Canada's Loud Mouth

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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">MISSISSAUGA, Ontario ? Clad in matching nylon workout pants and jacket, looking like he might be preparing to coach a game later that afternoon, the seventh-greatest Canadian of all time makes his way up through the stands at the Hershey Centre in the western Toronto suburb of Mississauga.</div>

watch the embedded clips for more perspective

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/sto...ht&lid=tab6pos1

 

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<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">watch the embedded clips for more perspective

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/sto...ht&lid=tab6pos1</div>

? Are you for him or against him? Personally, I think he sometimes is on the ball with what he says be he is always an idiot

 

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The guy's a douchebag.

 

[Chutney]

I think the guy can be right once in a while, but I don't like the way he gets to those right conclusions (eg: There's that study that came out a couple months ago, saying that European players aren't always ready to join North American junior teams at a young age. It supposedly vindicated Cherry. But, whereas the study pointed to factors like homesickness and inability to adjust to cultural differences, Cherry was saying the same thing because of his bigoted belief that European players are inferior to North Americans.).

I personally hate the man and I'm embarrassed that he gets so much attention and has so much credibility in Canada. They should just move him to sportsnet and get all the morons who cater to the "traditional" Canadians on one channel.

 

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i think there is a great tacit clash between two absolutes- traditionalist and modern. modern canada dovetails itself around trudeau's legacy of multiculturalism and more broadly neo-liberalism- the belief the market with some intervention is the cure to all of our ills. then there are those staunch conservatives- cherry is their loudest mouthpiece today,who happen to reject all things trudeau.

 

[Chutney]

No doubt. There was that rant against Russians, where he mentioned multiculturalism. And on that stupid little segment on the Fan, he's always getting on "liberal judges."

On the topic of that clash you mentioned, I get the feeling that the conservatives lose more influence by day. It's more of an opinion than anything, but people tend to believe that the "traditionalists" have the majority opinion simply because they're disproportionately represented in the media. IMO, they're a dying breed.

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No doubt. There was that rant against Russians, where he mentioned multiculturalism. And on that stupid little segment on the Fan, he's always getting on "liberal judges."

On the topic of that clash you mentioned, I get the feeling that the conservatives lose more influence by day. It's more of an opinion than anything, but people tend to believe that the "traditionalists" have the majority opinion simply because they're disproportionately represented in the media. IMO, they're a dying breed.</div>

yeah well that clash is easily seen when one juxtaposes urban and rural canada ; there are also regional clashes-particularly the west and quebec as it relates to the rest of canada. however, the west has witnessed a dramatic face lift with their boom in the last decade, i can even see a time where they vote liberal instead of conservative, specifically calgary

 

[Schaddy]

Oh come on guys, where would we be without his sizable contributions to pop culture and his amazing propensity to shove his foot down his throat?

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh come on guys, where would we be without his sizable contributions to pop culture and his amazing propensity to shove his foot down his throat?

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wow u know about him? i thought hockey night in canada and don cherry were exclusive property of canada. fyi- he loves americans and their hockey players, sometimes i feel he routs for the americans over us.

 

[Schaddy]

<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">wow u know about him? i thought hockey night in canada and don cherry were exclusive property of canada. fyi- he loves americans and their hockey players, sometimes i feel he routs for the americans over us.</div>

Oh yeah; you guys forget that I'm one of those damn Americans that doesn't really like many of the trappings of our conutry. I love hockey, so I've seen more than my share of Don's trademark outbursts and bizarre behavior.

It's always nice to know you guys are up there as a fallback plan in case I things get really messed up down here. If anything, I'd say Wisconsin people are relatively similar to most Canadians I know; I mean, I'm only about 3 inches away from you on most maps

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">

It's always nice to know you guys are up there as a fallback plan in case I things get really messed up down here. If anything, I'd say Wisconsin people are relatively similar to most Canadians</div>

except the war thing. btw- is the state of cheese a republican or democratic stronghold?

 

[Schaddy]

<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">except the war thing. btw- is the state of cheese a republican or democratic stronghold?</div>

Little of both, actually. Madison and Milwaukee are very democratic, but like many states, the farther you go out in the country, the more republican it gets

I think the majority of Americans are against the war now, or at least critical of how its being handled. Unfortunately, the U.S has a lot of dumb bastards in it, and they make all of us look bad. Believe me, Madison is about as democratic/liberal a place as you'll ever find (it's almost too much sometimes), so I take solice in the fact that even though there's a lot of morons out there, we do things pretty well around here

The whole midwest is like Wisconsin; larger cities are very progressive, but the small towns and rural areas aren't. Oh well...

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Little of both, actually. Madison and Milwaukee are very democratic, but like many states, the farther you go out in the country, the more republican it gets

I think the majority of Americans are against the war now, or at least critical of how its being handled. Unfortunately, the U.S has a lot of dumb bastards in it, and they make all of us look bad. Believe me, Madison is about as democratic/liberal a place as you'll ever find (it's almost too much sometimes), so I take solice in the fact that even though there's a lot of morons out there, we do things pretty well around here

The whole midwest is like Wisconsin; larger cities are very progressive, but the small towns and rural areas aren't. Oh well...</div>

yeah the rural/urban divide is something we discussed in relation to canada, it actually might be more pronounced in canada cause most of canada in terms of geography is still rural.

so the midwest is progressive? how about my favourite state, missouri?

 

[Schaddy]

<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">yeah the rural/urban divide is something we discussed in relation to canada, it actually might be more pronounced in canada cause most of canada in terms of geography is still rural.

so the midwest is progressive? how about my favourite state, missouri?</div>

Well, I'm by no means a political expert here, so don't take this as the word of the Lord

As far as I know, Mizzou leans to the right, but there are certainly exceptions to that rule (St Louis, again, like most bigger cities, is very democratic; it was said that the black, democratic vote in St Louis won Dem. Senator-elect Claire McCaskill the election in that state, so kudos goes to them!)

Missouri also has a long and bloody history of political strife. That state and Kansas were unbelievably violent and lawless from the early to mid 19th century, with the debate over slavery being the central issue. It appears that most of the bad blood over that time period has eroded, but I'm sure a Missourian would have much more to say about that aspect of the state's history.

Back to the midwest in general, overall things are really divided within each state. Minnesota and Wisconsin are famed for the progressiveness of the larger cities (but Minnesota still sucks

), and Illinois and Michigan have, at least from what I've seen, become increasingly democratic. It's really only the South that is predominantly Republican; the East Coast (at least up north) is very Democratic. Other than that, most states have a lot of division in their politics. Really, there aren't all that many states that always lean one direction or the other.

But again, I'm no expert, so if you really have questions about American politics I'd ask someone older and/or smarter than me; I'm sure there's lots of them out there

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Little of both, actually. Madison and Milwaukee are very democratic, but like many states, the farther you go out in the country, the more republican it gets

I think the majority of Americans are against the war now, or at least critical of how its being handled. Unfortunately, the U.S has a lot of dumb bastards in it, and they make all of us look bad. Believe me, Madison is about as democratic/liberal a place as you'll ever find (it's almost too much sometimes), so I take solice in the fact that even though there's a lot of morons out there, we do things pretty well around here

The whole midwest is like Wisconsin; larger cities are very progressive, but the small towns and rural areas aren't. Oh well...</div>

Washington is the same way. Western Washington and more specifically the Seattle area is very strongly Democrat, whereas Eastern Washington is very rural and a much different culture so they lean strongly Republican. Luckily though, there are far more people in the Seattle area than Eastern so the Democrats usually have big wins.

 

[Schaddy]

^ I've only spent about a month of my life combined in the Seattle area, but if there is any other metropolitan city in the country I'd rather live in than Madison, that'd be it. Great diversity as far as entertainment, food, people, everything. And it's a beautiful state.

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^ I've only spent about a month of my life combined in the Seattle area, but if there is any other metropolitan city in the country I'd rather live in than Madison, that'd be it. Great diversity as far as entertainment, food, people, everything. And it's a beautiful state.</div>

and a stone's throw away from canada

 

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Seattle really is a cool area. Washington as a whole is as diverse as you can get, you have the pacific coast, cascade mountains, snow in the winter, hot summers, lots of green, big city life, suburban life, country life. If you can deal with the rain in the colder months it's not a bad place to live.