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blazerboy30 said:
I'm actually curious how many first overall picks have put up 24/15 for a single game in their rookie season.
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David Robinson AVERAGED 24 & 12

Shaq AVERAGED 23 & 14

Ewing ONLY averaged 20 & 9. With those averages, though, I can't imagine he never had a 24/15 game.

In LeBron's FIRST GAME in the pros, out of high school, he recored 25 points, 9 assists, 6 rebounds, and 4 steals and shot 60% from the floor

Of course, Oden missed an entire year of basketball and is more raw talent than those do. I'm not saying that Greg should be playing that well now. We don't need him to play that well and all I really want out of him is a double double and a couple blocks and I'll be happy. I was just responding to your question.
 
kingspeed... something we have in common on this board.....


always being attacked by other posters which means we are different from the pack which bothers most
 
MARIS61 said:
Yeah, that didn't work out so well for you, this time anyway.

I only post it, and the score, because they are usually an indicator of how that person AND THE PLAYERS OUT THERE WITH HIM performed as a group. Because what you want froma PG is for him to get the entire team playing well.

Obviously, as has been pointed out many times, if you're out there with Frye and Diogu your +/- might be much different than if you're out there with Joel and LaMarcus. Since he plays mostly with Roy, Bayless's should improve considerably. If you have a great +/- consistently with scrubs, you're probably the real deal, because you are raising the level of their play.
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Bayless was the only + guy off the bench.
 
MIXUM said:
kingspeed... something we have in common on this board.....


always being attacked by other posters which means we are different from the pack which bothers most
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please post after we beat the cavs
 
MARIS61 said:
Obviously, as has been pointed out many times, if you're out there with Frye and Diogu your +/- might be much different than if you're out there with Joel and LaMarcus. Since he plays mostly with Roy, Bayless's should improve considerably. If you have a great +/- consistently with scrubs, you're probably the real deal, because you are raising the level of their play.
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first quarter - sergio 6 minutes with roy. bayless 3 minutes with roy.
second quarter - sergio 5 minutes with roy. bayless 4 minutes with roy.
third quarter - sergio 6 minutes with roy. bayless 4 minutes with roy.
fourth quarter - sergio 9 minutes with roy. bayless 0 minutes with roy.

tonight's game - sergio 26 minutes with roy. bayless 11 minutes with roy.
 
MIXUM said:
kingspeed... something we have in common on this board.....


always being attacked by other posters which means we are different from the pack which bothers most
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For different reasons. You are always negative, but Eric just has wide sweeping mood swings. He at least has positive threads. You only focus on the negative. That's who you are. That's who you've always been. You're Debbie Downer.
 
MIXUM said:
kingspeed... something we have in common on this board.....

always being attacked by other posters which means we are different from the pack which bothers most
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At least Eric roots for the Blazers to win, while you root for them to lose so they can just trade, trade, trade. I'd take Eric any day of the week.
 
MAS RipCity said:
Really?
From the stands, he looked very subpar and yes I saw his stats.
He jacked up way too many 3's, dribbles the hell out of the ball too often, and got checked numerous times.
He is pretty much useless unless there is a fast break scenario, which we rarely do.
Its like trying to stick a trapezoid into a circle, just not working.
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I thought Sergio had a good game for him, for the most part, which happens once every three games it seems.
He was talking to Greg a lot and seemed to be looking for him in the paint off the pick and roll. He even just forced it in at times, just knowing Greg was bigger than everyone else and would have a good chance of snagging it.

Sergio did all right tonight, but still needs to at least be a threat to make a jumper or two to keep the defense honest.
 
its so sad that most dont realize this team needs a trade....but they will.....they will.... very soon
 
MIXUM said:
its so sad that most dont realize this team needs a trade....but they will.....they will.... very soon
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Did you not say we were guaranteed to lose today?
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
haha..watch the replay on the Charlie V flop-down in slow-mo....Greg just looked at him and said WTF?

haha
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Yeah that was pretty hilarious. Love how G.O. loves to man up and just play ball without the flopping. I give Villanueva's flop a Fail, very bad acting.
 
KingSpeed said:
David Robinson AVERAGED 24 & 12
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Yes, he did. And, he was 24 years old before he played his 1st NBA game. Let's see how Greg is doing four seasons from now.

KingSpeed said:
Shaq AVERAGED 23 & 14
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Comparable age to Greg, but three years college experience and no microfracture surgery.

KingSpeed said:
Ewing ONLY averaged 20 & 9. With those averages, though, I can't imagine he never had a 24/15 game.
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23-year old rookie with four seasons of college ball and no microfracture.

Those guys are all 1st ballot Hall of Famers. I wonder if Oden is putting up numbers like Robinson, or even Ewing, at a comparable age, if people will finally cut him some slack. What do you think? 20 and 9 three years from now, or 24 and 12 four years from now. Will that be enough, or will people still be "disappointed" in his performance and will we still have to endure the Trade Oden Now!!! threads after every game?

BNM
 
I don't need him to ever average 24/12. I'd be happy with career averages of 15/15/3. That'd be awesome. I'd also rather him average less and be a winner than average more and be losers like Robinson (loser before Duncan) and Ewing. All I want from him THIS year is to be ACTIVE. If he's active and gets 9 & 6, I can deal with growing pains, but when he only grabs 4 rebounds in 31 minutes over two games and looks depressed out there and let's himself get pushed around, then I can't stand it.
 
KingSpeed said:
David Robinson AVERAGED 24 & 12

Shaq AVERAGED 23 & 14

Ewing ONLY averaged 20 & 9. With those averages, though, I can't imagine he never had a 24/15 game.

In LeBron's FIRST GAME in the pros, out of high school, he recored 25 points, 9 assists, 6 rebounds, and 4 steals and shot 60% from the floor

Of course, Oden missed an entire year of basketball and is more raw talent than those do. I'm not saying that Greg should be playing that well now. We don't need him to play that well and all I really want out of him is a double double and a couple blocks and I'll be happy. I was just responding to your question.
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I think you missed the point of my question / curiosity...

I wasn't asking IF another first overall pick had put up 24/15. I know many have.

I was responding to MIXUM claiming:
this is what a first round 1st overall pick is SUPPOSED TO DO
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Unless you can show me that the majority of #1 overall picks have put up 24/15 in their rookie season, then the idea that #1 overall picks are "SUPPOSED TO DO" this is ridiculous.

If, on the other hand, the players you mention are the only ones who put up 24/15 for a game in their rookie season (they aren't the only ones) then what Oden did was very impressive, and nobody can claim this is what he is "SUPPOSED TO DO".
 
I don't like to admit it, but there was a fair amount of home cooking. I get annoyed when other teams get unwarranted calls on their home court, I wish we could have won without it. We probably would have won anyway, but it would have been a very close game.
 
I thought Sergio had a pretty good game, better in the second half than the first. He did what he was supposed to do, he fed the big men. I thougth Bayless played ok while he was in too, he did what he was supposed to do, which is bring energy and attack the rim.

The thing I would point out is, without Steve Blake, the Blazers have gone what, 3 and 2 so far? A lot of folks said we would miss him, but so far, I really don't. In fact, I would have to say I am happeier, because when Sergio and Bayless are taking the minutes, I have noticed the Blazers are taking a lot less 3 pointers, which IMO is a good thing.
 
hasoos said:
I thought Sergio had a pretty good game, better in the second half than the first. He did what he was supposed to do, he fed the big men. I thougth Bayless played ok while he was in too, he did what he was supposed to do, which is bring energy and attack the rim.

The thing I would point out is, without Steve Blake, the Blazers have gone what, 3 and 2 so far? A lot of folks said we would miss him, but so far, I really don't. In fact, I would have to say I am happeier, because when Sergio and Bayless are taking the minutes, I have noticed the Blazers are taking a lot less 3 pointers, which IMO is a good thing.
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3/2 against bad teams...
 
Its such a relief to watch a player constantly get to the FT line like Jerryd. He got there 6 times in 14 minutes. The kid is special. I would like to start him... he is averaging like 15, 3 and 2 over the last 3 games in about 24mpg... Take some pressure off of Roy having to get to the rim so much in the 1st quarter, maybe save his body and some energy for later inthe game.
 
MrJayremmie said:
Its such a relief to watch a player constantly get to the FT line like Jerryd. He got there 6 times in 14 minutes. The kid is special. I would like to start him... he is averaging like 15, 3 and 2 over the last 3 games in about 24mpg... Take some pressure off of Roy having to get to the rim so much in the 1st quarter, maybe save his body and some energy for later inthe game.
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So, have Roy come off the bench? :dunno:
 
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