Brainstorming: Starting SF for the TPE

[dviss1]

You may consider creating another board name so you can have a fresh start. Or you could simply double down on your supreme confidence in your vast knowledge of basketball and just become an insufferable bombastic cock like several other posters here.

Savage!

 

[dviss1]

Own your shit.

When enough people told me to stop with the HCP hazing because it was bringing the forum down, I acknowledged I had gone too far and apologized and stopped.
We all make mistakes and we are all human

Just Own your shit.

We just talked about this last night.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Huh? I'm specifically talking about TPE trades so I'm confused at what you mean?

Huh? I thought you couldn't use the TPE in trades.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I'll use the Atlanta example because it's the easiest to show, even though it's unlikely they'd do it.

We trade Layman, Swanigan, and a 2019 1st to Atlanta for Taurean Prince. As part of the trade (and the only reason Atlanta would do this) we use the TPE to take on Miles Plumlee's contract which has two years and $25 million left on it. Now Prince isn't an impact veteran but he would be a major boost to our rotation.

OK, got it.

 

[RR7]

I think we start harkless at the 3, but would like to grab Markieff Morris from Washington as a backup 3/4, to same them $$

 

[RR7]

Phoenix just drafted(traded for) mikal bridges. Highly unlikely, but I wouldn't mind TJ Warren, see if an offensive system change can help his shooting

 

[RR7]

Can explore justise Winslow options. Was rumored availability during the draft.

 

[lawai'a]

I think we start harkless at the 3, but would like to grab Markieff Morris from Washington as a backup 3/4, to same them $$

TPE candidate

 

[Blazer4ever]

Here's another perspective: what if our future starting SF is already with the team and his name is Anfernee Simons?
I don't think he's ready now but that's probably the plan.

 

[Natebishop3]

Aminu is a better small forward than he is a power forward.

We should be looking for a starting power forward.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Here's another perspective: what if our future starting SF is already with the team and his name is Anfernee Simons?
I don't think he's ready now but that's probably the plan.

Interesting thought. Would you be so kind as to give me an example of another player in the history of the NBA who is Simons' size who has been successful as a SF?

 

[BonesJones]

Here's another perspective: what if our future starting SF is already with the team and his name is Anfernee Simons?
I don't think he's ready now but that's probably the plan.

A 6'4 SF?

No.

 

[BonesJones]

Phoenix just drafted(traded for) mikal bridges. Highly unlikely, but I wouldn't mind TJ Warren, see if an offensive system change can help his shooting

I really don't like his game tbh. Can't shoot, doesn't pass, doesnt defend.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Some of you people replying so rudely need to get a life. You know who you are.

(I haven't even tried to figure out green font on my phone)

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I really don't like his game tbh. Can't shoot, doesn't pass, doesnt defend.

I think it’s hard to judge role players on bad teams, would he better suited as a role player on a different team? Or is he just bad?

 

[BonesJones]

I think it’s hard to judge role players on bad teams, would he better suited as a role player on a different team? Or is he just bad?

But you judge Tobias, just saying.. he's been in similarly awful situations.

IMO, there's a certain level of ineptitude that eliminates the situational ellimment and flat out shows a player as inept. If you're as bad as he is in those categories, a better team won't improve those to average.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

But you judge Tobias, just saying.. he's been in similarly awful situations.

IMO, there's a certain level of ineptitude that eliminates the situational ellimment and flat out shows a player as inept. If you're as bad as he is in those categories, a better team won't improve those to average.

Detroit and the clippers are no where close to the level of ineptitude as what Phoenix has been.
You’re probably right about warren though.

 

[BonesJones]

Detroit and the clippers are no where close to the level of ineptitude as what Phoenix has been.
You’re probably right about warren though.

Pheonix had Detroit/LAC level success T l at the very start of Warrens career. And it's not like Booker hasn't been able to shine.

I actually paid attention to Warren when he was a star at NC State. He never showed anything more to me.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Pheonix had Detroit/LAC level success T l at the very start of Warrens career. And it's not like Booker hasn't been able to shine.

I actually paid attention to Warren when he was a star at NC State. He never showed anything more to me.

Fair enough, I think Booker is the epitome of ball hog with no defense, but I think that’s just part of playing the 2 I guess.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Interesting thought. Would you be so kind as to give me an example of another player in the history of the NBA who is Simons' size who has been successful as a SF?

Adrian Dantly was 6’5” and did very well with the Jazz.

 

[BBert]

Here's another perspective: what if our future starting SF is already with the team and his name is Anfernee Simons?
I don't think he's ready now but that's probably the plan.

The problem with your thought, is that clearly
Anfernee Simons isn't small enough.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Here's another perspective: what if our future starting SF is already with the team and his name is Anfernee Simons?
I don't think he's ready now but that's probably the plan.

This should do the trick:

Simson, Simons, close enough.

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Adrian Dantly was 6’5” and did very well with the Jazz.

Perfect. Of course, he was a legit 6'5" as contrasted with Simons' fake 6'4", and he was built like a rock rather than a rail, but aside from those minor differences, that is an excellent comparison.

 

[Reep]

A 6'4 SF?

No.

How about a 6'4" SF who averaged (per 48 ) 36 pts; 4.8 reb; 3.4 asst; .649 eFG% with a PER of 29.9? And held his opponents to an eFG% of .373; 12.4 pts and a PER of 6.2??

[fun with statistics]

And what if he was already on the team???

 

[Blazer4ever]

Interesting thought. Would you be so kind as to give me an example of another player in the history of the NBA who is Simons' size who has been successful as a SF?

We were successful with a Dame/CJ/Napier lineup. Simons is bigger than Napier

 

[PtldPlatypus]

We were successful with a Dame/CJ/Napier lineup. Simons is bigger than Napier

Not on the regular though. That 3 guard lineup was situational. You implied that Simons could be the full-time starter at SF. Do you honestly believe that a starting lineup featuring Dame, CJ, and Simons--even with Zach and Nurk in the frontcourt--could be effective defensively?

I very much do not

 

[Blazer4ever]

Not on the regular though. That 3 guard lineup was situational. You implied that Simons could be the full-time starter at SF. Do you honestly believe that a starting lineup featuring Dame, CJ, and Simons--even with Zach and Nurk in the frontcourt--could be effective defensively?

I very much do not

Yes, I think it can work, many switches in the backcourt, superior rim protector in Collins and a very good defender in Nurkic.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Yes, I think it can work, many switches in the backcourt, superior rim protector in Collins and a very good defender in Nurkic.

What about lineups where all three of those guys are considerably smaller and not much quicker?

I think this would work well against three quarters of the teams out there. The bigger elite teams will eat us alive. Thinking teams like phili and gsw.

The successful teams dont have the biggest badest bigmen but they do have larger wings and guards. I think we are building ourselves out of this trend but maybe a frw years too early. I think the young bigs coming into the game will change it back to small quick guards who can pass inside soon. But maybe not soon enough for us.