Carter wants to play for the Knicks

[Avery]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Raptors guard Vince Carter wants to be traded to an Eastern Conference team, and he'd prefer to be playing for the Knicks. A league source told the Toronto Globe & Mail that Carter would only return to the Raptors as a last resort. "He wants out and he needs to go," said the source. "He is very, very firm on that. He needs to go. They're supposed to be working on something right now. It might have to involve a third team, or they may have to acquire someone and pass him through." Knicks president Isiah Thomas is reportedly interested in making a deal and would "give up anyone on his roster outside Stephon [Marbury]."</div>

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[jbbCourtVision]

I love these unnamed sources coming out of the woodwork. Unless Starbury is part of a deal that sends Vince to NY, don't hold your breath on this idiotic demand of Vince's or his unnamed source.

 

[Ma3oxuct]

Yeh, these Yahoo! Sports people are talking Yahoo stuff.

 

[jbbCourtVision]

^I couldn't have said it better myself.

The only player worth trading in NY is Starbury. After that, your pickings are mighty slim.

 

[B.e.]

Yeah,who would the Raps want besides Starbury?Kurt Thomas,Allan Houston?I dont see any trade going down between these teams.

 

[deception]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Philla Fan 22:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah,who would the Raps want besides Starbury?Kurt Thomas,Allan Houston?I dont see any trade going down between these teams.</div>

yeah i don't know why people assume babcock is a moron, who really thinks the raps would trade away vince for mutumbo, shandon anderson and josh howard?

 

[Knicks Analyst]

Well the whole idea is that we are going to get a third team involved. My guess is that Atlanta will be in on this.

 

[rapsfan15]

I would trade Vince for Allan Houston and Tim Thomas, nothing less

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting rapsfan15:</div><div class="quote_post">I would trade Vince for Allan Houston and Tim Thomas, nothing less</div>
That will never happen. If it did I would be the happiest man alive. Houston's career will never be the same and Whiny Tim just plain sucks.

 

[RiverspoonJones]

Carter can't get to New York without Zeke parting with Marbury, which also won't happen.

If a third team gets involved, they'd be giving players to Toronto that are better they are receiving from New York... so why would they (e.g. Dallas) want to get involved, when they're getting poop like Tim Thomas and Shandon Anderson?

 

[og15]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">Well the whole idea is that we are going to get a third team involved. My guess is that Atlanta will be in on this.</div>
Atlanta still has nothing to offer that will make Toronto want to part with him, Jason Terry? Al Harrington?
We know ATL isn't giving up both unless they get a superstarish player too.

 

[RiverspoonJones]

A three-way deal would look like this:

Toronto sends Carter to New York
New York sends Tim Thomas (for instance) to 3rd team
3rd team sends ?? to Toronto

Toronto is going to want a superstar or hot young prospect from the 3rd team. But which 3rd team would participate in the deal when all they're getting away is Tim Thomas? They might as well go for Vince themselves...

It will never happen.

 

[BigfnJoe96]

If vince want's to come here, Zeke will find a way to make-it happen. People keep sayin TT suxs. TT is good player who causes match-up problems cause of his size. What makes him unattractive is his contract, not his game. Man, I would love to see Vince here. It's gonna be hard to make happen, but not impossibe.

 

[mike18946]

Players always reportly state they want to play for New York but when was the last time a good free-agent ever signed there? Or infact when has a trade ever happened where a player wanted to play in New York? Stephon Marbury is the only guy that comes to mind.

The New York media love to hype up the Knicks and act like every player in the NBA Love the Knicks when in truth thats never the case.

Vince is not going to New York, the Knicks don't even have any good trade value part from Marbury, who NY will refuse to part with. You also need to factor in the Raptors would lose alot of big time cash on trading their ticket guy. Unless they can get a high marketable player back, Vince Carter will NEVER get traded. Not only would the Raptors but worse off, the Raptors management would lose money.

 

[Smoke]

Just curious

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">Well the whole idea is that we are going to get a third team involved. My guess is that Atlanta will be in on this.</div>
who do you possibly think atlanta would give up.

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Quickness:</div><div class="quote_post">who do you possibly think atlanta would give up.</div>
I read about a possible sign and trade in the trade of Jason Terry and some bench players.

 

[ADubb20]

If VC went to New York, there's no question that we need to get at least Marbury back.

 

[RiverspoonJones]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BigfnJoe96:</div><div class="quote_post">If vince want's to come here, Zeke will find a way to make-it happen. People keep sayin TT suxs. TT is good player who causes match-up problems cause of his size. What makes him unattractive is his contract, not his game. Man, I would love to see Vince here. It's gonna be hard to make happen, but not impossibe.</div>

If Isiah Thomas can't get Jamal Crawford, he's not going to be able to get Vince Carter.

And yeah, Tim Thomas is a fine player, but no 3rd team is going to send Toronto a player (say Ray Allen, Allen Iverson) when all they're getting is Tim Thomas. They might as well deal with Toronto straight up.

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting RiverspoonJones:</div><div class="quote_post">If Isiah Thomas can't get Jamal Crawford, he's not going to be able to get Vince Carter.
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Don't you think that Isiah may pursue Carter a little bit more than Crawford? Thought so.

 

[RiverspoonJones]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't you think that Isiah may pursue Carter a little bit more than Crawford? Thought so.</div>

That's fine... but there's a difference between saying "I really, really, really, really want Vince Carter" and making a reasonable deal, which there isn't.

If you can suggest one, I'm open-minded, I'll take it on board... but I just don't think the Knicks have anything of value other than Stephon Marbury.

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting RiverspoonJones:</div><div class="quote_post">That's fine... but there's a difference between saying "I really, really, really, really want Vince Carter" and making a reasonable deal, which there isn't.

If you can suggest one, I'm open-minded, I'll take it on board... but I just don't think the Knicks have anything of value other than Stephon Marbury.</div>
I respect your opinion. There really isn't much to offer. The Knicks are betting that Toronto is desperate to get Vince off their hands.

 

[jbbPrimetime]

I heard Antoine Walkers name being thrown into the mix...

Thursday's Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported that the Raptors were talking to the Dallas Mavericks and that the Knicks or the Golden State Warriors also could be involved.

According to the report, the Mavericks were looking to send Antoine Walker to New York and the Knicks would send a combination of players to the Raptors, with Shandon Anderson, Dikembe Mutombo and Kurt Thomas being mentioned. Golden State also was mentioned as a possible participant, with Erick Dampier as the main component.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1839883

... lets see what Isiah can do...

 

[RiverspoonJones]

If Zeke can bring Vince Carter and Antoine Walker to New York without given Stephon Marbury he will be made Times Man of the Year, nay, Times Man of the Millenium.

...but it won't happen

 

[og15]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">I read about a possible sign and trade in the trade of Jason Terry and some bench players.</div>
....and Toronto would do this why?

I don't get why the media, and people also just don't understand that Toronto isn't trading Carter for an almost All-Star and some bench players, or anyone like Antoine Walker, Jerry Stackhouse, and especially not any of those Knicks players that aren't Marbury.

 

[BigfnJoe96]

I have a feeling the Knicks will acquire Jamal Crawford, then ship him to Toronto for Vicanity. I also would think, Tim Thomas may be included in such a deal. My gut says Zeke is trying to do what he can to get Vincanity here.

 

[thedude9990]

wow again with this (i havent been here in a while) this was written by who? o yea a unnamed source which means nothing!!!!!

 

[crankitup621]

This deal is not going to happen. Every time the knicks want a good player either they can't afford his salary or they have no players to give.

 

[norespect]

If the money made sense,(which it don't), and i couldn't get starbury, I'd take a younger, non washed up Allan Houston, with Tim Thomas, and a younger super health Kurt Thomas

 

[Eclipse]

We definately wouldn't want Tim Thomas over here...he's one of the most overpaid players in the league. Unless the Knicks are willing to trade Marbury, my feeling is that the trade ain't gonna happen. Giving the Knicks another star in VC teamed with Starbury will make them too strong.

Trading someone is one thing but you don't want to make a conference rival into a team you won't be able to beat.

 

[jjtheknick]

vince is a great player but listen hes not bulit for a season he always gets hurt and thats the last thing the knicks need is more injurys. the knicks should trun away from carter