Boy those draft "experts" aren't looking so hot right now

[Natebishop3]

Marcus has thrown 3 TDs (so far) and the first half is just about over.

Jameis has two interceptions (should be three). His first throw of the season was a pick six.

Marcus looks fucking amazing right now. Completely calm and in control. Doesn't look like a rookie at all. Jameis looks like a fucking scrub.

Think TB regrets that decision?

 

[Natebishop3]

Sorry, make that 4 touchdowns in the first half!

 

[Natebishop3]

First player in NFL history to throw four touchdowns in his first half of play.


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[Sinobas]

http://www.bbs.tbaybucs.com/forum/3-team-discussions/ enjoy

 

[STOMP]

http://www.bbs.tbaybucs.com/forum/3-team-discussions/ enjoy

I recommend the game thread

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[Natebishop3]

I recommend the game thread

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I feel bad for their fans, but a lot of people bought into the hype that Marcus would struggle and that he was a project.


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[BrianFromWA]

Let's be fair here...after seeing up close and personal what Lovie Smith did last year, I'm not sure that Mariota would have been able to do what he did yesterday if he was wearing the burnt orange. And Whisenhunt likely would've coached up Jameis a bit.

 

[Natebishop3]

Let's be fair here...after seeing up close and personal what Lovie Smith did last year, I'm not sure that Mariota would have been able to do what he did yesterday if he was wearing the burnt orange. And Whisenhunt likely would've coached up Jameis a bit.

Jameis played like a rookie. That's to be expected. The point, however, is that many pundits said that Winston was the more NFL-ready of the two. They specifically said that Mariota could not make NFL-throws. Even Trent Dilfer, who was one of Mariota's biggest critics before the draft, was extremely impressed with his play against Tampa.

I think any QB would struggle in a situation without a good line, without a running game, without good receivers, etc. With that said, Winston is immature off the field. He has a propensity to make unforced turnovers. Those are not new developments.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Jameis played like a rookie. That's to be expected. The point, however, is that many pundits said that Winston was the more NFL-ready of the two. They specifically said that Mariota could not make NFL-throws. Even Trent Dilfer, who was one of Mariota's biggest critics before the draft, was extremely impressed with his play against Tampa.

I think any QB would struggle in a situation without a good line, without a running game, without good receivers, etc. With that said, Winston is immature off the field. He has a propensity to make unforced turnovers. Those are not new developments.

Poor line, perhaps, but he has Doug Martin, Vincent Jackson, Austin Sefarian-Jenkins...he has decent talent at the skill positions. Winston simply made terrible decisions throughout the game.

 

[Natebishop3]

Poor line, perhaps, but he has Doug Martin, Vincent Jackson, Austin Sefarian-Jenkins...he has decent talent at the skill positions. Winston simply made terrible decisions throughout the game.

Sorry I wasn't making excuses for him. My point was more that his issues have nothing to do with the team around him. He has been prone to turnovers and bad decision making before he even got the NFL. I guess I could have written that a little better.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Sorry I wasn't making excuses for him. My point was more that his issues have nothing to do with the team around him. He has been prone to turnovers and bad decision making before he even got the NFL. I guess I could have written that a little better.

In addition, I think he's arrogant. He's bought his own hype to the point that he believes he's the best player in the stadium, and that his team can't win unless he makes amazing plays. I think he needs to figure out that he has teammates who are also pros, and that he needs to learn how to trust in their abilities.

 

[Natebishop3]

In addition, I think he's arrogant. He's bought his own hype to the point that he believes he's the best player in the stadium, and that his team can't win unless he makes amazing plays. I think he needs to figure out that he has teammates who are also pros, and that he needs to learn how to trust in their abilities.

I like to call this Manziel syndrome.

In addition, they think they can get away with things that they got away with in college, but they quickly find out that the overall talent level in the pros is significantly higher and they can't dominate the way that they did in college.

I think there was even a sobering moment for Mariota, where he ran to the corner and that corner quickly disappeared because of the overall speed of the linebackers in the NFL. I think they were in the red zone and he had been able to take off numerous times in college and run to the edge and score. He saw that it wouldn't be that simple in the pros. He's still blazing fast though.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I like to call this Manziel syndrome.

Griffin, Manziel, Winston...how did Mariota avoid the curse?

 

[Natebishop3]

Griffin, Manziel, Winston...how did Mariota avoid the curse?

Well, he isn't an arrogant prick, so that's a start.

He isn't prone to turnovers. He threw for a very very small number of interceptions while at Oregon.

He's coachable. He's intelligent. He's a hard worker. If you listen to what the Titans are saying, they're absolutely thrilled with him. Their QB coach was gushing before the Tampa game. That was BEFORE he went out and torched the Bucs.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/09/15/...nston-tampa-bay-buccaneers-week-1-2015-season

Forty-eight hours before kickoff, quarterbacks coach John McNulty was trying to put into words what he had seen during the four months since the Titans had drafted Mariota with the second overall pick. The young quarterback’s football intelligence, and his ability to quickly process schemes at the line of scrimmage, McNulty explained, was on par with any veteran he’s seen in his 13 years of coaching in the NFL.

“It’s just uncanny,” McNulty said Friday afternoon, speaking on the phone from the Titans’ headquarters in Nashville, before making the trip to Florida’s gulf coast. “The guy is … I don’t know. We’re not going to go 19-0. He’s not going to complete every pass. I get the whole thing. But he is … [long pause] … as smart a football player as I’ve been around.”

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Well, he isn't an arrogant prick, so that's a start.

It's not just A start, it's THE start. It's the basis for everything else you said about him. Humility--true, honest humility, as contrasted with the false humility athletes show the media constantly-- allows the people around you to get the best out of you, and allows you to trust them to get the best out of them.

It just constantly amazes me how differently he has developed in contrast to his contemporaries.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's not just A start, it's THE start. It's the basis for everything else you said about him. Humility--true, honest humility, as contrasted with the false humility athletes show the media constantly-- allows the people around you to get the best out of you, and allows you to trust them to get the best out of them.

It just constantly amazes me how differently he has developed in contrast to his contemporaries.

There were just so many good stories about him at Oregon. That one where he drove all the way up to Albany (I think it was Albany) to rescue a teammate with a broken down car. The guy just isn't a headcase, and I don't see that changing. He's the kind of leader that guys would follow to the gates of hell because they love the him.