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Spotrac appears to list that Camara will be eligible for an extension in a few months.

Does anyone know if that's correct?
What's the most he is eligible to be extended for?

His contract is only about $2 million per season for the next two yeats until summer of 2027. However it says he will be an UFA that summer.

Makes sense for Camara to lock up some dollars and for the Blazers to lock him up so he doesn't potentially walk for nothing.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Spotrac appears to list that Camara will be eligible for an extension in a few months.

Does anyone know if that's correct?
What's the most he is eligible to be extended for?

His contract is only about $2 million per season for the next two yeats until summer of 2027. However it says he will be an UFA that summer.

Makes sense for Camara to lock up some dollars and for the Blazers to lock him up so he doesn't potentially walk for nothing.
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yes, he's eligible according to the new CBA

the 'estimates' of his max deal are 4 years and 83-89M. IIRC, the rule is his base salary can be 140% of his previous salary, or 140% of the NBA average salary. The average salary this season is 11.9M. Since the extension would happen in the next off-season, at minimum the average salary would jump to at least 110% of the current; that would be 13.1M. So, a base salary of 18.3M. That starts his total at 73.3M before six step raises. Now, I'm not sure if he'd be eligible for the 8% step raises or not. I've seen people say it would be 5% step raises. If it's 5% that would be an additional 9.2M added to 73.3M; at 8% it would be an additional 14.7M.

now, that 10% bump in average salary matches the estimated 10% bump in the salary cap. But it's entirely possible that the average salary might increase by significantly more than the salary cap as high salary contracts around the league kick in. In 2023-24, the average salary was 9.7M; a year later it's 11.9M. That's a 22.7% increase. A 20% increase from 11.9M is 14.3M; and 140% of that would be 19.9M

but if you assume 22M/year, that's likely a good ballpark number. That seems a little high for a defensive specialist, but it wouldn't be high for a very versatile top-10 defender who is also a 3&D player and a good rebounder for a wing

obviously, if Camara waits till after his 3rd season, his total contract could be over 100M. But, if he signs an extension this summer, his optional 4th season at 2M is discarded and he'd make 18-20M one year sooner, while getting that total guarantee and not risking injury
 
Who will get a bigger extension this summer, Camara or Sharpe?

Which one would be the hardest to replace if we could only keep one player?

Which one has the greatest trade value?

While the chances that Camara becomes a star are slim, does Sharpe still have star potential?

Do the Blazers overpay for that potential?

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SlyPokerDog said:
Who will get a bigger extension this summer, Camara or Sharpe?

Which one would be the hardest to replace if we could only keep one player?

Which one has the greatest trade value?

While the chances that Camara becomes a star are slim, does Sharpe still have star potential?

Do the Blazers overpay for that potential?

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difficult choice because Camara is 3 years older and had a 4 year, 125 game college career; and he doesn't have Simons standing in his way. Hopefully it's not an either/or situation
 
wizenheimer said:
difficult choice because Camara is 3 years older and had a 4 year, 125 game college career; and he doesn't have Simons standing in his way. Hopefully it's not an either/or situation
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So in your opinion, who gets the bigger extension this offseason?

I think Sharpe will because of age and upside, but Camara has earned it.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So in your opinion, who gets the bigger extension this offseason?

I think Sharpe will because of age and upside, but Camara has earned it.
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Camara...maybe; because I'm skeptical the Blazers will give Sharpe a big extension with the team for sale.

just to flesh that out a little:

Camara at 22M/year for 4 years

while Sharpe could get a 5 year deal with 10 step raises. If he's signed for a 35M base salary, 10 step raises at 8% would total 28M. That would push Sharpe's total contract to 203M and his annual salary to 40.6M. I have a hard time seeing the Blazers saddling a new owner with a contract like that
 
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wizenheimer said:
Camara...maybe; because I'm skeptical the Blazers will give Sharpe a big extension with the team for sale.
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I think Cronin will act with Sharpe like Olshey did with CJ.

First big draft pick as a new GM.

They can not have that pick be seen as anything but wildly successful.

Giving that pick near max money will validate their selection for them.

Won't consider trading them.
 
Those are my 2 favorite Blazers now, I hope they both get extensions and become the core of a perennial playoff team.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Who will get a bigger extension this summer, Camara or Sharpe?

Which one would be the hardest to replace if we could only keep one player?

Which one has the greatest trade value?

While the chances that Camara becomes a star are slim, does Sharpe still have star potential?

Do the Blazers overpay for that potential?

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That’s a lot of questions, but I think they both are owed similar contracts, but I’d say Shaedon probably has edge in trade value. Both equally hard to replace on demand. They’re both studs
 
Camara will get the bigger extension
 
Sheldon Shape said:
Sharpe will get more.
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If you ask Danny marang he says people around the league don't think he'll get a big contract.

But he's the same knob who thought the team would win 21 games, so....
 
Camara seems worth more to me, he's an archetype that all contenders can use even if his offense doesn't improve if his offense improves he can be a top3 player on a contender.

Sharpe seems to have more upside but I'm not even sure he's will be a starter.

Also Sharpe can become a RFA but we don't really have that luxury with Camara. I wouldn't want to have to bid for him in UFA.
 
Camara is worth more, easily. Plenty of players can score like shae. Every team has one, at least. But a truly singular defender that can also score? not so many
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I think Cronin will act with Sharpe like Olshey did with CJ.

First big draft pick as a new GM.

They can not have that pick be seen as anything but wildly successful.

Giving that pick near max money will validate their selection for them.

Won't consider trading them.
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GMs do this all the time. I don't think of the CJ extension... I'm thinking more the Meyers Leonard extension. Or Andre Barganini on Toronto. Yes a GM will give their young player an extension to justify the prior decision to pick them.

I'm hoping with the team for sale and Cronin in a guaranteed deal that's not a dynamic here.
 
RR7 said:
We could turn down his final season of his contract and make him a RFA in '26
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Oh really? I didn't see that - if so I'd tend to think we should go that route. Unless we think we're going to add a starter with that cap room in 2026 which I highly doubt.
 
I don't always consider it bidding against yourself by extending a player early. Sometimes it's about keeping a player happy/keeping goodwill with them versus making them "find an offer" that you'll then match.

My main concern with allowing both to go to RFA in '26 is there's supposed to be a decent amount of teams with cap space. Puts us in to a potential situation where we have to match a bigger deal than we would prefer to keep our guys.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Oh really? I didn't see that - if so I'd tend to think we should go that route. Unless we think we're going to add a starter with that cap room in 2026 which I highly doubt.
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The nice thing is he would have a tiny cap hold, so holding off on extending him to be able to use cap space in whatever fashion, and then offering him a deal could work out favorably.
 
Chris Craig said:
Camara will get the bigger extension
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Camara is limited to about $90m extension max, there is no way Sharpe's representation takes this deal - so that seems very unreasonable to me.

My guess is that if extensions are offered, Camara is offered the max the team can afford to give him - and the Blazers will not antagonize Sharpe's representation by offering a much smaller extension than the max he can get - so they will offer him more.
 
Cap gurus on this site have explained timing, dollars, years, current contracts, league $$$ expectations … it’s a lot. Arguments have been made on when to make those extensions to potentially maximize free agent cap space after next season. About not bidding against oneself as well. About who if any of the Grant + EC’s to keep and/or re-up.

In a simplistic way, I’d like Camara’s extension to get taken care of so that he’s got next year’s money, then ditch the next year salary to start his dollars on what could be in the ballpark of 4 and $88M. [I’m also a fan of the declining dollars for guys to get more up front.]. Including growth to his O, Camara is a safe bet to earn that contract. If he wants to wait, that’s one thing.

Toumani and Deni and Clingan as long-term dudes is the place to start.

It’s hard to reason through paying previous starters to stick around and be paid more than the next generation.
 
B-Roy said:
https://www.standaard.be/sport/zaal...overtuigen-voor-lions-te-spelen/74488570.html

Apparently there is a 4 year 105million extension on the table for Toumani. That makes sense. The blazers will decline his 4th year to make him RFA now and extend. If they did not waive the 4th year, he would go directly to UFA after the 4th year.
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I thought the most Blazers could offer was 4/90 and that would start after next season, did they do something different to change that?
 
Blazinaway said:
I thought the most Blazers could offer was 4/90 and that would start after next season, did they do something different to change that?
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article says 89m euros and maybe that was lost in translation
 
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B-Roy said:
article says 89m euros and maybe that was lost in translation
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89 mil U.S. dollars is close to 105 mil Euros, so since its a Dutch site I am guessing they quotes
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article says 89m euros and maybe that was lost in translation
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That's my guess as its been discussed that max Extension allowed this summer is 4/89 mil U.S. dollars. Its a great value for Blazers and does get Camara a higher salary a year earlier if he signs this summer and it's guaranteed money. Be interesting if he takes it now or waits for when he can get more. All these Achilles injuries to star players does have to make players think hard about that security if they extend when they can
 
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