about this, but the TV crew is IATSE and the Blazers are sticking to the contract.
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For credibility, who better than a man who works for the team?
 
THE HCP said:
I don’t know anything about this, but the TV crew is IATSE and the Blazers are sticking to the contract.
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You probably don't know about this because it was filed against Rip City Management not Blazer Broadcasting.
Who is running the theatrical portions of the production in the arena? Do you know who runs it usually? Are they the same people or are they simply not needed without the same production? Are they cutting down on the number of people allowed to enter due to Covid restrictions?
Looking at what they filed the docket cannot be viewed so this probably will settle and will never see court. Filed in December so this has a long way to go.
 
In response, IATSE Local 28 has filed an unfair labor practice charge with the National Labor Relations Board and has been holding protests outside of Trailblazer home games.
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Are those really the workers you want back when things return to normal? Sure, protesting anything and everything is the new Portland way, but that's generally left for the unemployable lot.
 
handiman said:
Are those really the workers you want back when things return to normal? Sure, protesting anything and everything is the new Portland way, but that's generally left for the unemployable lot.
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You're right. We want only union members who accept layoffs and never strike or demonstrate. A union should be a social center, with a bar and no complaints.
 
Hoopguru said:
Like the Masons or Elks club.....
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Yes, that's what I was thinking of. I was solicited to join one of those when I lived in California. Can't remember which. The guy practically begged me for a long time. Of course, they're starved for anyone white to join. The halls are empty and I could have been the king of their lonely bar.
 
Hoopguru said:
Like the Masons or Elks club.....
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handiman said:
Are those really the workers you want back when things return to normal? Sure, protesting anything and everything is the new Portland way, but that's generally left for the unemployable lot.
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"Shut up and be grateful, peasants!"
 
jlprk said:
Yes, that's what I was thinking of. I was solicited to join one of those when I lived in California. Can't remember which. The guy practically begged me for a long time. Of course, they're starved for anyone white to join. The halls are empty and I could have been the king of their lonely bar.
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When I lived in California my neighbor was relentless in trying to get me to join Amway....i finally told him enough
 
Rastapopoulos said:
"Shut up and be grateful, peasants!"
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Pretty much. Their jobs obviously weren't very essential or difficult if other workers could pick up the slack. There's not much job security when your work requires little training or specialization. When times are good, businesses tend to hire more people than they truly need. When times get tougher, aka 2020, the fat gets trimmed away. Protesting it just highlights one's loser mentality. Woe is me. Defending protesting it is just as bad. Woe is we.

People out protesting obviously have minimal concern about social distancing, so they have no excuse for not picking up temporary work. Amazon is hiring delivery drivers like crazy, and anyone good with organizing their time can easily make a grand a week. If you can't get by on that in the short term, you have only your lifestyle to blame.

TLDR: People need to stop being whiny little bitches.
 
I don't really get unions. I guess I understand wanting to be in one but why would you hire more expensive workers? And why does this make the Trailblazers or Rip City look bad?
 
I think all businesses have been faced with dire circumstances to survive the pandemic and loss of revenue...lot of people I know had to lay off expensive payrolls and roll up their sleeves to let family members take over the jobs for free (we babysit for that reason now with our grandchid)....caregivers and child care providers suffered alot...any entertainment venue has been crushed...they said they were cost cutting before the season started and hopefully just getting through this short season we'll be back to normal next fall...I'm trying to cut everybody some slack during the covid era...I've enjoyed even having basketball to watch as I can't go to a sports bar...I was union for OSEA...it has it's ups and downs...that said I'll enjoy my PERS...sure paid into it for decades...not sure that is sustainable or that unions attract the best talent at times. I would almost guarantee Calabro cost more than Kent..
 
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calvin natt said:
I don't really get unions. I guess I understand wanting to be in one but why would you hire more expensive workers? And why does this make the Trailblazers or Rip City look bad?
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Bingo. People can't see past their own greed. Unions were a necessity of a bygone era and have since become a net negative. People complain about Chinese goods and outsourced jobs, but don't want to acknowledge the main underlying problem: American labor is too expensive, and much of the blame there goes to unions.
 
jlprk said:
Yes, that's what I was thinking of. I was solicited to join one of those when I lived in California. Can't remember which. The guy practically begged me for a long time. Of course, they're starved for anyone white to join. The halls are empty and I could have been the king of their lonely bar.
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We have an Oddfellows in my little town, but I was considered too unusual for membership.
 
handiman said:
Bingo. People can't see past their own greed. Unions were a necessity of a bygone era and have since become a net negative. People complain about Chinese goods and outsourced jobs, but don't want to acknowledge the main underlying problem: American labor is too expensive, and much of the blame there goes to unions.
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Yes, yes, the narrative that unions were protecting substandard workers and legislation that made it easier and easier to drive them off had nothing to do with it. Please don't notice that so many U.S. jobs have barely or have not kept pace with the cost of living since the 1970s while CEO and other top corporate salaries have gone through the roof, and we've become an ever-wealthier country with an ever-larger segment of people living in poverty while we're paying people working in substandard conditions overseas essentially a slave wage to produce goods nowhere near as high quality as our union workers will turn out.
 
I’m both for raising min wage - drastically- and think unions are bad. Am I an outlier? Why unions? Why hire them? Pay everyone enough to live on. Then they won’t need as much assistance, and the money is either saved or neutralized. Improves mental health. Increases spending. I don’t buy these corporations will layoff people or go overseas and if they do we’ll survive. Fuck the idea that $7.25 has remained unchanged for this long. Pathetic. The money is there. Pay people. Disgraceful
 
If the price of housing and cost of living doesn't come down drastically even 15 bucks minimum wage won't make it easy to raise kids, pay a mortgage and start a small business. In essence that's all americans really want....to afford a house or even rent...start a family and a career without an endless uphill debt canyon to get there. 120k level houses are selling for 500k right now....that's not sustainable. Forget college tuition...that's like an expensive house
 
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