Bush acknowledges total disaster that Iraq has become, sends more troops

[Schaddy]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">President Bush said Wednesday he will send 21,500 additional U.S. troops to Iraq to quell its near-anarchy and for the first time acknowledged he had erred by failing to order a military buildup last year. "Where mistakes have been made, the responsibility rests with me," Bush said.</div>

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/pr...110124909990001

I'm not even going to bother being rational about this anymore. I hope that Bush dies a quick and horrible death, the same as his troops and my friends hope to avoid every single day overseas, and that he burns in Hell for the sacrifices he has made in the name of pride and greed.

 

[Mamba]

fucking moron. I've tried to understand his reasoning, but over 20,000 more troops? **** Bush.

 

[Really Lost One]

Yep. Our future generation will be loaded with all sorts of taxes.

 

[Shapecity]

What happened to diplomacy?

3000 dead bodies isn't enough carnage for Bush? Let's send another 20,000 troops? Sending another 20,000 isn't even close to the necessary forced needed to occupy the area.

 

[Chutney]

Only he could admit that he's wasted lives because of his stupidity and, at the same time, send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq. It's amazing what he's gotten away with.

 

[Smitty]

His solution is to put more people's lives in danger out there? He's a dickhead.

 

[Shapecity]

There's even worse news today, the new Defense Secretary said the US is committed to sending over 92,000 US Troops into Iraq within the next 5 years.

 

[Mamba]

**** that. 92,000 troops sent to Iraq over 5 years, I'll be dead before the people of this country let this happen.

 

[Schaddy]

92k is just completely insane. There's no other way to say it. I cannot believe that this is happening.

 

[Hunter]

It is not 92,000 troops being sent to Iraq. Gates was saying he is going to increase the size of the military by 92,000 (Army and Marines) in order to cycle some of the troops that have been stationed there for large periods of time.

Don't be fooled, the troop increase is still just 21,500 (five brigades).

 

[Shapecity]

How do they plan to pay for this? They estimated the war has already cost the US $400 Billion.

 

[Bobcats]

Funny how 450 billion can be spent on a war, yet we got people still starving on the streets.

 

[Schaddy]

<div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Funny how 450 billion can be spent on a war, yet we got people still starving on the streets.</div>

Yes. This is one of the absolute roots of our problem. Guys, America may be America, but it's still got a ton of problems. And for the better part of a decade under Bush, those problems have been completely ignored in favor of seeking out those damn terrerists and really putting a halt to the turmoil in the Middle East....wait, we didn't do that, either...what? We made things worse? Oh...

 

[Shapecity]

<div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yes. This is one of the absolute roots of our problem. Guys, America may be America, but it's still got a ton of problems. And for the better part of a decade under Bush, those problems have been completely ignored in favor of seeking out those damn terrerists and really putting a halt to the turmoil in the Middle East....wait, we didn't do that, either...what? We made things worse? Oh...</div>

"We must stay the course..." - The Village Idiot

 

[norespect]

History has shown us over and over that occupations never work. He is showing that he is super stubborn. Others say that this is actually his exit strategy, because the Iraqi government has promised to crack down on the malitia....and if they don't (which many people speculate), the U.S. now has a reason to leave = "We bring in more troops, and Iraq dosen't keep up their end of the deal, so we're out". The popular opinion is that the President of Iraq dosen't have the means or the will to stop the malitias.

 

[norespect]

<div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Funny how 450 billion can be spent on a war, yet we got people still starving on the streets.</div>

The U.S. economy has deep roots in the Military and War in general. You can rationalize it the way you are, but alot of jobs/capital/income are generated by the massive U.S. military machine. Plus, alot of Bush's boys have massive military contracts for missles, planes etc....i'm sure he is making some good kickbacks for that.

We saw this all in Vietnam. Still holds true today.

 

[Shapecity]

<div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The U.S. economy has deep roots in the Military and War in general. You can rationalize it the way you are, but alot of jobs/capital/income are generated by the massive U.S. military machine. Plus, alot of Bush's boys have massive military contracts for missles, planes etc....i'm sure he is making some good kickbacks for that.

We saw this all in Vietnam. Still holds true today.</div>

If they invested the same $450 Billion on other projects it would create jobs/capital/income in those respective sectors. You bet your ass he's getting kickbacks from this.

I know Haliburton has made a fortune off this war. There was a story that came out after Haliburton was first audited. They failed to come up with $1Billion (I forget the specific figure, but it was in the neighborhood of $1Billion) worth of receipts. How does one lose $1Billion worth of receipts?

It's just craziness.

EDIT: Found the article Whistleblowers, auditors describe Halliburton's rip-off of US taxpayers

 

[Skiptomylue11]

<div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">History has shown us over and over that occupations never work.</div>
The Roman Empire occupied areas outside their natural domain (like Africa, Israel, etc, fairly successful for centuries), the Persian empire occupied a large area (including outside its natural boundaries) for a couple of centuries (I think), more recently, how about the British occupation of South Africa, Hong Kong, India (seemed fairly successful), the Russian occupation of half of Europe and a lot of Asia, Muslims occupied Persia (Iran), African countries, Pakistan, Israel, etc. China seems to occupy Tibet fairly easily.

 

[Legacy]

This is crazy. Fucking Bush is on crack.

 

[Apollo]

Worst. President. Ever.

 

[norespect]

<div class="quote_poster">Omarion Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Roman Empire occupied areas outside their natural domain (like Africa, Israel, etc, fairly successful for centuries), the Persian empire occupied a large area (including outside its natural boundaries) for a couple of centuries (I think), more recently, how about the British occupation of South Africa, Hong Kong, India (seemed fairly successful), the Russian occupation of half of Europe and a lot of Asia, Muslims occupied Persia (Iran), African countries, Pakistan, Israel, etc. China seems to occupy Tibet fairly easily.</div>

Good point. But you can throw out the Roman Empire because that was sheer numbers. Russia did occupy alot of Europe but look at Russia now....do you want to trade todays USA for todays Russia. You can't spend 450 billion dollars in a disaster then say....lets send more troops. I think it would take alot more sack to get out of there. The only problem is that the US has stirred up so much crap, that they are painted into a corner. Can't look weak by leaving, but in the meantime, looking weak by not winning this war.