OT Bob Lazar

[BigGameDamian]

Have you guys watched this guy's show on Netflix?

You guys buy what he's selling or is he full of shit?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Have you guys watched this guy's show on Netflix?

You guys buy what he's selling or is he full of shit?

I heard his stories years ago on Art Bell. He's a hell of a story teller. Very entertaining. None of it is true.

 

[riverman]

No.

but you just bought a helicopter with a machine gun so you are tapped out when it comes to buying shit

 

[riverman]

Have you guys watched this guy's show on Netflix?

You guys buy what he's selling or is he full of shit?

I'll watch it and get back to ya....I love all that alien stuff..in the traffic light of life I give Alien life form a yellow light...occasionally flickering green

 

[Lanny]

Have you guys watched this guy's show on Netflix?

You guys buy what he's selling or is he full of shit?

He's full of shit.
There are people in every country who believe in aliens the same as there are people in every country who believe in black magic. It comes from ignorance and a deep desire to find an answer to some of life's more difficult problems.

I once worked with a little old lady who believed in aliens and flying saucers. She was incredibly ignorant about anything scientific whatsoever. She was a perfect example of the feeble minded wanting desperately to find an answer that would satisfy that hole where some technical base should have existed but by some stroke of bad luck was withheld from them in their youth.

Listen to people who have a demonstrated knowledge on technical subjects such as advanced university degrees and/or prestigious awards for scientific excellence. People who are published and have survived peer review.

 

[speeds]

Interesting guy to listen to.

 

[Chris Craig]

I heard his stories years ago on Art Bell. He's a hell of a story teller. Very entertaining. None of it is true.

What makes you think none of it is true?

 

[noknobs]

Watched him on Joe Rogan the other day and I have to say I tend to believe him for several reasons. I recommend that a lot more than that Netflix show. And that doesn't mean I believe in little green men btw.

He's full of shit.
There are people in every country who believe in aliens the same as there are people in every country who believe in black magic. It comes from ignorance and a deep desire to find an answer to some of life's more difficult problems.

I once worked with a little old lady who believed in aliens and flying saucers. She was incredibly ignorant about anything scientific whatsoever. She was a perfect example of the feeble minded wanting desperately to find an answer that would satisfy that hole where some technical base should have existed but by some stroke of bad luck was withheld from them in their youth.

Listen to people who have a demonstrated knowledge on technical subjects such as advanced university degrees and/or prestigious awards for scientific excellence. People who are published and have survived peer review.

No offense meant, but it sounds like you don't know any of the specifics about him or his story..? He's not some feeble minded old lady with no demonstrated knowledge of technical subjects or someone with a deep desire to find an answer to some of life's more difficult problems... It's effectively ruined his life and those around him and he's gained nothing from 30 years of telling his story. Many of the things he originally claimed and which were denied/dismissed have now been proven true.

Anyway, I recommend the podcast, very compelling. Just be sure to skip forward whenever Jeremy Corbell (the maker of that Netflix show) starts to talk. He's a lot less compelling.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

What makes you think none of it is true?

What's the 3 things we've been doing since we achieved space flight?

1. Launch
2. Orbit
3. Land

Launch, orbit, land. Launch, orbit, land.

That's it. That's all we do. And for the most part, we're pretty good at it.

Now it's safe to assume that is the same process of any alien species that wants to explore space.

Launch, orbit, land.

What is hard, what we have yet to figure out is travel at near or at the speed of light. That is a requirement to travel beyond our solar system. We have guesses of what it might take but no real understanding of how to create it or even use it.

The entire UFO theory is based on aliens having the technology and ability to travel to our very lonely part of space but suddenly they fuck up the easiest part of the entire deal, the orbit and land.

...

How is it that all alien technology that people have claimed to see is the same technology that was shown in movies, serials, and books like Buck Rodgers? We can't even predict what tech is going to be in use 10-20 years from now but some how scifi writers in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s, correctly predicted the technology that aliens would be using?

...

Power

The more the advance in technology the more power is required to use it. If any of that were true, there would be either a nuclear power plant at Area 51 or more power lines into the place then anywhere else on the planet. And yes, I know there are claims that all of this magical alien equipment is self powered but we would still need power to understand it, monitor it, and try to recreate it. The power lines into Area 51 are large but standard for a base that is testing top secret aircraft.

 

[riverman]

What's the 3 things we've been doing since we achieved space flight?

1. Launch
2. Orbit
3. Land

Launch, orbit, land. Launch, orbit, land.

That's it. That's all we do. And for the most part, we're pretty good at it.

Now it's safe to assume that is the same process of any alien species that wants to explore space.

Launch, orbit, land.

What is hard, what we have yet to figure out is travel at near or at the speed of light. That is a requirement to travel beyond our solar system. We have guesses of what it might take but no real understanding of how to create it or even use it.

The entire UFO theory is based on aliens having the technology and ability to travel to our very lonely part of space but suddenly they fuck up the easiest part of the entire deal, the orbit and land.

...

How is it that all alien technology that people have claimed to see is the same technology that was shown in movies, serials, and books like Buck Rodgers? We can't even predict what tech is going to be in use 10-20 years from now but some how scifi writers in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s, correctly predicted the technology that aliens would be using?

...

Power

The more the advance in technology the more power is required to use it. If any of that were true, there would be either a nuclear power plant at Area 51 or more power lines into the place then anywhere else on the planet. And yes, I know there are claims that all of this magical alien equipment is self powered but we would still need power to understand it, monitor it, and try to recreate it. The power lines into Area 51 are large but standard for a base that is testing top secret aircraft.

the one thing we humanoids always leave out of the equation is that we may not have the ability to perceive alien life with our tools or senses...could be so tiny that it's beyond our measuring ability or any number of things....my guess is that if it exists...it's been here all along...like this guy who is unlike any other lifeform on the planet..we assume since it's been here since we have lived...it's an earthling

 

[Chris Craig]

What's the 3 things we've been doing since we achieved space flight?

1. Launch
2. Orbit
3. Land

Launch, orbit, land. Launch, orbit, land.

That's it. That's all we do. And for the most part, we're pretty good at it.

Now it's safe to assume that is the same process of any alien species that wants to explore space.

Launch, orbit, land.

What is hard, what we have yet to figure out is travel at near or at the speed of light. That is a requirement to travel beyond our solar system. We have guesses of what it might take but no real understanding of how to create it or even use it.

The entire UFO theory is based on aliens having the technology and ability to travel to our very lonely part of space but suddenly they fuck up the easiest part of the entire deal, the orbit and land.

...

How is it that all alien technology that people have claimed to see is the same technology that was shown in movies, serials, and books like Buck Rodgers? We can't even predict what tech is going to be in use 10-20 years from now but some how scifi writers in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s, correctly predicted the technology that aliens would be using?

...

Power

The more the advance in technology the more power is required to use it. If any of that were true, there would be either a nuclear power plant at Area 51 or more power lines into the place then anywhere else on the planet. And yes, I know there are claims that all of this magical alien equipment is self powered but we would still need power to understand it, monitor it, and try to recreate it. The power lines into Area 51 are large but standard for a base that is testing top secret aircraft.

Good points. I remain open minded about the Alien question, though retain some skepticism. My wife watches all of the shows, Ancient Aliens etc and is watching the new Bob Lazar feature.

I find it highly probable that there is other intelligent life in this universe. The Laws of science hold this possibility to be highley likely. It is indeed harder to imagine a race or several races of Aliens with the technology to travel not only large but seemingly impossible distances across the vastness of space to Earth.

It does seem incredulous that after coming millions of light years, that Aliens would fuck up on the landing and crash. With their technology and skill how could they blunder the elementary. Perhaps, like us they are fallible. Their ships like ours can fail...they are after all machines.

What of their technology. If we have crashed saucers at area 51 or other secret bases why haven't we been able to reverse engineer them yet? Maybe we have. Or maybe your right. Or Maybe they crashed on purpose.

I watched something pretty recently also regarding Bob Lazar as well. How these Alien Space Craft are powered by gravity drives that bend space time to allow them to travel from one point to another near instantaneously. These engines are run by a newer element scientists are still trying to stabilize...element 115...Moscovium. It all seems to easy. It is not all completely understood yet. A lot of it is still theory and conjecture.

It is fun to think about. It is a possible answer even if not a likely one. I do believe area 51 is a base for building/testing top secret aircraft and technology. Whether any of it is Alien remains to be seen.

I have to ask though, what has Bob Lazar gained if he is lying. Nothing. His life is in ruins. There was another guy who claimed he worked for the government and began to unveil secrets about Aliens and ended up dying suspiciously. It is good to keep an open mind.

 

[Chris Craig]

the one thing we humanoids always leave out of the equation is that we may not have the ability to perceive alien life with our tools or senses...could be so tiny that it's beyond our measuring ability or any number of things....my guess is that if it exists...it's been here all along...like this guy who is unlike any other lifeform on the planet..we assume since it's been here since we have lived...it's an earthling
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Or they could be from other dimensions rather than from across space. Or from the future.

 

[riverman]

Then there's the distinct possibility that like Klingons...they have mastered the cloaking device....invisibility

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Good points. I remain open minded about the Alien question, though retain some skepticism. My wife watches all of the shows, Ancient Aliens etc and is watching the new Bob Lazar feature.

I find it highly probable that there is other intelligent life in this universe. The Laws of science hold this possibility to be highley likely. It is indeed harder to imagine a race or several races of Aliens with the technology to travel not only large but seemingly impossible distances across the vastness of space to Earth.

It does seem incredulous that after coming millions of light years, that Aliens would fuck up on the landing and crash. With their technology and skill how could they blunder the elementary. Perhaps, like us they are fallible. Their ships like ours can fail...they are after all machines.

What of their technology. If we have crashed saucers at area 51 or other secret bases why haven't we been able to reverse engineer them yet? Maybe we have. Or maybe your right. Or Maybe they crashed on purpose.

I watched something pretty recently also regarding Bob Lazar as well. How these Alien Space Craft are powered by gravity drives that bend space time to allow them to travel from one point to another near instantaneously. These engines are run by a newer element scientists are still trying to stabilize...element 115...Moscovium. It all seems to easy. It is not all completely understood yet. A lot of it is still theory and conjecture.

It is fun to think about. It is a possible answer even if not a likely one. I do believe area 51 is a base for building/testing top secret aircraft and technology. Whether any of it is Alien remains to be seen.

I have to ask though, what has Bob Lazar gained if he is lying. Nothing. His life is in ruins. There was another guy who claimed he worked for the government and began to unveil secrets about Aliens and ended up dying suspiciously. It is good to keep an open mind.

I completely believe there is intelligent life out there. And we have and are being observed. But there is absolutely no value or knowledge to be gained in landing here. The value and knowledge is in observation. To see if we are one of the few intelligent beings that actually evolve past the ability to destroy our own existence.

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Like I first said, I've heard Bob Lazar for over 20 years. Back when Art Bell first started his radio show. He's made a career out of his Area 51 story. Books, paid appearances at UFO conventions.

 

[Chris Craig]

I completely believe there is intelligent life out there. And we have and are being observed. But there is absolutely no value or knowledge to be gained in landing here. The value and knowledge is in observation. To see if we are one of the few intelligent beings that actually evolve past the ability to destroy our own existence.

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Like I first said, I've heard Bob Lazar for over 20 years. Back when Art Bell first started his radio show. He's made a career out of his Area 51 story. Books, paid appearances at UFO conventions.

Has he gotten rich off it?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Has he gotten rich off it?

Is being rich his goal? He's quasi-famous. He's a big figure in the circles he chooses to travel in. He has his own show on Netflix. People are talking about him.

 

[Chris Craig]

Is being rich his goal? He's quasi-famous. He's a big figure in the circles he chooses to travel in. He has his own show on Netflix. People are talking about him.

I don't know. I'd rather be rich than famous.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I don't know. I'd rather be rich than famous.

But you're operating under the assumption that if he didn't ever tell his Area 51 stories he would be rich. There is no such evidence of that.

 

[Chris Craig]

But you're operating under the assumption that if he didn't ever tell his Area 51 stories he would be rich. There is no such evidence of that.

Huh? Not what I am saying. I don't think he would be rich if he never told his stories. I was saying money would seem the best motive for lying.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I was saying money would seem the best motive for lying.

 

[riverman]

cats are aliens...their eyes are cameras and their purr is a transmitter...they are here to observe and report....otherwise they have no use for humans whatsoever...we think they like us. Once in awhile they'll give us a little scratch and transmit the blood sample results. I should be rich just knowing this

 

[riverman]

I completely believe there is intelligent life out there.

yeah but you've been hanging around HERE!

 

[Lanny]

What's the 3 things we've been doing since we achieved space flight?

1. Launch
2. Orbit
3. Land

Launch, orbit, land. Launch, orbit, land.

That's it. That's all we do. And for the most part, we're pretty good at it.

Now it's safe to assume that is the same process of any alien species that wants to explore space.

Launch, orbit, land.

What is hard, what we have yet to figure out is travel at near or at the speed of light. That is a requirement to travel beyond our solar system. We have guesses of what it might take but no real understanding of how to create it or even use it.

The entire UFO theory is based on aliens having the technology and ability to travel to our very lonely part of space but suddenly they fuck up the easiest part of the entire deal, the orbit and land.

...

How is it that all alien technology that people have claimed to see is the same technology that was shown in movies, serials, and books like Buck Rodgers? We can't even predict what tech is going to be in use 10-20 years from now but some how scifi writers in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s, correctly predicted the technology that aliens would be using?

...

Power

The more the advance in technology the more power is required to use it. If any of that were true, there would be either a nuclear power plant at Area 51 or more power lines into the place then anywhere else on the planet. And yes, I know there are claims that all of this magical alien equipment is self powered but we would still need power to understand it, monitor it, and try to recreate it. The power lines into Area 51 are large but standard for a base that is testing top secret aircraft.

Traveling at the Speed of Light:
Imagine this. It is far in the future and we have learned away to duplicate anything, even people down to the last atom. Now, we learn a way to do that with information stored on a beam of light. You beam yourself at the speed of light someplace, duplicate yourself completely and then destroy the original. Have you traveled? The new Sly wouldn't know the difference.

 

[Lanny]

What makes you think none of it is true?

Common sense.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Common sense.

Did you even watch the Netflix documenty?

 

[Natebishop3]

He's full of shit.
There are people in every country who believe in aliens the same as there are people in every country who believe in black magic. It comes from ignorance and a deep desire to find an answer to some of life's more difficult problems.

I once worked with a little old lady who believed in aliens and flying saucers. She was incredibly ignorant about anything scientific whatsoever. She was a perfect example of the feeble minded wanting desperately to find an answer that would satisfy that hole where some technical base should have existed but by some stroke of bad luck was withheld from them in their youth.

Listen to people who have a demonstrated knowledge on technical subjects such as advanced university degrees and/or prestigious awards for scientific excellence. People who are published and have survived peer review.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html

 

[Lanny]

Did you even watch the Netflix documenty?

I've seen that sort of drivel floated around for decades. I don't need to watch yet another episode of Captain Kangaroo to know that it's still a children's show.

 

[Propagandist]

Listen to this, believers:

The End of the World by Josh Clark

Podcast. Deals with the idea of extraterrestrial intelligent life and future life and stuff.

 

[Hoopguru]

He's full of shit.
There are people in every country who believe in aliens the same as there are people in every country who believe in black magic. It comes from ignorance and a deep desire to find an answer to some of life's more difficult problems.

I once worked with a little old lady who believed in aliens and flying saucers. She was incredibly ignorant about anything scientific whatsoever. She was a perfect example of the feeble minded wanting desperately to find an answer that would satisfy that hole where some technical base should have existed but by some stroke of bad luck was withheld from them in their youth.

Listen to people who have a demonstrated knowledge on technical subjects such as advanced university degrees and/or prestigious awards for scientific excellence. People who are published and have survived peer review.

The Christian author Hal Lindsey said in his book, we wrestle not against flesh and blood but principalities and wickedness in high places. According to him those UFO are demons!
And they are coming take us away, haha hehe...